hotrod0823
Deity
With LK56 over and my leaving LK58 for computer reasons I am up for RBC4!
Hotrod
Hotrod
RBCiv Conquests SG Discussion Thread
- Thread starter Charis
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Kylearan
compound eye
Ah damn, I hate different time zones. 
This game sounds very interesting with these variant rules. With RBC3 soon to be over, I would have liked to play this one. But it seems I've slept too long... Ah no problem, I'll just lurk then.
-Kylearan
This game sounds very interesting with these variant rules. With RBC3 soon to be over, I would have liked to play this one. But it seems I've slept too long... Ah no problem, I'll just lurk then.-Kylearan
Charis
Realms Beyond
I'm glad to see the solid response to the Mesoamerica game. In fact we've got seven interested - Charis, Speaker, Rubberjello, Ridgelake, Grimjack, Hotrod and Kylearan. While this game could absorb one extra, we're now at the two game mark, so I have a few thoughts:
i) Parallel game "Marauding Mayans", also as the Mayans but going for domination. (No 5CC obviously but domination is the only other active victory condition)
ii) Parallel game "Merciful Mayans", still 5CC, but going for 2K cultural single city win with no sacrifice allowed. If my OCC test is any indicator, it's rather likely you would have to wipe out one or more opposing capitals to avoid losing!
iii) Two parallel games, same rules as here (5CC going for 7K cultural win) - one as Aztecs and one as Incans. Each one has the advantage of a single 'front', but the disadvantage of needing to conduct war quite a bit farther from home in order to get enough enslaved workers to sacrifice for that tribe's city.
So... are there 3+ more people who want to play a variant Mesoamerican game? If so please responsd with your interest, and both existing signups and any new people should mention if one of the above multi-game scenarios sounds good?
Charis
i) Parallel game "Marauding Mayans", also as the Mayans but going for domination. (No 5CC obviously but domination is the only other active victory condition)
ii) Parallel game "Merciful Mayans", still 5CC, but going for 2K cultural single city win with no sacrifice allowed. If my OCC test is any indicator, it's rather likely you would have to wipe out one or more opposing capitals to avoid losing!
iii) Two parallel games, same rules as here (5CC going for 7K cultural win) - one as Aztecs and one as Incans. Each one has the advantage of a single 'front', but the disadvantage of needing to conduct war quite a bit farther from home in order to get enough enslaved workers to sacrifice for that tribe's city.
So... are there 3+ more people who want to play a variant Mesoamerican game? If so please responsd with your interest, and both existing signups and any new people should mention if one of the above multi-game scenarios sounds good?
Charis
Rubberjello
Emperor
I would vote for the 2 parallel games (Incans/Aztecs). Or the domination one would be fine also. I don't care which team I end up on.
T-hawk
Transcend
Count me in, although my copy of Conquests ($14.99 from Amazon) isn't scheduled to get here till right around Christmas. I'd most prefer a domination game and least prefer a single-city victory.
As for upping the difficulty of an easy scenario, how about playing on Sid?
As for upping the difficulty of an easy scenario, how about playing on Sid?
Kylearan
compound eye
I vote for option iii) - this approach had been very interesting and provided a lot of insights with the Rise of Rome scenario, so I'd like to see this again here.
I would also play the domination game if necessary, but the single-city victory game only reluctantly.
I don't care either which team I'm on - the two civs look similar enough.
-Kylearan
I would also play the domination game if necessary, but the single-city victory game only reluctantly.
I don't care either which team I'm on - the two civs look similar enough.
-Kylearan
Kylearan
compound eye
Oh, and one more thing: I would prefer not playing on Sid. Playing RBC3 and lurking the other Conquests games taught me that the scenarios differ so much from normal games that Deity is enough for a challenge, for me at least.
Charis
Realms Beyond
Sounds good - I like the idea of playing each of the civs with different teams, and with only 3 on this scenario, that's easily done!
We'll go with option iii- three teams then, each 5CC going for a 7K Cultural win, and each of the five cities needing at least 1000 culture. That's going to mean lots of fighting and capturing units rather than cities. One game will be on Sid so we'll see if that makes much difference in a scenario. (It will more so than on the Mesopotamia or Rome scenarios in any case)
A - Mayans (Deity): Charis, Grimjack, Kylearan, Dwip
B - Incans (Deity): Hotrod, Rubberjello, Ridgelake
C - Aztecs(Sid) : Speaker, T-Hawk so far
B and C need one more, or even two. If needed A can add one more as well. Game time limit is 175 turns with first player taking 15 and all other turns going 10, so this should be a light snack scenario. (Even with only three players you would get five player turns)
The Sid squad got Aztecs rather than Incans because the Jaggies move of 2 may help more than move 1 with all-terrain-as-roads due to the retreat ability. I've played the first Mayans turn already.
I'll see if any more sign-up (solid experienced players only for C, plz), then I'll start the A-thread with the Mayans. The two C guys be a little delayed on their first turn, but that's fine. If any changes are needed to what's listed above, let me know!
Charis
We'll go with option iii- three teams then, each 5CC going for a 7K Cultural win, and each of the five cities needing at least 1000 culture. That's going to mean lots of fighting and capturing units rather than cities. One game will be on Sid so we'll see if that makes much difference in a scenario. (It will more so than on the Mesopotamia or Rome scenarios in any case)
A - Mayans (Deity): Charis, Grimjack, Kylearan, Dwip
B - Incans (Deity): Hotrod, Rubberjello, Ridgelake
C - Aztecs(Sid) : Speaker, T-Hawk so far
B and C need one more, or even two. If needed A can add one more as well. Game time limit is 175 turns with first player taking 15 and all other turns going 10, so this should be a light snack scenario. (Even with only three players you would get five player turns)
The Sid squad got Aztecs rather than Incans because the Jaggies move of 2 may help more than move 1 with all-terrain-as-roads due to the retreat ability. I've played the first Mayans turn already.
I'll see if any more sign-up (solid experienced players only for C, plz), then I'll start the A-thread with the Mayans. The two C guys be a little delayed on their first turn, but that's fine. If any changes are needed to what's listed above, let me know!
Charis
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Charis,
I'll go for one of the Deity teams, just as long as I can be towards the end of the rotation. And they'll take me.
Bugs
I'll go for one of the Deity teams, just as long as I can be towards the end of the rotation. And they'll take me.
Bugs
Coffee
Cdn Expat
I'd love to try Sid. But I've promised myself a break so good luck with this series.
edited..
Well it won't start until Xmas. My advisor says thats ok and I'd really like to try. Perhaps you could put me at the end of the lineup. Thanx.
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Well it won't start until Xmas. My advisor says thats ok and I'd really like to try. Perhaps you could put me at the end of the lineup. Thanx.
Justus II
General Staff
If it's not too late for one of the Diety teams, I'd like to join in too. I was going to wait for the Fall of Rome teams, but this sounds interesting with the options.
gormdragan
King
I am interested to try game B.
T-hawk
Transcend
For the Sid game, do we need to play a 5CC variant? Sounds like it'd be tough enough even without variant restrictions...
hotrod0823
Deity
Bring on the sacrificial lambs. 
Does any one no if sacrificing hurts or helps happiness??
Anyway, is this a go. Team B is ready to Roll !!???
Does any one no if sacrificing hurts or helps happiness??
Anyway, is this a go. Team B is ready to Roll !!???
Charis
Realms Beyond
Sacrificing doesn't affect happiness, but the Sacrificial Altar itself is a negative happiness improvement, turning a happy into unhappy - in fact a city must have a temple before building an altar.
Status update:
A - Mayans (Deity): Charis, Grimjack, Kylearan, Dwip, Justus
B - Incans (Deity): Hotrod, Rubberjello, Sir Bugsy, Gormdragon
C - Aztecs(Sid) : Ridgelake, T-Hawk, Speaker, Coffee
@Bugs, Coffee, Justus, Gormdragan, welcome aboard
@T-Hawk: Welcome to C3C
I'm not clear on how hard you want it - first you asked to pump difficulty to Sid, then say it's probably hard enough without restrictions. I'll leave that up to you to decide, as either way your game will make an interesting comparison. In every other 'scenario' the difficulty has been only a tiny factor, as the civs get the same starting units no matter what, so the diff only affects the cost reduction. If Mesoamerica is no different, 'Sid' will translate to no more than Emperor-plus if not restricted. Now if unlike the others the starting units did depend on difficulty, then yes, it would be hard enough even without restrictions. If it were me I would go with 5CC/Sid to match the others, and we'll get to compare what difference difficulty makes. But if you want to go further out, drop the 5CC and go for domination -- whichever you guys prefer is ok, this is a "loose" series than an Epic game. I tentatively moved Ridgelake over to C because: i) your team is short, ii) he's qualified, and iii) he didn't object to Sid level ;p
I'll post the thread and A game now. 'B'/Hotrod, you guys are ready to roll, so start it yourself - Deity level, normal aggression, and there are no other options to tweak. (Well, try to interject the word Weed into your leader's name!) C guys should determine for theirselves 5CC/7K or unlim cities/domination. (Or an intermediate like 5 *built* cities, rest captured), and Ridgelake should confirm if he's ok with that or wants to shift over to 'B'.
There will be a delayed start for C anyway, due to those player schedules.
Good luck all!
Charis
Status update:
A - Mayans (Deity): Charis, Grimjack, Kylearan, Dwip, Justus
B - Incans (Deity): Hotrod, Rubberjello, Sir Bugsy, Gormdragon
C - Aztecs(Sid) : Ridgelake, T-Hawk, Speaker, Coffee
@Bugs, Coffee, Justus, Gormdragan, welcome aboard
@T-Hawk: Welcome to C3C
I'm not clear on how hard you want it - first you asked to pump difficulty to Sid, then say it's probably hard enough without restrictions. I'll leave that up to you to decide, as either way your game will make an interesting comparison. In every other 'scenario' the difficulty has been only a tiny factor, as the civs get the same starting units no matter what, so the diff only affects the cost reduction. If Mesoamerica is no different, 'Sid' will translate to no more than Emperor-plus if not restricted. Now if unlike the others the starting units did depend on difficulty, then yes, it would be hard enough even without restrictions. If it were me I would go with 5CC/Sid to match the others, and we'll get to compare what difference difficulty makes. But if you want to go further out, drop the 5CC and go for domination -- whichever you guys prefer is ok, this is a "loose" series than an Epic game. I tentatively moved Ridgelake over to C because: i) your team is short, ii) he's qualified, and iii) he didn't object to Sid level ;pI'll post the thread and A game now. 'B'/Hotrod, you guys are ready to roll, so start it yourself - Deity level, normal aggression, and there are no other options to tweak. (Well, try to interject the word Weed into your leader's name!) C guys should determine for theirselves 5CC/7K or unlim cities/domination. (Or an intermediate like 5 *built* cities, rest captured), and Ridgelake should confirm if he's ok with that or wants to shift over to 'B'.
There will be a delayed start for C anyway, due to those player schedules.
Good luck all!
Charis
Coffee
Cdn Expat
I was hoping it would translate into a diety plus game making it a good introduction to Sid. 
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