R&L01 - Monarch Space Race

Avatar is a Borg cube. I'm a long time Star Trek fan and my last name isn't too far removed from "Borg".

Yep, that's a picture of me. I was at work when I saw others where having trouble uploading .jpgs and thought I would test it out. If the picture is unsettling or frightening small children I'll remove it. :) It's a shot of me doing some fishing on Lake Michigan. On the other side of the camera my wife, father and two of three children were sea-sick. :vomit:
 
Mistfit said:
Your personal info shows you are from Ohio but in the Pic you are plastered with Illinois gear. Not proud of the Buckeye state?

:) @Misfit, I don't mind the questions one bit.

I grew up in Illinois on the Mississippi river and got my BS and MS from UofI. I was in Chicago that weekend so all the Illini gear came out. Besides, that shirt is synthetic and great for wet/clammy weather. I'm still a huge Cubs, Illini, Bears fan (don't care for Bulls as I'm not a fan of the NBA) and despite living in Cinci since 1989 have not been able to develop and attachment to either the Reds or the Bengals and certainly not Ohio State!

BTW, I'm going to the Cubs vs. Reds game tonight (and Sunday) and will be decked out in blue.

Am I up?
 
I'm not available tonight and am headed out of town for the weekend so please grab it and run.
 
Roster, (Roster is Full) -
RowAndLive
Detlef Richter - just played
jb1964 - SKIP
Misfit - UP
DJMGator13 - On Deck
rrau - ? skip ? (check when it comes up)

We never did have the discussion on SGLs, and I don't remember what I ended up doing, but I think they're turned off. We'll just have to see.
 
RowAndLive said:
Roster, (Roster is Full) -
RowAndLive
Detlef Richter - just played
jb1964 - SKIP
Misfit - UP
DJMGator13 - On Deck
rrau - ? skip ? (check when it comes up)

We never did have the discussion on SGLs, and I don't remember what I ended up doing, but I think they're turned off. We'll just have to see.

@ R&L: Acutally, I already played this round after Detlef Richter and before Misfit, so after DJMGator, we should be back to you :)
 
PreTurn:
Everything looks good. I'm not so sure about the colossus being built this early but hey we'll give it a try.

IBT:
Zzzz...

Turn 1 (2150BC)
Ann roads mined BG
I decide to settle in place, This does not look like a huge land mass and without food bonusses I doubt either of these cities will get to size 21. Sharing 3 tiles should make little difference IMO. Create P'yongyang start on warrior in 5.
Al heads N thru the marsh.
Sea Dragon keep exploring around the little island.
Flying Wing NE
vWarrior by the barbs goes to the Mountain for better defense.

IBT
Zzzz....

Turn 2 (2110BC)
Sea Dragon Searches
Flying wing move to a small inlet to try to find someone...no luck
Al Heads Further North
Remane our Vet Warroir Bob Fortify Him on the mountain to heal

IBT
Zzzz...

Turn 3 (2070BC)
Bob Heals and attacks 2hp Tartar Barb Kills him Flawlessly no promo.
Sea Dragon Heads to get in place to make the jump back to the bigger land mass
Al Heading N towards the barb camp and goodie hut.
Flying wing is seeing lots of cows and tobacco on the other land mass
Turn Science up to 80% drops Writing from 22 turns to 19
Bump Entertainment to 20% To keep Seoul happy net loss -1gpt

IBT
Zzzz...

Turn 4 (2030BC)
Ann heads NW to BG
Sea Dragon makes the jump back :fingers/crossed/smilie:
Al sees 5 Conscript Khosian Barb warriors in the North - training time :D
Flying wing continues exploration.
Bob Kills another Tatar warrior no promo

IBT
:( the Sea Dragon was lost in the Sea

Turn 5 (1990BC)
Ann roads the BG
Al Kills his first barb flawlessly and goes Vet
Flying wing notices coast to the south will go back to investigate
Bob still killing still no promo

IBT
P'yongyang finishes warrior (Dan) and begins worker

Turn 6 (1950BC)
Dan the Shrubber heads to Seoul for MP
Al Kills again no promo
Flying wing into position to looks for new lands.
Bob disperses the Tartar camp and loots it for 25 gold.
The people Admire my Barbwhacking abilities and put in a lawn at the cave for us.

IBT
Zzzz....

Turn 7 (1910BC)
Bob heads south
Dan towards seoul
Al another Kill -1hp
Flying wind sees a blue border and a goodie hut. This land may be attached to our land mass

IBT
Zzzz...

Turn 8 (1970BC)
Flying wing spots a Reg Sumarian Endiku Warrior in a town called Sumer
Meet Gilgamesh Trade our Alphabet and 145 gold for Ceremonial Burial and Masonry. They show 3 cities and are hooked up to 1 silk. 10 gold in the bank.
Al Kills another barb now -2 hp will need rest.
Ann begins mine
Dan gets to the Suburbs of Seoul
Bob heads S and sees the end of our land mass

IBT
Zzzz...

Turn 9 (1930BC)
Dan Reaches Seoul and the city grows to size 5
Colossus done in 15
Bob heads back towards the homelands.
Al gets fortified for healing
Flying wing scouts along Sumer lands.

IBT
Gil asks us to leave his lands. OK.

Turn 10 (1790BC)
Flying wing scouts
Bob Heads NE
Al needs to heal 1 more turn.

Hand Down Report:
Seoul @ size 5 Growth in 4 Colossus due in 14
P'yongyang @ size 1 Growth in 1 Worker due in 1
Worker needs to connect our two cities, start Rax and chop forest?
I'd pump almost exclusively Units out of P'yong - We will need to boot someone off of our island. My guess is that sumer is on our land.

Map:
Korean_Mini.jpg
 
Very nice job so far team! Sorry for my confusion on the roster before now.
I'm glad to see we found Sumeria. Maybe we can block them into a small portion of the landmass and do a few tech trades before :hammer:.

Roster -
RowAndLive - On Deck
Detlef Richter
rrau
jb1964
Misfit - just played
DJMGator13 - UP
 
I don't think the Colossus will trigger our GA. It meets the expansionist and religous requirements while Korea is Scientific and Commercial. I was worried when I suggested building it that it might kick in our GA too early.

I should be able to play & post tomorrow. So post any thoughts for me to look at.
 
I'd use Flying wing to map out our landmass before moving on to the others. I know it won't be with in your turns but once the Colossus finishes Seoul will prolly be pretty close to size 7 so we will need another settler out of it asap. I suggest the spot 1 tile Northeast of the oasis to pull in the fish, sugarcane, and the wine upon expansion. This will also be of good use for blocking the Sumarians from the Mtns.

None of the Area to the north of the Mtns will be settle'able until a bunch of worker turns are completed. I would almost wait and allow the sumarians to settle the area and take it by force.
 
Mistfit have you been a bad boy again? :) I don't see the save file.

That's OK the Gators just got beat and I probably would have declare war on the first civ I saw.
 
There's an ideal tile for blocking the Sumerians.
 
Preturn 1790BC
no changes

Turn 1 - 1750BC
Pyong worker (Bee) => warrior
Bee E to BG / AL attacks N to Bcamp (vic down 2hp no promo) gain 25 gold / Flying Wing SW S / Bob N

Turn 2 - 1725BC
Bob N / Bee mines / AL N to BH and we get a SETTLER [dance] / settler S to gain silk and Cow / Flying Wind S S

Turn 3 - 1700BC
settler founds Wonsan set to worker
Flying Wing SE E / Al heals / Bob N

Turn 4 - 1675BC
Seoul grows to size 6 (grow in 5 Cloossus in 8)
Bob N / Ann N to BG / Flying Wing S SE / Al S

Turn 5 - 1650BC
Al heals / Flying Wing S E / Ann mines / Bob N spies a Bcamp
Sci to 70% WRIT still in 4 at +1gpt

IBT - SUM learn MYST

Turn 6 - 1625BC
Pyong warrior (Chris) => settler (may need to change, re-evaluate when city grows to size 2 - may complete too fast)
Chris E / Flying Wing SE S / Al W / Bob NE

IBT - 2 barbs appear SE SE of Ann

Turn 7 - 1600BC
wake Dan (warrior in Seoul) move E / Chris NE / Bob sees that there are 4 warriors in Bcamp so he moves E / Flying Wing SE S / Al W
lux to 30% (since I moved Dan) / sci to 60% still in 2

IBT - 2 barbs move NW (now 1 tile SE of Ann) / 3 barbs SE towards Bob

Turn 8 - 1575BC
Dan NE to Ann / Chris NE E NE / Bee roads / Bob SE to Mt / Flying Wing SW W / Al SE

IBT - 2 barbs attack Dan (we win both down 2hp and promos) / 3 barbs move E now N of Bob

Turn 9 - 1550BC
learn WRIT set to CoL
Chris SW W N to Seoul / Bob forts / Flying Wing N N / Al S / Dan SW

IBT Bgalley appears near Flying Wing

Turn 10 - 1525BC
Flying Wing N N / Al S finds a barb on the chokepoint with SUM / Dan W to Seoul / Chris forts in Seoul
Lux down to 20% / sci up to 80% - CoL in 16 vrs 22 at -1gpt

Notes to next player
1) Colossus completes next turn we need to make a couple of settlers from there to bring the pop back down
2) Flying Wing has a Bgalley trailing it, which should catch it on the IBT
3) Check the settler in Pyong after it grows next turn - corruption may keep it on schedule with growth to size 3 if not it will complete 5 turns early so we should change to something else
4) I have not traded WRIT because I was hoping to meet more people first, but that depends on whether Flying Wing survives

1525BC save

Our new city & world view
RL01_01.jpg
 
Why CoL instead of philo? Doesn't philo give a free tech?
 
@R&L - if we can manage it (usually do-able at this level), most times you can research CoL 1st then research Philo and then take the expensive republic as the bonus. However, you are running a risk one of the AI's will beat you to phil. I usually don't trade writing as if you pop a hut and can get a tech, it tends to give philosophy. Therefore I'm stingy with trading writing in C3C. (Speaking from experience: once i traded writing 3 turns before learning philo and then 2 turns later the civ I traded it to was the only one who knew Philo and got the free tech :mad: )
 
Thank you for the explanation, which I will chalk up to learning something new every day.

Got it.
 
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