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[Jason The King]

The ATG is not hurting or robbing any nation we trade with. Again, it is as if you were trading with 3 nations (the ATG members) for the price of one. It is benifing you, and it is benifting the ATG. The ATG disperses wealth within our own organization of the Americas, and does not mettle in the income porduced by trade with anyother country. I fail to see how we are dictating trade terms to anybody else by the Americas. If you dont want trade, then DONT OPEN IT.

We welcome trade with everyone, but if two of the members are at war with another nation, they are not going to want to trade with them, that is why we have a voting system.

We do not allow outside American nations in the ATG for one reason - the ATG system would not benefit them. They are too far away, and the system does not work. The ATG was developed to unite the Americas in trade, and only recently did we open trade with the international community as a trade alliance.

So end this bickering, as there is nothing to bicker about. The Andes will join the WTO if it means the ATG can trade with Arabia. The Americas trade on a whole, so for Andes Trade you will be getting all of ATG goods. That is the glory of the alliance.

 

[Jason The King]

Egypt is absolutly correctly right.

 

[Sheep]

If everyone would read his last sentence it says

'Thats the glory of the alliance'

In other words the ATG has been formed on the premise of free trade but in other terms is actually an alliance to give power of the world to America. Arabia will not stand for this.

 

[Jason The King]

Arabia must not be understanding, and that is sad.

If you read what is before, that sentence refers the glory of the alliance for people who are not in it. Please state the whole paragraph if you are going to state anything at all.

How, exactly, is the alliance giving power to America, hm? If you can answer that correctly, then I will be amazed.

 

[Sheep]

In response to this obvious build up of American alliances he Confederate Congress of Arabia has voted 365 - 2 to end neutrality. It also has voted 345 - 22 to pertion to join the alliance known as the Iron Fist. It also voted 235 - 132 to pertion to join the alliance known as the Asian Alliance.

To the members of the Iron Fist
From the Arabic Confederation:

We ask you for help. Will you be willing to help our military to build up if we allied with you?

Sultan Nubriyah the Great.

To the members of the Asian Alliance
From the Arabic Confederation

We ask you for help. Will you be willing to help our military to build up if we allied with you?

Sultan Nubriyah the Great

 

[Sheep]

'How, exactly, is the alliance giving power to America, hm? If you can answer that correctly, then I will be amazed.'

The thing is Jason you have just proven to the world that America is going to get power. It is an alliance. Alliances lead to wars. You have just started a build up that will most likely lead to war.

 

[naervod]

I do not see how the Americans gain more power because of this. They trade as one nation. That means if the ATG chose to the whole group could have whatever agreements it wanted to with any nation. The wealth from trade is distributed among the nations so one nation is not too powerful. Also, it will not give the power of the world to America, because if fair trade occurs, which it will, the Americans will gain just as much as the nations of the world receive from them.

 

[naervod]

To: Arabia
From: Egypt

We are fine with you joining the Iron Fist. However, we still have to wait for the approval of Zululand and Ethiopia.

 

[Oruc]

Nope!

 

[Sheep]

To both the Asian alliance and the Iron Fist Alliance

We will join one of you. However the better deal will win the day.

Sultan Nubriyah the Great.

 

[erez87]

to Arabia:
The better deal? we won't pay you for joining.
You are welcome to join, say Yes, and your in the alliance.
We will welcome you to the Asian alliance.

 

[Dexter]

To: Arabia
From: The USA
We are growing increasingly concerned by your current actions. The ATG is not a military alliance only a trade alliance, the FWA is a military alliance which is based in America, do not confuse the two.
We have also not threatened Arabia in any way, in fact the complete opposite, we wanted to trade and grow prosperous alongside your nation. Therefore we cannot understand why you have called on help from your neighbours, I sense a deepseated paranoia coming from Arabia and one I fear will only lead to conflict and unrest.
Yours,
John W.Thomson, First President of the United States of America

 

[naervod]

The Iron Fist will help Arabia improve it's military and make it a stronger power. They will share training and field doctrines with each other and all in all cooperate to achieve African and Middle Eastern Power.

 

[Sheep]

We would sign a free trad treaty with your nation in the WTO. However not with the ATG and not as a neutral nation.

The alliances are getting too much and Arabia is at the crossroads between the Asians and the Fists. Arabia would suffer either way. We need to defend ourselves and the only way to do this is to get friends.

 

[Sheep]

The Arabic Confederation will then join the Iron Fist. On the premise though that the they will not stand in the way of the Arabic Confdderation's planned moves.

Come onto AIM Naevrod I need to talk to you.

 

[erez87]

to Arabia:
Joining the Iron Fist is not making friends. It's making enemies with all the nations of the world exapt 4.

 

[Sheep]

The Iron Fist is giving us a better deal. Futhermore your actions prove you to be the agressor not they. We will not fall for your actions any longer. The Arabic Confderation will not alolow Chinese control over the world any more than American control.

 

[naervod]

We are glad Arabia made the right decision.

OOC: Sheep, I am sorry, but I have to go now so I can't come on AIM. PM me later and I will check tonight or tomorrow morning.

 

[Dexter]

The Harold Davis Report

Noted American Economist Harold Davis has compiled a report listing the countries with the most prosperous economies in the world. The report lists nations economies as Very Prosperous, Prosperous, Stable, Depression and Recession. The order has also been worked in the order of which nations will most likely improve their economies in their respective brackets.


Most Prosperous Economies

Very Prosperous
1. United States of America
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Prosperous
2. Russia
3. Andes
4. Egypt
5. France
6. NHC
7. Iroquis
8. Madagascar
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Stable
9. Aztecea
10. Arab Confederation
11. China
12. India
13. Rome
14. England
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Depression
15. Zulu Empire
16. Ireland
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Recession
17. Portugal
18. Germany
19. Nordic Republic
20. Aboriginie
21. United States of Northeastern Asia
22. Philipenes
23. Korea

The report shows that American and Mediterranean nations are currently enjoying the most economic growth. While warring European nations are currently suffering in deep depression, the notable exceptions being France, Russia and England. Although Portugal, Germany and the Nordic Republic are both suffering economically because of the war and events before it (the strains of military build-up).
American nations, such the USA, the NHC and Andes have enjoyed massive economic boosts thanks to the ATG system which is helping their economies flourish. Russia's sheer size alone is ethe main contribute to the growth of their economy, it's masses of resources have meant that it has been easily able to secure trade and business around the world.
Egypt has also been at the centre of an massive economic boost, the change of government in the country and the joining in alliance with the African powers has allowed Egypt to secure the extremely lucrative Mediterranean trading contracts which it sorely needed.
In the far-east things have been difficult. Many of the far-eastern nations are struggling terribly which recession and economic uncertainty. China is currently the only nation there which has the chance to escape this because of it's strong connections with international powers.
While in the middle-east things have been stagnate, Arabia has recently opened the WTO which looks like it might be able to secure Arabia further international trade to boost it's economy and allow it to compete with it's neighbours.
Overall the world is heavily divided, there are eight nations which are enjoying massive prosperity while many other nations have struggled with recession due to war and other problems. The current economic situation is meaing there is alot of uncertainty in the world about where many nations will be heading.

OOC: The list was worked out by using the information regarding economies on the first page of the RTOR2 thread. The order in which nations with the same economy level were sorted was by placing nations in the order of those I felt most likely to increase their economy in the short-term and long-term.
This nothing too serious I just got bored and needed to pass some time until the TV gets good...

 

[Sheep]

The Arab Confederation has released a arrest warrant for the American known as Harold Davis. His lies on the future of the Arab Confederation have been called for the death penalty.