Return to Roots NES 2

[Warman17]

A few years ago the first Caravel was equipped to sail across the ocean. The spainish helped in the design and told them of the New World. The Romans wanted to travel themselves instead of depending on the Spainish. the first ship set sail from the Roman port of Syracuse. They resupplied in Spain and set sail to South America.

*Spainish American colony*3 months later

The 7 ships entered the port of New Lisbon. It had been a total of 91 days. They were pleased to be in friendly waters. They packed up with only a little trade. They would soon travel westward. From there they came in contact with a ship. They sent a message over to it.

Messages:

To New Holland

We are the Romans from europe. We have come to open trade routes with the peoples we come in contact with. How would you like to open a trade route with our prosperous nation?

 

[Yomin_Carr]

Abor, Aboriginian Capital


Recent elections in Aboriginia had overwhelmingly supported the continuation of Minister Djib II for his decisive negotiations with India. He had been pressured to take a new name because of his continued election, and so he took the name Indus. Minister Indus now addressed the Senate, as their head of state.

"Aboriginian Representatives. Recently our entire nation, our entire worldoutlook was changed, forever. A sailing ship from the nation of India discovered our corner of the world. The rest, as they say, is history."

"I stand before you today to tell you of our new plans for strength. Our army and navy have been growing in size since we contacted India. Now, with our new Dark Ages technology, we prepare to upgrade these new forces when their growth is finished. After talks with the Indian military advisors, who even now train our armies for strength, we have realized the inefficiency of our education system. Using our new advances, we've decided to work on improving the minds of our children, so that they may better serve the expanded Aboriginia. Aboriginan Representatives, we are strong! United in resolve, strength, and mind, we will improve the new world to the north, and help our friends, India!"

A storm of applause filled the chamber, and continued, unhalted for half an hour.


OOC:

Orders:

Colonies:

-Colonists head to the southwest to colonize New Zealand.
-New Guinea colony begins construction of short range sailing fleet to encourage trade among colonies and Aboriginia

Army

-Expansion of army and navy through use of rewarded drafting and population expansion continued
-Incorporation of Dark Ages technology into newly created units

Domestic

-Emphasis on education increased, Indian influenced, however

Technology

-Research slowed as Dark Ages technology incorporated into Aboriginian life as a whole

 

[erez87]

THE CHINESE DEMOCRACY
Today another try of revolting in southern china as been stoped.
Orders have been given to build new cities in south asia, but NOT in malesia. the philipines should be checked for deases, befor we will settle them.
A majot another update to education.

In other news Chines jews have grown to power ones again, but Chines leaders (jews too) have desided to continue make china without a controling religion (or else we will have shas... never mind...)

To japan:
We wish to tade lands, you asian lands, for our korean lands, would you accept?

Another things the goverment have strated work on where "secret plans" that no one still knows.

ORDERS IN SHORT:
1) grow education more.
2) settle in south asia, but not in malesia.
3) check if there are unwanted deases in philipines.
4*) ask japan for land trade (their asia "colonies" for korea).

 

[Kennelly]

To:China
From:India

We agree to rejoin the Asian Alliance.Our history is made up by 200 years of war and 3000 years of peace and peace shall it be for the next 3000 years.We will also sell you the location of the new people to the south for 10 tons of gold.

To:Aborigines

We congratulate you on your reelection and invite you to join the Asian alliance,consisting of India and yet to you unknown nations of China,Mongolia and Japan.

EQ,what happened to my settlers send north to TAS,OMS and KRA?

Orders:-get reports from the settlers send northwards with an 1/5 of the army as escort
-send another bunch of settlers along with 1/5 of the army to Sumatra and Java
-2/5 patrol western borders,1/5 Russian border
-build universities and schools all over India so the education level becomes good
-30% of money for infrastructur,30% for military and 40% for science (esp. new age)
-extra money from China is used to expand navy to very large

 

[IceEye]

To: Romans
From: New Holland Confederacy
We would gladly open trade with you. We are however in no position to send trading ships to you as most of our ships are away elsewhere. *hint*
We will however welcome your ships to our harbours as long as you do not settle in south america with any colonists. But ofcourse romans are welcome to live in New Holland.

 

[IceEye]

To: Rome
From: New Holland
We will not let you build catholic churches in our nation though.

 

[Yomin_Carr]

From Aboriginia
To India

We would be glad to join your alliance. Only by uniting can we survive against other more aggressive nations.

 

[SKILORD]

The Russian Navy is Spending this turn training in Ocean Crossing and Building up it's size.

 

[Warman17]

Them ships returened to Rome with news. A nation called New Holland had formed next to the Spainish colony. They had adapted to a form of Protostent Chritianity. A few prople in Rome found this to their liking but most stayed Catholic. Most protostents went to live in New Holland rather then recieve prosocution from their neighbors.

Other people were to occupied by the war. Many wanted justice for the attack on the African colony. The army was hurt and needed more money for expansion. The Zulu would pay. It would be a three part plan.

Orders:

Upgrade Army to Very Large

Send 2/3 of Army to Spainish/Zulu border
Retake the African colony

Navy will gain control of the sea
Plunder Zulu coast

Messages:

TO Spain:

Now is the time to destroy the Zulu scum. I am sensding an Army to your African colony to launch attacks against the Zulu.

To Zulu:

Return the Roman land back to us at once or face the consequences of Roman might.

 

[Admiral Super]

The Incan Empire is saddened to see their former ally attacking them. Our Entire armed forces in the city is to Defend bravely and a DPP is requested of the Iriquois Empire. We wish to use the Aztec's channel and wish to see how much it would cost percisely.

We make a mad dash wit the settlers to the south to avoid getting blocked off from expansion.

 

[Angelscotboi]

gone

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

-OOC-

People have been asking me when the next age will come. The answer is tomorrow. Who will advance? That's for me to know and you to find out.

-global events-

New England Confederacy fleet defeated in the final battle of the War of the Gulf! Size goes down a level.

Roman forces advance against the Zulu! As the Zulu army has not yet been upgraded to the Dark Ages Roman forces successfully pushed the Zulu halfway out of their colony only to find that the Zulu had burned everything of use behind them as they retreated. Everywhere the Romans have recaptured has been ruined by the Zulu.

Massive population growth in Russia has caused many people to move east.

New party arises in Rome! This party calling themselves the Empirelists say that all Europe is destined to be under Roman rule and are calling for Europeon domination of Rome. many former militarists are joining this new party.

-NPC Messages-

To: Incan Confederation
From: the Aztec Empire

We will give you unlimited use of our canal for your colony of Haiti.

To: Incan Confederation
From: the Iriquois Empire

We do not wish for an alliance with you as the Aztecs are enough allies for us.

-World Map-

 

[Yomin_Carr]

Minister Indus surveyed the fleet that lay docked in the sea below him. Upgraded and enhanced, it now was comparable to some of the other nations of the world. The army that lay dispersed across Aborginia was larger too, and more powerful, thanks to the other members of the Asian Alliance. And Aborginia itself was different, undergoing continued government changes to better accomdate the world's ways. Indus smiled, as a group of ships, flanked by caravels, sailed out of the harbor towards another new destination, further expanding Aborginia's influence...


Orders:

Colonies

New Guinea and the northern island of New Zealand are exempted from the normal drafting requirements, so as to promote their own growth.

New Guinea begins construction of a harbor to house the Aborginian fleet.

Small group of settlers sails east to Fijian islands

Military

Navy expansion continues

Army expansion halts, and moves to guarding colonies and mainland

Domestic

Education retooling continued. Emphasis placed on the sciences

Research picks up again, hoping to give an advantage to the Aborgian navy

Diplomacy


To Asian Alliance Members (India, China, Japan, Mongolia)
From Aboriginia

Greeting comrades! Aborginia has been considering our new alliance, and has thought of a way to properly share the advantages that each of our mighty civilizations have.

The islands north of Aboriginia are unoccupied, but are currently claimed by Asian Alliance members. If India or China would be willing to give up a small island in that area, we could make it the "capital" of the Asian Alliance. If we built this Asian capital, we could place a university, a trade center, a military training center, etc. All of our great nations will benefit, and the cost will be negligible. Our alliance would stand the test of time, and win out over the other alliances through any conflict.

I await your response, my friends.

 

[AnarchyRulz]

I quit.

 

[Warman17]

why?

 

[Warman17]

In Africa the battles were fast and swift but the Army had only conqured half the colony. When many believed would be a fast recapture of the colony now seemed it would take a little longer. As a result the elections of 800 turned out to be a crushing defeat for the militants. A new party broke away from them. The Empirelists as the called themselves were like the militants in most ways. But they wanted a more local reason for miloitary power.

The stage of the 850 to 810 elections was the recapture of the Roman colony. As people saw after 50 years that the army had not yet done their job they figured "Why should we care about this stupid colony". As a result the 800 election became huge leap for the Empirelists. In a stunning victory of for the Sicilian goveneor and Crete govenor for the Empirelists it would seem the senate elections would bring the militant party to it's knees. In the end Sicily, Crete, and upper Italty the party gained huge amounts of votes. By the end of the counting the Empirelists had closed the gap with the militants. the tommarow and Pax Romana parties also came back.

50 Seats- Militants
30 Seats- Empirelists
20 Seats- Commercial
10- Tommarow
10- Pax Romana

With this many seats the Empirelists ordered the end of the african war. After a long debaste lasting months the vote was put in. 75-45. The truth was many Tommarow and Commercial members loved the war. The economy was booming and the war helped workshops and shipyards. Technologies were being developed to help the war. They loved it.

As the poloticans fought over in Rome people were fighting for a diffrent reason in Africa

*African Colony, City of Mauna*

The city laid in ruins. The Zulu had abandoned and destroyed it. Thousands had died from starvation, the fields were ruined. Is was like this almost everywhere. The Roman citizens had told of horrible stories. The Zulu raped young women. They burned down homes. They killed and enslaved Romans. The Africans were treated like royalty. They were told they were "Free". They had no clue what they meant. Some were forced to leave. Others fought back. After a couple of years the Zulu left the city alone untill a few months ago when the Romans got near. The same thing happened again.

***

News of this got to Rome quickly. It was called the "Rape of Mauna" Patricians everywhere heard about it. In local papers(only the rich had them). It was passed by word of mouth. People were just shocked. This in effect led to the second and third votes against ending the war in 897 and 893. It led to the great Militant victory of 790, gaining back votes from the Pax Romana and Tommarow parties. Again in 783 they tried to end the war but the story was told again and a shocked 90-30 vote was seen, even the Empirelists voted against it. It was amazing. But this party was gaining power and the story was fading quickly. The war may not last a lot longer.

In 787 the Tommarow party had a huge come back as the militant party sided with them for the better development of weapons.

Orders:

Technology:
-Research new Age

Navy:
-Discontinue Pilliging the coast
-Instead attack Coastal enemy positions and continue to attack any enemy ship.

Army:
-Continue push into the colony
-Send more troops to Africa
-Send best leaders to fight Zulu in Africa

Other:
-Send more supplies to Army and to rebuild the colony via the Navy

Mesasages:

To Spain:

Please send supplies, troops, ships anything you have to destroy the Zulu. Even declare war yourself and gain a larger African colony.

 

[uknemesis]

Okay, so somehow, the Vikings send 10,000 men to my coast without me seeing, and continue to supply them(despite the fact that my navy would hunt them down)?

And they take most of Iceland, too?!

So a tiny navy has somehow beaten a medium one, and the British are well known for being the foremost naval power(when it comes to training etc) in the entire world.

Strange.

Britain's only real defence is the sea, it always has been. Our army is okay, but the navy has always been Britain's lifeline, just like the winter for Russia.

As for our move into Canada, somehow this has also halted. Every other nation in the world seems to expand at an alarming rate, but Britain, the power which ruled a third of the world in real history, cannot take much at all when it comes to invading some little Canadian people and settling their nation...

Do you see where I'm leading? This NES isn't equal, and the combat needs some kind of system, even if it's just a dice roll! As for the British Isles being invaded, I find it ridiculous, yes the Vikings did invade us once in rl, but that was when the Royal Navy hadn't even been formed. Once it had, it had a reputation for defeating most other opponents.

I'm trying not to whinge, but to see combat that is so unbelievable(like how the hell did Rome's army get to Zululand in one turn?!) amongst other flaws.

To be honest, I think a Return To Roots NES should be like the first - simple story telling with each player ruling their nation, not really having to give orders except to respond to international events.

I mean, I only have the time to come on about two or three times a week, and due to that my nation suffers, despite the fact the orders ARE ALWAYS THE GODDAMNED SAME! It is for everyone, expand the army, expand the navy, reach the next age, and maybe an attack or colonisation thrown in somewhere.

Now this has gone on far longer than I expected, so I'll finish on this note:

This needs either structure(like a decent combat system), or none at all(like the first RTOR), not a mix, since the combat system in this one and the failure of UKNES4 and 6 have proven those REALLY don't work!

Nemesis

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

I guess that was kind of ridiculous. I admit my mistake and will cancel that whole thing.

As for Rome getting to Zululand, this is 100 YEARS we are talking about. They should be able to get there by then. That kind of thing will decrease sooner or later when time stops flying by. (somewhere around 500 AD)

As for international events i have stopped giving constant random events which i agree with you on. The Privateers and the raids on Europe's coast however WERE surpirse attacks ordered by a player as have been other "random" events.

Where is the simple story-telling? well i tell you this: starting from the begining NO ONE would tell stories of battles like originally in the rules. Only Jason did and that was one battle. So i just gave it up. Now instead i take no one's sides and think of it realistically. I admit that some things are not realistic, no one's infallible. Just point those out to me and i will fix them. Also, people are telling stories unlike other NESs where you just give someone orders and do diplomacy. Look at Imsw, Yomin Carr, and Warman, they are all telling stories, as are other people. This NES is story on a forum of board games called NESs.

Of course, if other non whiny people out there want a combat system i will be happy to create one that involves army sizes and dice.

nemisis on a final note: IF no one liked the way this NES is run then why are there over 600 posts on it while none of yours go over 300?

 

[AnarchyRulz]

DELETED

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

he has had a lot more practice