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The Confederation does not agree with the Constantinople war as well.

The President and most of Congress does recognize the new country, we do not think it has need, nor any claim, to the lands of Italy fought so hard for by the French people.

France has invaded Italy, and in anyother times it would be frowned upon, but he did it to help the allies against the Iron Fist. Almost every ally has gained something in this war, why should France miss out on the land they fought for?

Constantinople is rome, just under a new leader and name. We should not let this government trick us to letting him have more land.

LeParte of the Andes Confederation
 
but we should not judge how he will rule this country based on his last. all in game decisions should be made by in game evidence, inwhich case the zulu and constantinople are two different people.

I still agree with France on the in game things, but I don't believe we should judge Anarchy's new country based on what he did with the last.

Jason
 
Portugal agrees, while we do acknowledge Constantinople's sovereignty, Portugal will do whatever is needed to prevent Constantinople from becoming the new Rome, even if it comes to war, the age of such tyranny is over.
 
The UN responds:

The UN updater took the stand, he was clearly Russian, but he had no ties to the Russian governemnt.

"I will now take questions"

Reporters lifted their heads to watch as their hands continued to scribble on their pads.

"THe UN is currently voting on a peace with Madagascar an Rome, no sir, things do not look good for them, yes sir, we're trying our best, yes sir the Russian delagate voted yes. No sir it had nothing to do with me."

The questions continued, boring the tall man in the dark suit.

"How do you feel about the French policy against the Constatinians."

The Chairman/Updater grinned, now his time had come.

"The United Nations wishes to see southern Italy returned to Rome, with Reparations. Neither France nor Russia wish reparations, Russia would rather the French held it if Rome were destroyed."

He had studied every nation's stance, he had to, it was his job.

"The UN would like to see it in the hands of Caonstantinople if Rome falls, This way the French aew checked to the south by a growing power."
 
Look. I'm not judging Anarchy by what he did as the Zulu. I do not want to destroy him. However, he was allowed to jump ship early, and is now attempting to take advantage of--in fact, rape--his former ally because of this. I won't allow it. Constantinople can withdraw or be crushed. However, they will not get a scrap more of Roman land.
 
OOC> Constantinople's formation and new leader are confusing to say the least.

IC> Portugal does not support the salvation of Rome. They will pay for their atrocities at the hands of my allies, the French.

Constantionople should not recive any more land. In my opinion, they recived too much, they already control quite a bit more land than Portugal controlled at its formation.
 
To Russia:
From Arbaia: What has Constantinple done against you? They are only trying to help and you are acting like a bully. Stop this at once. I withdraw from the UN in Kiev in protest.
 
Constantinople is, as my allies have put it, a guise for Rome Reborn. If they choose to make war against my ally, the French, I will join it for the French. THe French have oo long been my ally for me to abandon them to an upstart leader in greece. I don't necesarrily plan to keep any greek land, jus stop them from fighting France, whom i am sworn to protect as she is to protect Russia.

Constantinople is hardly trying to help, only to grab as much land as it can to build up for another war....

We are sorry you must leave Kiev, you will be sorely missed, though the Russian government cares little.

The Updater vows to return the UN to Cuzco as soon as possible, away from the polotics of his motherland.
 
To: Arabia
From: Portugal

Arabia, you are hardly in a place where you can throw your weight around. You were just saved from annihilation as it is.
 
My Opinion on Constantinople issue:

I am seeing France's logic behind his claims and I agree with it. My earlier post was just asking for an explanation and I got a good one.

To: Arabia

Do not throw your weight around like that. I spared you, but would be ready to help France if they decided to war with you and Constantinople.

I think Constantinople should gain Sicily but nothing else.
 
Why should they get Sicily? The United Kingdom has fought for that land, it should remain as their's.
 
I suggest you work out a deaL. I CAN;T SEE HOW THE NEW Government based in Constantinople is related to the old Nostradamist regieme. Please make that distinction.

To Egypt: Do not threaten a fellow ally, with that. I am onl trying to help a fellow ally of mine get what he has fough for. Yes France has fought as well, but so has Constantinople.

To the Woreld: Constantinople has been under the Roman thumb for too long. But instead of welcomming his independence and helping him gain some revenge, yo shun him, and try and put him under your thumb. The United Nations as it stands is for the powers who wish to bully smaller nations into what they want to do. I sughgest you reevaluate your postions before it is too late.
 
to Constantinopol:
We will be to your aid.

to Arabia:
We will help you help Constantinopol.

to our allies:
All our allies from now should suport Constantinopol, becouse she didn't did no wrong!

to Andes:
We accept, we will aid you.

to India:
Surender, Please.

to Germany:
We will not let you keep lands that are from the past rightfully ours. after the war is over you will need to give somalia back to us, as she been conquered from us in the past.

(story and orders, if there will be ones, much later)
 
To India: Surrender, we shall take some territory to compensate for your brutal occupation but other than that would like to sign a NAP and perhaps a MPP.

To China: I will sign an alliance involving Constantinople with you. I commend you on your community spirit.
 
to Arabia: we do not want an alliance with you. we have enough allies, and we don't need to ally for helping byzantion\turkey.

OOC: I know anarchy just plan to conquer europe this time, but thats what fun when playing with him... you can never know who will be next, and this make the game much more fun, and make me want to wait to the next turn...
 
occ: I think someone is getting upset cause they don;t like what is happening over in illegal rtor5 land.
 
Originally posted by Sheep2
occ: I think someone is getting upset cause they don;t like what is happening over in illegal rtor5 land.

If you're referring to me, firstly, I did not report you to Chieftess. Secondly, I wouldn't even carry over my attitudes between games, as you and EQ have been so kind as to do.
 
occ: i was referring to erez, wow this is the best flame ever it has spread to three and perhaps a fourth thread!
 
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