Realpolitik CIV - An Interactive AAR

[arya126]

WIM- You realize when Whosit started negotiations, i COULDNT GET ON MY COMPUTER?

And you remmeber how i was advocating christianity a while back, while the opposition was dead-set on confucianism? I have the history of argueing for christianity. You 2 have the history of argueing for confucianism, and only demanded christianity during the time i was away from the computer. Maybe even after that now that i think about it.

Do i have to quote me asking for christianity, then you arguing for CoL?

 

[arya126]

Well, you then have significant infighting in your coalition.

Anyway, I would quote you, Arya, but this is when you began your period of absence. Now that I read back through it, I'm starting to wonder if that was a complete coincidence.

No we do not have infighting. Just because we are not exactly the same on every issue, does not equal infighting damnit! we are allowed to have our own opinions as well.

Coincidence? Really? I see a time where i was a 'smartass' to my dad, and i couldnt get on the computer all week because of it. I manged to sneak some time on tuesday but that was it. When you arent here for a period of time, i dont go thinking 'Conspiracy! It must be one!'!

 

[MathNerd]

Yeah, I think I went overboard with the pointing fingers thing. Sorry, won't do it again.

Anyway, I agree that we were focused on CoL, but only because it seemed to us that CoL would be a lot quicker, since I consider Theo a medieval tech and CoL a classical tech. Also, if I remember, you advocated Theo because you were against Conf. in RL, not because you thought Theo was a better option.

EDIT: And there's a line between infighting and disagreeing. Two of the most active party members disagreeing with each other on whether or not to found a religion? I call that infighting.

 

[arya126]

And theo has a cooler symbol then CoL. But of course nobody remembers that i said that.

And reasons dont matter here, so dont turn that one on me. I supported theo, and you supported CoL. Therefore, the demand was issued after it seemed that we already aiming for theo, making it an invalid demand in my mind.

No problem with the pointing figures thing. But IT IS very aggravating when you go so overboard.

 

[MathNerd]

There's two problems with that:

First, prove that you were aiming for Theo.

Second, I was willing to give up some of our powers for you to get Theo. Why didn't you take advantage of that and just bluff?

 

[arya126]

Because i didnt want to give up EP, and because taking away powers makes the game less lively. I would almost be happy if a pwoer was used, just to use it. I will still be pissed off if you issue a vote of no confidence though.

As for the first one-Do i really have to dig through all that crap to find a quote? You do realize how many pages have been created since then right? Fine ill do it later if i have time.

 

[MathNerd]

We would be reluctant to use VONC unless we feel the government is doing worse than doing nothing would be. Keep in mind, we do not want to hurt England.c

And yes, you have to dig through all that "crap" to find a quote saying that you were not against CoL just for RL reasons.

 

[arya126]

Hold up. What does it matter that i was against it for RL reasons? It still shows i was against it.

 

[MathNerd]

You admitted, later on, that your reasons for disagreeing with CoL were incorrect! So now you're contradicting yourself.

 

[Nukeknockout]

MN,Arya,you do realize that your argument sounds a lot like two girls I heard arguing over whose fault it was that one of them tripped on a flat surface?

 

[W|M]

But MN is the correct one!

 

[arya126]

Yeah, but i tend not to give up on arguements even if they sound stupid. Okay is there anymore debating to do? Or should i just send over a plan to LH, and get an update who knows when?

EDIT: I mean yeah to nuke, not WIM. MN is not right.

 

[MathNerd]

Want to yell at us some more about slavery?

Our DO NOT ADOPT SLAVERY demand still stands. Adopting slavery will have repercussions from the English people. THEY WILL NOT BE HAPPY.

One of the Monks had a vision of Arya's speech announcing slavery. Here is the picture he drew for us:

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The really angry dudes are the opposition, the angry people are Englishmen, the dude in the middle of the podium is Arya, and the two dudes next to him are Whosit and Aysee.

EDIT: The monk also warned us and said that England will be doomed if we adopt slavery.

 

[W|M]

Slavery = Eventual downfall. That's a simple equation, look at the Romans, Spanish Empire, CSA e.t.c.

 

[arya126]

Maybe you should stop telling us how the english people feel. I mean maybe you REALLY should stop. I WILL DECLARE ML IF YOU DONT. Got it?

 

[MathNerd]

OK.

Declare ML right now, if you dare.

 

[mechaerik]

Saying that slavery leads to downfall is ridiculous. Its irrelevant, downfall occurs anyways.

 

[MathNerd]

Yes, but any lasting civilization must keep its citizens happy. And slavery doesn't do that.

 

[ilduce349]

I AM OPPOSED TO SLAVERY
Everyone should have the opportunity to gain money. Not die of being over worked

 

[mechaerik]

@MathNerd:
Technically you're incorrect there; slaves aren't typically classed as citizens.