Realpolitik CIV - An Interactive AAR

[Cull]

No. If that happens, I'm out of there.

 

[Cull]

so you say.yet your track record speaks against you.and no governor/adviser has true power,you work at the sufferance of the ruler

So be it then. BTW, this is also a response to Whosit. If you wish to face a opposition that will use their options, and will push and will shove, and will take off the kiddie gloves that have been a sign of the opposition for so long, so be it.

 

[ilduce349]

I will encourage Culls desicion and bring it up with Whosit to see that he gets a (minor) spot on the administration. I also will remind whosit that (for now) I am a socail conservative and will expect the administration to have more power then when Arya was Dictator president

 

[Whosit]

So be it then. BTW, this is also a response to Whosit. If you wish to face a opposition that will use their options, and will push and will shove, and will take off the kiddie gloves that have been a sign of the opposition for so long, so be it.

I don't understand how my proposal was unfair. You did sabotage London's fishing boats and iron mine (even if it did not turn out to have an effect in-game, we did not know that at the time). The only reason you gave (correct me if I am wrong, because I did have a bit of trouble following that sequence of events) was that you used those opposition options just so that someone would have used them. Had this been done during times of peace, I might have written it off as a bad practical joke, but because you chose to do it during wartime, I am not as inclined to be lenient. However, you are a ninja-pirate (or is it a pirate-ninja?), so I don't see how performing something sneaky in service of England is an outrageous demand or outside your skill-set.

 

[Cull]

Pirate-Ninja(NPP). I was just saying that Nuke made it sounds like I would get nothing due to this. Actually that reason was one that I believe Ravus pulled out. This is the reason: that in times of war you, as I'm assuming no 50 votes come up for the GPC, and your administration would be face with these crises every other turnset, if not each and very one. I was prepping you up, keeping you on your toes. Some might say I harm England, rather I wish to help England by more unconventinal means.

In the case of a mission, I would accept. I would prefer a more public job, but practically anything will do(make me in command of a single farm, or the AIR force, for example).

 

[Whosit]

In the case of a mission, I would accept. I would prefer a more public job, but practically anything will do(make me in command of a single farm, or the AIR force, for example).

You certainly have an interesting idea of how to help England, but consider me on my toes.

The idea is to have you undertake a mission of some challenge, and possibly danger, and should you successfully complete it, you will be given a post somewhere. I can't make any promises yet ... wait, air force?? but I imagine there's plenty to do in Iberia, whether it be a desk job, manning the forts, or commanding a naval squadron.

 

[Sonereal]

You certainly have an interesting idea of how to help England, but consider me on my toes.

The idea is to have you undertake a mission of some challenge, and possibly danger, and should you successfully complete it, you will be given a post somewhere. I can't make any promises yet ... wait, air force?? but I imagine there's plenty to do in Iberia, whether it be a desk job, manning the forts, or commanding a naval squadron.

I want to be Governor of Iberia!

 

[arya126]

hey whosit-You are really not going to face a nice opposition if you get elected. I think you were talking of peace and negotiations bewteen you and the opposition, like those in Ravus's term. Well that aint gonna happen in you keep treating people this way. If you stop, i will consider being somewhat negotiable as i know how you care what the opposition thinks of you for some reason. But if you dont stop treating people running for an office as independant (BTW you cant dictate what they become. If they run for an office and win you are stuck with them so dont say that people have preferences to certain offices since if you arent nice and decide to neglect someone that wants a MINOR position, then that person might end up messing up your plans. With some help from me of course.) as crap, then you will face an armed revolution on your hands, and just about anything else i am able to throw at you. Remember, i am not MN. I have the guts to use my powers. And i fully support what Cull did. Dont use that against him.

Ilduce call me a dictator one more time. Thats just encouraging me to wreck your adminstartion if your coalition wins. You of all people should know i have political guts when i need them. I can sabotage just as well as Cull you know. probably better since i was president recently and i know the security tricks among other things.

Cull- Good luck with your office.

LH- Thanks for the piece of gotterdamerung! Amazing writing. Now i know why you call the pieces you post on here, 'not good', since that writing was just fantastic. Also, didnt you say something a while back about giving the adminstartion(in this tense it is not the president himself) certain powers in the government? If that includes what Ilduce is suggesting, then i hope for his sake that whosit doesnt execute whatever plan they have.

 

[Cull]

You certainly have an interesting idea of how to help England, but consider me on my toes.

The idea is to have you undertake a mission of some challenge, and possibly danger, and should you successfully complete it, you will be given a post somewhere. I can't make any promises yet ... wait, air force?? but I imagine there's plenty to do in Iberia, whether it be a desk job, manning the forts, or commanding a naval squadron.

My idea of assistance is what many would spit on. And the air force as well as the farm thing was what I WOULDN'T accept. Perhaps mission, get a simple, yet hard job, and work up from there? Or just give me Governor position.

 

[MathNerd]

Stingray, stop ending your posts with Bananas. Its getting annoying. No, seriously. (BTW, the is the polite equivalent of for me)

And assuming you get elected, you I'd like to run for an office.

 

[mechaerik]

but I imagine there's plenty to do in Iberia, whether it be a desk job, manning the forts, or commanding a naval squadron.

I wouldn't mind manning our Iberian forts.

 

[Sonereal]

Remember, i am not MN. I have the guts to use my powers. And i fully support what Cull did. Dont use that against him.

What you say borders on treason.

Ilduce call me a dictator one more time. Thats just encouraging me to wreck your adminstartion if your coalition wins. You of all people should know i have political guts when i need them. I can sabotage just as well as Cull you know. probably better since i was president recently and i know the security tricks among other things.

Why don't you go to move to Antium where your contributions to the war would be greatly appreciated?

 

[Cull]

If saying something is treason, Mr. Be Aggresive Every Other Single Post, then I all I can say is this: Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Also, Whosit and his administration can use the sabotage against me. However, I believe they have somewhat accepted my reasons.

 

[Sonereal]

If saying something is treason, Mr. Be Aggresive Every Other Single Post, then I all I can say is this: Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

We're at a war and blowing up fishing boats, iron mines, and threating to do more simply for fun or for political reasons is treason in every sense of the word. I'm still confused as to why you did that anyway.

Also, Whosit and his administration can use the sabotage against me. However, I believe they have somewhat accepted my reasons.

Minister of Espionage!

Oh my God why didn't I think of it five seconds ago?

 

[Cull]

Pirate-Ninja(NPP). I was just saying that Nuke made it sounds like I would get nothing due to this. Actually that reason was one that I believe Ravus pulled out. This is the reason: that in times of war you, as I'm assuming no 50 votes come up for the GPC, and your administration would be face with these crises every other turnset, if not each and very one. I was prepping you up, keeping you on your toes. Some might say I harm England, rather I wish to help England by more unconventinal means.

In the case of a mission, I would accept. I would prefer a more public job, but practically anything will do(make me in command of a single farm, or the AIR force, for example).

This is the reason why. Also, I never did blow up the fishing boats. That is a true statement. No joke.

 

[arya126]

Whosit- I think nuke has already pointed out a limit of 10 goverment funded positions including the required ones. So handing out jobs wouldnt make much sense as you just take money away from the governemnt to pay their salaries, and you croud your cabinent.

Treason? I didnt realize we had any laws except what LH posts as 'rules'. Treason doesnt apply anyway, since we are the immortal politicians. If the opposition in parliament is allowed to do it by LH, they are not confined by the law.

Roman war effort? Funny sonereal. I can see why you were good as a propaganda minister. What i do is for the good of the english nation and its people. I dont believe i have even commited any contribution to the roman side of the war effort at all. These are just threats(non-violent ones). And i am technically still president.

 

[Nukeknockout]

@Sonereal:agreed.Cull is guilty of treason. also agreed.minister of espionage.you see,we can either remove his head from his body,or put the deviousness to use.

@Cull: I didn't mean it to sound like you'd get nothing,I was just trying to point out that Whosit or whoever wouldn't have to assign somebody to watch you

@Arya: there is a 10 position limit(post #1) but we need good people.Cull has shown that he's good at the dastardly stuff,so perhaps espionage would suit him

 

[arya126]

This is the reason why. Also, I never did blow up the fishing boats. That is a true statement. No joke.

Cull the fishing boats are the reason i suspected you. Now your telling me i was wrong? Crap the saboteur is still out there if that is the truth...

 

[Cull]

Treason? You fools don't know treason. I could have rammed explosives into London without suspicion, killing all of the mortals. I could have done a lot more things. What I did should be taken as warning, as a stated not 20 posts ago.

OOC: Pirate accent is fail. Pirate attutiude is not.

 

[Whosit]

hey whosit-You are really not going to face a nice opposition if you get elected. I think you were talking of peace and negotiations bewteen you and the opposition, like those in Ravus's term. Well that aint gonna happen in you keep treating people this way. If you stop, i will consider being somewhat negotiable as i know how you care what the opposition thinks of you for some reason. But if you dont stop treating people running for an office as independant (BTW you cant dictate what they become. If they run for an office and win you are stuck with them so dont say that people have preferences to certain offices since if you arent nice and decide to neglect someone that wants a MINOR position, then that person might end up messing up your plans. With some help from me of course.) as crap, then you will face an armed revolution on your hands, and just about anything else i am able to throw at you. Remember, i am not MN. I have the guts to use my powers. And i fully support what Cull did. Dont use that against him.

If Cull is running for a position and is elected, he gets it. I thought that he was talking about getting appointed to a position. I would also like you to give me an example of how I am treating people "like crap." You've started to sling a lot of mud at me all of a sudden, and I don't understand why. I haven't threatened you, I haven't slighted you (as far as I know), but ever since I announced that I am going to run for president, your hostility towards me has greatly increased.

I am also dismayed that you seem so eager to call for such drastic measures as additional sabotage and armed revolution. I can't possibly see how that will help England during this crisis. I intend to do my best to accommodate Opposition desires, but I do not intend to be held hostage by threats. We need to put England's interests forward before personal ones.

Edit-before-post-to-keep-up-with-other-posts:

Minister of Espionage. Heh. I'd save that spot for Cull if he wants it (though I still want him to work for it! ).

Arya: Have I yet given an indication that I will go over the ten allotted government positions? I do not think so. If there is a limit of ten, then there will be no more than ten (President, Vice President, eight ministers, just to show that I can count).