Red Alert on Star Trek?

[Immortal]

the thing was the greatest movie ever made which takes place in the antarctic.

as long as they are sex crazed as well.

 

[thestonesfan]

But Curt...the Thing is dead.

Or is it? Maybe we should wait here and see what happens...

What a classic ending!

Anyhoo...For me, Star Trek is the original series. TNG was okay, but I just never could enjoy it as much as the original.

First Contact was a great movie, though.

 

[Immortal]

Originally posted by thestonesfan
First Contact was a great movie, though.

agreed, its the only one I can even watch. My lady doesn't hate it either, but anything else sci-fi related and shes out the door... Must be Frakes' director ability.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Immortal
the thing was the greatest movie ever made which takes place in the antarctic.

as long as they are sex crazed as well.

A sex crazed Thing would lead to the most mind-blowing visual experience ever...

ST would never be the same!

And quite rightly!

 

[CornMaster]

The only two good Star Trek games released (in my opinion) were Birth of the Federation and Bridge Commander (Microprose and Totally Games) both died far too early as the developers lost support from the mother company to fix bugs. And crappy games like Starfleet Command and Star Trek Armada (Taldren and I don't know) turn out 2 or 3 versions of their horrible games. SFC should have been 3D and was limited by licence. Armada was a complete Starcraft rip off...and a bad one at that.

But as far as series goes...I have no problem with Enterprise...it's a decent show with decent actors and a decent sense for continuity.

Other ideas bouncing around before Enterprise was announced was a show from a Romulan or Klingon ship. George Takei wanted a show about Excelsor (with himself in command of course) There was actually an internet petition to paramont about it.

But I could go for a new future series....maybe based 50 years after DS9. Emough time for the federation to expand and find a new enemy or two.

 

[Immortal]

they've charted the alpha beta, voyager knows everything important about the delta quadrant and the gamma quadrant is dominion space.

Unless they find a way to go galaxy hopping it will be very difficult.

 

[superslug]

Unless they find a way to go galaxy hopping it will be very difficult.

Agreed. In order to maintain credibility with the audience, the bad guys have to keep getting tougher. Sure TNG ran into the Borg once or twice, but it was mainly the Cardassians. It took a step up to the Dominion in DS9 and then Voyager was the one that really dealt with the Borg. Considering we've already had Q, it made sense to take a step 'back' to Enterprise.

A future series would have to galaxy hop, I think. The only thing is, what new tech would you put on the ships to differentiate them? TNG added holodecks and replicators to say "hey, we're later" and Enterprise's transporters are unreliable, nor do they even have shields, to say "hey, we're earlier". How many toys could you give them and still be able to come up with a constant source of stories of them being in danger?

 

[Greadius]

Transmodulation oscillation problems from biokenetic interference can always threaten the ship!

I agree with your point that the other series took a few years to find their footing. Part of the problem is that I don't think the creators have any grand 'vision' that the series is supposed to take, and the characters start out pretty hollow and develop along with the series.

Originally posted by John Bull
Ferengi?

Don't be silly, the Ferengi are more heroic than the Federation.

 

[CurtSibling]

The Ferengi should be the main species in the show!

 

[John Bull]

The main problem is that allt eh aliens aren't very alien looking at all, and ALL SPEAK ENGLISH. The silicone-based life-form inVoyager was interesting, but races like the Romulans are too much like humans for my liking. How likely is it that so many different creatures would have evolved in such as imilar way to develop such fiendishly similar spacecraft or even consider travelling into space in the first place? The new enemy needs to be completely diffeerent, not neccessarily in oppossition to the Federation but of scuch a completely different mindset that muisunderstandings lead to trouble.

 

[CivCube]

I remember watching a ST episode devoted to that. Apparently a long-lost ancient race, shortly before dying out, scattered its seeds on many different worlds. Nature took over, and we now have a bunch of humanoid races which look like each other.

 

[Mojotronica]

Originally posted by John Bull
The main problem is that allt eh aliens aren't very alien looking at all, and ALL SPEAK ENGLISH. The silicone-based life-form inVoyager was interesting, but races like the Cardassians are too much like humans for my liking. How likely is it that so many different creatures would have evolved in such as imilar way to develop such fiendishly similar spacecraft or even consider travelling into space in the first place? The new enemy needs to be completely diffeerent, not neccessarily in oppossition to the Federation but of scuch a completely different mindset that muisunderstandings lead to trouble.

Two words: budget constraints.

 

[John Bull]

Slightly OT- I think I remember seeing a Voyager episode which tried to explain the dinosaurs disappearing by saying they flew away in a spacecraft. i sthis correct or am i just misremembering? It makes m elaugh when fiction tries to explain things

 

[FearlessLeader2]

Curt, I spoke of STTNG (ST Jr.) DS9, and Voyager. All of them were infamous for ST technobabble that literally insults the intellect of anyone even remotely versed in the most basic of sciences. I have watched very few Enterprise episodes due to availability of the show in my area, my own lack of time to watch it, and the fact that the few eps I took the time to watch generally blew moist chunks of monkey dung.

If you're looking for a new enemy for the Federation, I have one for you. Back in the third, fourth, or fifth season of TNG, there was discovered a secret plot to take over the Federation High Council by parasitic organisms. This plotline was never developed in a demonstration of one of the main problems with St Jr.: lack of continuity.

Imagine the Milky Way dominated by the Federation, and the Federation dominated by the parasites, and a REBEL force trying to break their grip on the Federation:

Hidden bases on dead planets orbiting red giants on the verge of nova. (Metaphasic shield emergencies, evacuations, etc...)

Hidden bases in the asteroid belts of Para-Fed dominated worlds.

Secret alliances with Klingon, Romulan, Ferengi, or hell, even remnant Borg, Dominion or other races.

Daring raids on shipyards, farm planets, or fortresses.

Secret commando operations in the dark of night against Para-Fed centers of power, to ferret out info or just sabotage the power structure.

The list goes on and on, it's V for the whole galaxy...

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by FearlessLeader2
Curt, I spoke of STTNG (ST Jr.) DS9, and Voyager. All of them were infamous for ST technobabble that literally insults the intellect of anyone even remotely versed in the most basic of sciences. I have watched very few Enterprise episodes due to availability of the show in my area, my own lack of time to watch it, and the fact that the few eps I took the time to watch generally blew moist chunks of monkey dung.

If you're looking for a new enemy for the Federation, I have one for you. Back in the third, fourth, or fifth season of TNG, there was discovered a secret plot to take over the Federation High Council by parasitic organisms. This plotline was never developed in a demonstration of one of the main problems with St Jr.: lack of continuity.

Imagine the Milky Way dominated by the Federation, and the Federation dominated by the parasites, and a REBEL force trying to break their grip on the Federation:

Hidden bases on dead planets orbiting red giants on the verge of nova. (Metaphasic shield emergencies, evacuations, etc...)

Hidden bases in the asteroid belts of Para-Fed dominated worlds.

Secret alliances with Klingon, Romulan, Ferengi, or hell, even remnant Borg, Dominion or other races.

Daring raids on shipyards, farm planets, or fortresses.

Secret commando operations in the dark of night against Para-Fed centers of power, to ferret out info or just sabotage the power structure.

The list goes on and on, it's V for the whole galaxy...

'Para-Feds!' That is a great image!

I deem that the writers of ST could use someone with your daring vision to patch up this sinking franchise...

I fondly recall that episode with the parasites! It was yet another unexplored avenue...
It was voted the least popular episode...(at that time)

I think however, your idea would be most welcome in the current famine of good ST ideas...

It would be wild enough to reinvent the whole Star Trek ethos...I like it!

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by John Bull
Slightly OT- I think I remember seeing a Voyager episode which tried to explain the dinosaurs disappearing by saying they flew away in a spacecraft. i sthis correct or am i just misremembering? It makes m elaugh when fiction tries to explain things

It is true. there indeed was an episode of this.

But like all of Voyager, it was crap.

 

[John Bull]

Originally posted by CurtSibling

But like all of Voyager, it was crap.

Says he, remembering perfectly an obscure episode

 

[CornMaster]

Originally posted by FearlessLeader2
I have watched very few Enterprise episodes due to availability of the show in my area, my own lack of time to watch it, and the fact that the few eps I took the time to watch generally blew moist chunks of monkey dung.

Like all shows there are good and bad. Enterprise is no exception. That's why I hated DS9. I saw 4 or 5 of the worst epiosdes and made summary judgement. After watching the whole thing, I like it better then TNG. The characters seem more real to me, as do the situations.

I liked Voyager too....but it also had some bad episodes, but some awesome ones like "Year of Hell".

Enterprise has some good episodes...Shockwave, and the Season 2 finally. Night in Sick Bay was funny. Others like Vanishing Point, and Terra Nova and the first episode sucked ass.

If you're looking for a new enemy for the Federation, I have one for you. Back in the third, fourth, or fifth season of TNG, there was discovered a secret plot to take over the Federation High Council by parasitic organisms. This plotline was never developed in a demonstration of one of the main problems with St Jr.: lack of continuity.

They had several episodes on this storyline. Picard ended up killing the main guy.... (can't remember his name)

Secret commando operations in the dark of night against Para-Fed centers of power, to ferret out info or just sabotage the power structure.

That's called "Star Trek: Away Team" Which is a good but hard game. I think I got to the 16th or 17th mission.

I would like to see more on the Gorn and the Sheilak. And they are non-human for those who don't know.

 

[animepornstar]

enterprise will be great when we start seeing wars with the klingons and romulans.

 

[PresidentMike]

The episode in question is "Conspiracy," a first season episode (production number 125).

The fourth season episode "The Drumhead" (production number 195) makes oblique reference to the conspiracy and implies that it was defeated.