Quick Answers / 'Newbie' Questions

[Supr49er]

Welcome to the Forums iamsevenup.

 

[vhhawk]

Why is it that, late in the game, after I've built the Three Gorges Dam, I still have the coal plant, hydro plant, and nuclear plant options in the cities on my continent? The 3GD provides power already - do these other plants add further power?

Edit - I'm playing regular Civ4, no expansion packs, I think with the 1.82 (?) patch.

 

[CCRunner]

No extra power. After you have at least one source of power, everything else is redundant.

 

[vhhawk]

Thanks, CCR.

 

[PieceOfMind]

Why is it that, late in the game, after I've built the Three Gorges Dam, I still have the coal plant, hydro plant, and nuclear plant options in the cities on my continent? The 3GD provides power already - do these other plants add further power?

Edit - I'm playing regular Civ4, no expansion packs, I think with the 1.82 (?) patch.

As CCR said, redundant in the fullest sense of the word. If you were to lose the city with the 3GD those extra buildings would kick in and provide power instead.

As far as I know, the preference for power in any city is:

3GD > Hydro Plant > Nuclear Plant > Coal Plant

Note that coal plants and nuclear plants do not give their penalties when they are nor being used, so no risk of meltdown and no green faces.

 

[GooglyBoogly]

One of the Civs has an UB coal plant that increases production (BTS only)- you will get this bonus even if your city is powered by some other means. So it is not always redundant.

I'm playing regular Civ4

Never mind then.

 

[henrebotha]

What is the difference between "route to" and "build a road"? I feel like the later one has no effect really but the "route to" actually put a road on a map. When I set my workers automatically connect resources, they always walk around and build those "invisible roads". Why?

Like CCRunner said, they're just hard to see sometimes. (For prettiness's sake, roads aren't always dead center in a tile - sometimes they sort of skirt around it or whatever.) Both "build road" and "route to" build the exact same kind of road. Remember, you can always point the mouse at a tile and look at the info box on the left-hand side of the screen to see whether or not it has a road built on it.

 

[InigoMontoya]

I'm going for a sort of "decimate-all-opponents" method this game, but one of my cities has already gotten legendary culture, a second is well on the way and a third is starting to develop. Is there any way to turn off culture victory?

 

[CCRunner]

Not now that you've started the game. Before you begin, you can choose "custom game" and disable as you please but now your screwed.

Once you win though, you can choose to keep playing and then decimate to your hearts content.

 

[dodgerphreak]

Where can I find interface mods that work with Civ 4 vanilla w/ patch 1.74?

 

[Dresden]

@InigoMontoya: Well, you can sorta disable victory conditions by messing with their requirements in the XML files; this assumes that the game is not being played with the "Locked Modified Assets" option on.

What you would do is copy the file <Program Directory>\Assets\XML\GameInfo\CIV4VictoryInfo.xml to <My Games Directory>\CustomAssets\XML\GameInfo and then edit the copied file in notepad or another text editor. You can then change the conditions on the cultural victory to make it more difficult; for example changing from 3 needed cities to 10.

It's cheesy but it works. Just remember to delete the file from CustomAssets once the game is over so it doesn't apply the next time...

 

[Lord Parkin]

Where can I find interface mods that work with Civ 4 vanilla w/ patch 1.74?

Have a look around the Creation and Customization forum. Most files are marked with whether they are for BTS or normal Civ4, so you should be able to find something to your liking there.

 

[dodgerphreak]

Have a look around the Creation and Customization forum. Most files are marked with whether they are for BTS or normal Civ4, so you should be able to find something to your liking there.

I have looked around but I haven't found anything that says it is a different interface. Is there something i am missing or do I just need to look harder?

 

[Lord Parkin]

I have looked around but I haven't found anything that says it is a different interface. Is there something i am missing or do I just need to look harder?

I haven't ever used an interface mod myself, so I can't point you in a specific direction I'm afraid. Hopefully someone else will be able to give you some more direct links though.

 

[emark182]

If i download the latest patch for Civ4 and also install the warlords expansion pack, will everything work right? and can i then download the latest patch for warlords?

 

[ori]

just install civ4 then install warlords then patch to 1.74 then patch to 2.13 and all should be fine
Welcome to CFC

 

[emark182]

just install civ4 then install warlords then patch to 1.74 then patch to 2.13 and all should be fine
Welcome to CFC

Thanks dude, I keep reading all of these problems that people are having with installing the patches in the comments are these fixed do you know? And if I havent used any previous patches I will still be fine with installing the newest one right?

And do you know any mods that are the best for adding more civilizations and leaders?

 

[ori]

there are generally two sources of problems:
1) patching an unpatched Civ4 ("Vanilla") directly from 1.00 to 1.74 fails in some cases - the way to go is 1.61 then 1.74 - or install Civ4 then Warlords (which installs the 1.61 patch during install) then install 1.74
2) Vista.




to be more precise: Vista requires any program that needs admin rights to be granted admin rights expressly - just using an admin account is a no go. In some versions of Vista (I suspect the 64bit version - but don't know) the install and the patches do weird stuff if you do not run all installers with admin rights (right click on the application and chose run as administrator).

Apart from this no major problems should occur during installation - assuming your machine meets or better exceeds the minimum specifications for this game

 

[emark182]

there are generally two sources of problems:
1) patching an unpatched Civ4 ("Vanilla") directly from 1.00 to 1.74 fails in some cases - the way to go is 1.61 then 1.74 - or install Civ4 then Warlords (which installs the 1.61 patch during install) then install 1.74
2) Vista.




to be more precise: Vista requires any program that needs admin rights to be granted admin rights expressly - just using an admin account is a no go. In some versions of Vista (I suspect the 64bit version - but don't know) the install and the patches do weird stuff if you do not run all installers with admin rights (right click on the application and chose run as administrator).

Apart from this no major problems should occur during installation - assuming your machine meets or better exceeds the minimum specifications for this game

I have CivIV installed on my computer already. So I should be good as far as the Vista problem goes right? I have been playing it for a few days now. I am just thinking about picking one of the expansion packs up after work today.

 

[ori]

you should be fine however it is still a good idea to run any new installers with admin rights - and don't bother with warlords - buy Beyond the Sword