Random Rants ΠΑ: That's a paddlin'

Status
Not open for further replies.
“This idea of purity and you're never compromised and you're always politically woke, and all that stuff, you should get over that quickly,” Obama said. “The world is messy. There are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws. People who you are fighting may love their kids, and share certain things with you.”
“One danger I see among young people, particularly on college campuses,” he continued, “I do get a sense sometimes now among certain young people -- and this is accelerated by social media – there is this sense sometimes of the way of me making change is to be as judgmental as possible about other people, and that’s enough. Like, if I tweet or hashtag about how you didn’t do something right or use the wrong verb, then I can feel pretty good about myself, ‘cause man, did you see how woke I was? I called you out.'
“That’s not activism. That’s not bringing about change. If all you’re doing is casting stones, you’re probably not going to get that far. That’s easy to do.”
Click to expand...
By ex-president Obama the other day in Chicago.
Most of the major news organizations didn't report it. I wonder why.
Trump coverage
 
rah said:
By ex-president Obama the other day in Chicago.
Most of the major news organizations didn't report it. I wonder why.
Trump coverage
Click to expand...

The latest rant from Jonathan Pie is about a baker who received complaints for tweeting that a heavily iced bun "would probably give him diabetes".
My wife and I still can't work out who would be triggered by that. <shrug>

Warning: contains extremely crude language.
 
Last edited:
Ferocitus said:
Sorry, but you are misinformed on several points. You need to read the details of the case more closely, however that is very difficult given how most media outlets report these controversial and appalling cases.

It wasn't one judge taking advantage of it to be permissive. There were a panel of judges.

Furthermore, the judges were surprised that the prosecutors changed the charge at the last minute to sexual assault from the initial accusation of sexual abuse.
They said they could not see the reasons for the more serious assault offence in the prosecution's arguments.

It is quite possible that the prosecution decided to opt for the lesser charge instead of trying to get sentences of an extra few years for assault instead of abuse.

The accused were convicted and jailed for the lesser crime of sexual abuse and sentenced to between 10 and 12 years in prison.
A conviction for sexual assault would have carried prison sentences of between 15 and 20 years.

Of course, the law should be refined to include lack of consent due to heavy intoxication as rape, but courts don't make laws - that's a job for politicians.
Click to expand...

Oh, the law is only half the law. The other half is what the judges make of it. Especially here in Spain. The ease with which violence and terrorism can be manufactured where none could be found is astounding.

I do not mean to say that the law does not need changing, which it evidently does, but also that there is a pervasive misogyny across a judiciary that keeps on erring on the side of these sexual predators.
 
Last edited:
JohannaK said:
Oh, the law is only half the law. The other half is what the judges make of it. Especially here in Spain. The ease with which violence and terrorism can be manufactured where none could be found is astounding.

I do not mean to say that the law does not need changing, which it evidently does, but also that there is a pervasive misogyny across a judiciary that keeps on erring on the side of these sexual predators.
Click to expand...

It's not just the judiciary who have a misogynistic streak, but police and the prosecutors, the church, some health care workers, and many other segments of society.
The case has one upside, and that is that the public are now well aware of what is happening and how the system and law needs changing.

But the judges in this particular case did not err in their finding. It was the prosecutors who chose to pursue the lesser offense, so they are to blame for the perceived injustice.

OTOH, if the prosecution had persisted with the sexual assault offense, the penalty could have ended up being the same as what they got for sexual abuse (i.e. 10 to 12 years imprisonment.)

The reason for why that could be, is that the sexual abuse was clearly at the higher end of the scale for that type of offense.
If they were older men and the victim was younger, the penalty would have been closer to the maximum of 15 years. (Ignoring mitigating factors like prior convictions, prospects for rehabilitation etc.)

If they were sentenced for sexual assault then the judges might have seen it as aggravated, but not as close to the worst assault and therefore they would not have received as close to the maximum of 20 years. IOW, they would have received about the same period of imprisonment, IMO (and my ex-barrister wife has said she agrees.)

As for terrorist legal shenanigans, Spain is not an outlier in that respect. A few years ago in England, various terrorist provisions were put in place, and the public were assured by the politicians at the time that those laws wouldn't be abused.

A couple of years ago, a council in England used the provisions to fine people for leaving wheelie bins out on the street for a few days, instead of removing them the day after garbage collection day, claiming that terrorists could plant bombs in them, and hence the rate-payers were in contravention of terrorist provisions!
I don't know how it ended legally, but you can always count on some jerks to misuse terrorist and other legislation.
 
Last edited:
The length os the conviction is not the point, acknowledging the gravity of the act is. Justice is as much the one thing as it is the other.
 
JohannaK said:
The length os the conviction is not the point, acknowledging the gravity of the act is. Justice is as much the one thing as it is the other.
Click to expand...

Of course, and those responsible deserve to be called out for it. In this case it was the perpetrators and the prosecution, not the judges.
In other cases, it was some other judges, invariably male, and they are most definitely part of the appalling problem.
The public should feel appalled, angry and willing to oust from power and control those who deserve it, when they deserve it. Un-nuanced attacks on those who don't deserve it is just the behaviour of pitchfork wielding thugs.
 
Ferocitus said:
Warning: contains extremely crude language.
Click to expand...

I can't help to agree with the guy ! We need "anti - PC" movement or humanity is lost !!!
 
Speaking of non Politically Correct comedy I wonder how many of You know Foamy the Squirrel aka. Master of Rants :D
Here's one of his less "offending" videos ;)

 
Synsensa said:
You prefer Macs? Gross.
Click to expand...
I prefer Atari Falcons.
Atari_Falcon30_System_1.jpg
 
The_J said:
I had exactly one conversation on this one dating site. She deleted her account overnight :(.
Click to expand...

Don't blame yourself friend ! It was her choice, she didn't deserved you , justify it all You want but do not mop about it, deal with it , move on , let it make You stronger, not weaker. That is my advice ;)
 
The_J said:
I had exactly one conversation on this one dating site. She deleted her account overnight :(.
Click to expand...
She wasn't worth the conversation then was she?

Don't sweat it, there are plenty of women who would find an interesting scientist as someone who they would like to get to know.
 
Rant: I can't do anything right. :sad:
 
aimeeandbeatles said:
Rant: I can't do anything right. :sad:
Click to expand...

Aimee You didn't got that post right ! ... oh wait ... what I mean is You do everything exactly right and I :love: love You for it . I think You're great !
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Broken_Erika
Random Rants 94 I rant at the thread title and shake my fist menacingly.
47 48 49
Replies
976
Views
61K
Gori the Grey
Gori the Grey
Birdjaguar
Being a Tourist in Italy
12 13 14
Replies
261
Views
7K
Birdjaguar
Birdjaguar
Takhisis
  • Locked
Random Rants noventa y tres: The Incredible Hulk will not be presented this evening.
49 50 51
Replies
1K
Views
53K
sophie
sophie
W
Casual talk
Replies
2
Views
229
Birdjaguar
Birdjaguar
Samson
  • Poll Poll
Internet privacy, security, age restrictions, VPNs and backups
3 4 5
Replies
97
Views
3K
banzay13
banzay13
Back
Top Bottom