Yes, the PPP joining us would result in it being 16-15. LH also voted for the monks.
No i was banned from the rome AAR. Anyway, that is a different game, dont bring those things into this gamne. 2 entirely different threads/games. Do not confuse the two.
Hes not punishing anyone...hes picking a side. Dont whine because its not your side.
Well, look at it this way - one vote towards you basically seals the election - my count is 17-13 counting my votes, Aegis favor - but with the Patriots lagging one vote really doesn't make a hill of beans. Besides, it'll be FUN to see a closer elections. Several Secret Ballots have gone in already, BTW. But with my PPP vote it's suddenly more important to bring Fargle into the fold - and to stay even remotely fair what am I to do with my other with no other neutral?
And your wrong. The post is not irrelevent, as it has to do with RP. If you didnt want it to come out, then why did you post it in a chatroom that you saiud yourself was public? Everything you say/post can and will be used against you. You cant just say it was posted so that you could see peoples reactions. Stop trying the same excuse over and over.
And your wrong. The post is not irrelevent, as it has to do with RP. If you didnt want it to come out, then why did you post it in a chatroom that you saiud yourself was public? Everything you say/post can and will be used against you. You cant just say it was posted so that you could see peoples reactions. Stop trying the same excuse over and over.
Well assuming both votes via PM were towards Aegis, then its 19-14 right now. I missed 2 votes last count. Let me explain:
At last Ravus count, it was 13-12 Aegis.
Nuke voted imperial and co-ops, pushing it to 15-12
I put in my second vote to the monks, making it 15-13.
Sonereal puts in his votes. Its 17-13 now.
LH votes monks and PPP. The PPP has 2 votes now, and the coalitions are now at 17-14.
Apparently the secret ballot has gone in. It is 19-14.
I wasn't whining, I was pointing out that his reason for voting was flawed.
Well assuming both votes via PM were towards Aegis, then its 19-14 right now. I missed 2 votes last count. Let me explain:
At last Ravus count, it was 13-12 Aegis.
Nuke voted imperial and co-ops, pushing it to 15-12
I put in my second vote to the monks, making it 15-13.
Sonereal puts in his votes. Its 17-13 now.
LH votes monks and PPP. The PPP has 2 votes now, and the coalitions are now at 17-14.
Apparently the secret ballot has gone in. It is 19-14.
Sorry, I was unaware that you voted for the monks, I must have missed that post.
Well, look at it this way - one vote towards you basically seals the election - my count is 17-13 counting my votes, Aegis favor - but with the Patriots lagging one vote really doesn't make a hill of beans. Besides, it'll be FUN to see a closer elections. Several Secret Ballots have gone in already, BTW. But with my PPP vote it's suddenly more important to bring Fargle into the fold - and to stay even remotely fair what am I to do with my other with no other neutral?
And your wrong. The post is not irrelevent, as it has to do with RP. If you didnt want it to come out, then why did you post it in a chatroom that you saiud yourself was public? Everything you say/post can and will be used against you. You cant just say it was posted so that you could see peoples reactions. Stop trying the same excuse over and over.
I love how you answered my questions bottom up when most people read top down.
I'm going to do it properly
Actually when I don't have any hostile actions towards the Vikings this term, you'll know I was telling the truth.
I would like to know, as the race will be decided by those two individuals.
I prefer to ignore posts from people who me reading them will just start arguments like this. (bolded questions do catch my attention though)
I was just pointing out that his original reason was irrelevent. I don't care who he votes for, he's voted for my party twice now. I knew that he was going to vote for you guys as that will make the election more interesting.
I was just pointing out that his original reason was irrelevent. I don't care who he votes for, he's voted for my party twice now. I knew that he was going to vote for you guys as that will make the election more interesting.
Well, just on the record, what I said about the war thing was long-term, contingency, if-the-vikings-attack-us sort of thing.
I believe that war right now would be detrimental as we neither have the numbers nor the technology/training.
War, if it comes, will probably not happen during the next turnset. Therefore, we should follow the policy of this:
If the RussVikings want peace, peace they shall receive.
If the RussoViking want war, war they shall receive.
All the while, we should be building up our production base, so we can have a strong war machine when the time comes.
To be more clear, Arya said grow up to one of my posts early stating that you had no reason to vote for the Monks considering it was Mech who said you only voted neutrals. Arya refuted by saying he doesn't need a point as to why he votes for a side. My refute is, if he gives a reason that contradicts himself, I am going to point that out.
Well, just on the record, what I said about the war thing was long-term, contingency, if-the-vikings-attack-us sort of thing.
I believe that war right now would be detrimental as we neither have the numbers nor the technology/training.
War, if it comes, will probably not happen during the next turnset. Therefore, we should follow the policy of this:
If the RussVikings want peace, peace they shall receive.
If the RussoViking want war, war they shall receive.
All the while, we should be building up our production base, so we can have a strong war machine when the time comes.
Economy should take priority.
War is a tool of diplomacy favored by fools. The bloody Roman war saw thousands upon thousands of English die, I am in no position to see that happen again.
Remember, someone with a good economy will be affected less when war comes. Especially late game when money can speed up production (with the US civic). That is why economy should take priority, as without to money to pay a soldier, the soldier will have lost most of his reasons to fight.
Election Situation: I wonder if i can take a holiday as a independent later. Then i too can hide in the shadows and throw out secret votes. while cackling. Then maybe organise a few more parties to disolve and go independent and overthrow the established method of power with independents! Maybe. Meh.
Events: Current Topography
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Viking Deathstack
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Issues: Tech path options
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Civic: Go for constitution and Democracy. Getting Representation and risking the Statue of Liberty could make all territory in Euroasia pay for itself.
Exploration: Get optics and explore the globe. The Carvels would allow us to spy on neighbours while transporting missionaries around the world. Getting to Galleons would mean the American Super Continent would be ours to plunder.
Science: Going for scientific techs would obsolete monasteries. The pay off is more potential Great People for getting their first and a variety of extras from Airships to the Merchant food Corporations.
Industrialism: Going for steel would allow us to be artillery kings. The Railroad would allow us to fight and reinforce a land war in Asia. We would also have to go through Chemistry getting us the most powerful ships on the sea. The drawback is that we would be overspecializing and could loose our sudden tech advantage.
Great People
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Settle: If we get Constitution soon and the civic representation then settled these GPs could do a lot of good.
Tech: Not sure what the techs are but we are advanced enough now that they won't be one shots and will only get us halfway there. Worthwhile?
Academy & Trade Mission: Increases what we have. The Academy would be a good boost in our top research city while the trade mission would get us some quick money to upgrade all the troops.
Keep: Could be kept for a 3GP golden age or for founding a Corporation as we are getting close to some of them allready.
Foriegn Policy
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Reclaim our island: War ASAP. We take back the isles now and fight a holding action in the east moving forward slowly.
Peace: We stay as we are and try to gain influence, build colonies, spread religion.
Survival of the Fittest: Take out a weaker nation for an easy war and perhaps to train the troops. Carthage, Egypt and America are the weakest none-vassals.
Surgical Strike: Build up and only launch a strike when the first assault will cripple our greatest European Threats.
Interior Policy
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To complicated to list everything possible, so current highlighted troubles are below.
Health of the Nation: Currently most of our cities are unhealthy. How should this be cured?
Religion: The Matter of Free Religion has been raised and that not all English cities are Christian. What should be done?
Vassals: Germany is second to last in score. He is better then America. He also can tech partially well and has Engineering to trade. Khan of Ireland on the other hand is a broken man. With his lands under occupation.
Troops vs Infrastructure: What should be concentrated on?
Coalitions: Aegis II: Consortium/Imperial/Green Party/Co-Ops = 17
President = ilduce
Vice President = Nukeknockout
SpoilerAegis II Manifesto :
Tech: Complete Rifling path, pick up Optics/Astronomy for better transport boats, then Chemistry/Steel for Frigates + Cannons. After the military techs, Scientific Method to reveal oil, and Physics for a free Great Scientist (see below for use).
Great People: We have Scientist and Merchant. The Great Scientist will build an Academy in Liverpool, which boasts a respectable base commerce. The Great Merchant will be sent to the New World on a Trade Mission. The Great Scientist from Physics will be saved for Standard Ethanol if we lack Oil, otherwise, it will be settled in our Oxford city, if already built, or used for another Academy.
Foreign Policy: Build-up our army in preparation for a strike at Nidaros, reclaiming Ireland after the main threat is gone. Enough troops will be held in reserve to defend the home island, eastern front, and Germany. We will maintain good relations with Carthage and any other country that has remained willing to trade techs with us.
Interior: Continue to build Gold/Beaker improvements, work our way towards the Globe Theatre in Amsterdam for drafting by adding Theatres to cities. Workers keep adding tile improvements to cities that need them. Production cities continue to build our best troops and siege units, switching to Galleons once we have Astronomy.
The Patriots: IngSoc/Monks/Jokers = 16
President = Aysee
Vice President = Ravus
SpoilerThe Patriot Manifesto: Mark 2, subject to changes and edits :
The Patriots do what is best for England in all things.
7 Projected Cabinet Members
Tech: Industrialism/Military, filling in techs to get Naval units and eventually heading towards Communism if able. Great People: Store or Use for Special Abilities. Foriegn Policy: Pursue Egypt as a ally. Build up for a eventual surgical Strike against the Vikings. Russian and Ireland cannot be reclaimed without also dealing with the Vikings. Thus our first move should be against them. Peace, Build-up and Red Coats first though. Trebs should be traded off Fredrick Interior Policy: Set up resource Trades for health. Found a forward base near the Viking Capital so that we only need to shuttle units across instead of building a navy of Galleons. Troops should be diversified before upgrading to Red Coats and Trebs (Or Cannons if available). Build up Infrastructure before troops
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