I oppose slavery. I have no problem with indentured servitude, but I will vote down any measure to make people like animals. I support the slaves right to FREEDOM!
Okay the opposition is already killing me with stress on responding to this thing with the same response over and over. Your in my coalition. At least read the argfuements on previous pages to understand what we are talking about.
Didnt LH just ban this topic? Anyway let me explain (This is an explanation so that dominatiuon doesnt have to read all the other pages if he doesnt want too. This is not open for comments from the opposition to start another heated arguement.)
'Slavery' is a term used in the game. Alot of people have sterotypes associated with that word. The civil war in the usa always seems to people the war that banished slavery, yada yada. They also seem to think that the slavery practiced there was the only kind of slavery ever used. But they are wrong.
'Slavery' has been used for the past couple millennia. It can involve anything from POWs worked after a war, an african tribe taking another one in a war and using them as slaves, and so on. Some times, slavery is instituted like it was in the south (usa) and the children of slaves became slaves as well. Alot of the time (but not always) they were treated barbarically, and very badly. Their masters could do whatever they want to them. It never stopped because their children grew up like that too. It became hereditary.
This is not what we are talking about. 'Slavery' is a term in the game. There is no game function to represent paroles, immigration, or indentured servants as you call them. It is all classified under slavery. Slavery in this case, is like an indentured servant. they do jobs for an amount of time, (like building a library) and they get some kind of reward, like being free, or i suggested they immigrate to ireland where the anscestors of law breakers went when Cull banished them.
What we have been saying, is that we take people who have commited serious crimes, and let them work on community projects, or whatever else is being worked on in the city at that time. They get it dont faster. Some go free. Others immigrate to new horizons to start a new life. Other people are used as well. Immigrants, can become 'slves' as the game calls them, and earn their citizenship. Illegal immigrants can also do this when they are caught, instead of being dumped in the channel.
Like Whosit and MN have already displayed, there is no accurate way to use this kind of method OOC and come out with the in-game affects like the loss of so much POP. MN says this signifies that so much of our POP is slaves, and that cant be true. Meanwhile Whosit showed that nothing we can use to explain slavery, can be used to explain the huge loss of POP in the game.
We are not using slavery to 'work people like animals' as you say. Its more liek what i would call 'community service' that would be required for various things as i have pointed out or, as you call the idea 'indentured servants'. The ideas are very simliar.
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Ilduce: I meant that I PERSONALLY was right wing in RL. The party i belong to here is centrist. Thats how i see it as well.
