Realpolitik CIV - An Interactive AAR

[ilduce349]

I actually was about to give in, I stated that in my last pm. but he gave in first.

 

[Celticfury]

I agree with arya. Open borders does produce a bonus in relations, and I'm pretty sure that cancelling them will tick-off of neighbors (which is something we cannot afford to do).

I do wonder why people would plot AR. If the majority is in agreement, then wouldn't it be better to just call for a reelection if things go badly?

Also, you still need to declare a foreign minister and a military minister, ilduce.

 

[ilduce349]

I am pretty sure the pres can decline the vote of no-confidence

 

[MathNerd]

I agree with CF, to be honest. Not only because Ilduce won't make a good leader, but also because everybody is so fired up against him ATM that nobody is thinking correctly.

BTW, RP voting is flawed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_impossibility_theorem

 

[MathNerd]

Yeah, you can decline, but only if you want an AR instead. If enough people support AR, it will happen.

 

[ilduce349]

Fine, my foriegn is Sonereal (if he accepts) and my military is Cull (if he accepts)

 

[MathNerd]

You are not being serious about Cull, are you? (This is a real question)

 

[arya126]

CULL ISNT IN YOUR COALITION.

Resign. Now.

Ravus PLEASE call a vote of no confidence. Please. We are BEGGING YOU!

 

[ilduce349]

You are not being serious about Cull, are you? (This is a real question)

He would be a competent military advisor. If you want to throw down that Idea, Nuke is second in line.

 

[ilduce349]

I have no intention on resigning, I will see this to the end no matter how much is thrown at me.

 

[MathNerd]

CULL QUIT YOUR COALITION BECAUSE YOU BECAME PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO BE YOUR MILITARY ADVISOR????????

This is what I meant by #1 and #2.

 

[Whosit]

I actually was about to give in, I stated that in my last pm. but he gave in first.

If you said that, I didn't see it.

Anyway, here's the whole deal on Open Borders.

1) They grant foreign trade routes, which are more profitable than domestic routes.

2) Over time, the civs you have OB with will like you a little more (+1 or +2).

3) Simply canceling OB removes that bonus, but incurs no penalty.

4) If you have OB with civ A, who is the Worst Enemy of civ B, civ B may demand you close OB with A. If you refuse, -1 w/ civ B. If you agree, usually no bonus with civ B, but large penalty with civ A.

Therefore, it is usually smart not to OB with civs that lots of others hate. Similar with resource trades. Knowing who is whose Worst Enemy is key.

 

[MathNerd]

Hey, LH, what happens if nobody is willing to be Ilduce's ministers?

 

[ilduce349]

If you said that, I didn't see it.

I said give me a reason to trust you, blah blah blah blah. If you can, then I will support you for being president.

As I technically haven't done a turnset, you can still follow up on that offer and I will happily resign


edit: X-post WIM and Whosit already agreed (I think). But that does bring a good question.

 

[MathNerd]

It's too late. We asked LH about it, and you can't just drop out in favor of another candidate.

And honestly, if I were you, I would stay in. If you leave, you will forever be remembered as the "Prez that claimed he would save England, then gave in under pressure".

 

[Captain Fargle]

If you resign, your Vice President becomes President. If your whole coalition resigns, Leader of the Opposition becomes President.

EDIT: MN, stop encouraging him!

 

[Whosit]

Y'know, it probably wouldn't literally kill us if we let him come up with a plan draft at least. Though if it does literally kill someone, I will laugh.

 

[MathNerd]

Very, very, very, very, OOC: I kinda think having somebody everybody hates as our leader would make the game a whole lot more fun.

EDIT, X-Post: Well, this is RP, and it is being GMed by LH...

 

[arya126]

I have an idea...a very very bad one. Time to ask LH.

 

[MathNerd]

Bad for who? Ilduce or the rest of us?