RFCE Leaders

[AbsintheRed]

I'd really like to have the one whose image you've posted (not the new Maria Eleonora), so I'll be really happy if you send it to me when you can

Sure, but I'm not sure when will it be...
I have an early version dl-ed, but it's not as good as the one in the picture
Btw, where do you plan to use her? Also as Margaret?

 

[AbsintheRed]

Oh, this Maria Elenora LH is wonderful! She looks vaguely burgundian to me but I'm not sure there's been any notable female burgundian leader.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_of_Burgundy
What do you think?

 

[Opera]

I did found her but thought she didn't fit the bill. She reigned only for 5 years (but is, afai could find, the only non-consort duchess of burgundy). But I won't oppose her being added

 

[AbsintheRed]

Yeah, she don't really fits. But unfortunately she is the only real duchess, all the others I looked up were only countesses...
So we either use the LH as Mary, or find another civ where the LH more or less fits.
Btw she was fairly important indirectly, because her early death led to the total dividement of the Burgundian Duchy
Also she was the wife of Maximilian I, this might be fun as he is already in the mod

By marrying Archduke Maximilian of Austria, son of the Archduke of Austria, she became Archduchess Mary of Austria. In this way the Low Countries came to the Habsburgs', initiating two centuries of contention between France and the Habsburgs, later of Spain, then of Austria, for their possession, which climaxed in the War of the Spanish Succession, 1701–1714.

 

[Leoreth]

She is also very close to Charles the Bold, and it would be quite weird to include someone as a leader whose reign ended the Burgundian sovereignty.

Sure, but I'm not sure when will it be...
I have an early version dl-ed, but it's not as good as the one in the picture
Btw, where do you plan to use her? Also as Margaret?

Thanks. Don't know exactly what to use her for, I just like to collect good LHs and decent female medieval LHs are rare

 

[FakeShady]

[*]added maria ii as late portugal leader

Spoiler :

oh my, maria ii is hot!! I wanna rule under her omg!!!

edit: NO this is not a troll, dont be lame. just praising the modders for their work

 

[ezzlar]

Karl XII would be fit for a Swedish leader after Gustav Vasa. He was very aggressive...

 

[AbsintheRed]

Karl XII would be fit for a Swedish leader after Gustav Vasa. He was very aggressive...

Yeah, he is also an option for a 2nd swedish leader
Gustav Adolph is the other worthy candidate IMO

 

[AbsintheRed]

I just like to collect good LHs and decent female medieval LHs are rare

Yeah, me too
And indeed they are rare
But also hard to find a decent place for them...
Do you have any ideas where to use the blonde duchess if not for Burgundy?

 

[3Miro]

AbsintheRed: when do you think you can be done with the map, provinces, Lithuania and whatever other XML? I am working on the new stability and I need the provinces, there is only so much that I can do that doesn't involve any of those now.

 

[AbsintheRed]

I'm finally over my last exam tomorrow 10:00 CET
I will start to do some serious work on these after that
How far should we go on the map changes?

 

[3Miro]

I'm finally over my last exam tomorrow 10:00 CET
I will start to do some serious work on these after that
How far should we go on the map changes?

I know you want to change the Carpathian basin. We also need to change the marches around Lithuania or otherwise they will have no chance. I will change Vince (remove the island and change the starting position), this needs to be done in both Python and WB. Lets also finalize the list of Provinces, I will PM you a file where you need to put the names (in addition to the Zones.txt file). I will work on stability as much as I can today and tomorrow, but mostly on Friday and Saturday. Saturday I also need to redo the UHV conditions to use the provinces.

Give me the map, provinces and Lithuania tomorrow or Friday. That way I can keep on working. You can clean up art and XML pedia afterwards.

Hopefully we can get new version on Sunday, however, it will be less stable then the current Beta.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Ok, I will upload everything to you on Friday

 

[Leoreth]

Yeah, me too
And indeed they are rare
But also hard to find a decent place for them...
Do you have any ideas where to use the blonde duchess if not for Burgundy?

Well, Margaret would've been my first idea as well. I've also thought about Empress Matilda of England or maybe even Adelaide of Italy (she was regent of the HRE for a short period), both both are too minor to deserve being in this mod.

 

[RRRaskolnikov]

She is also very close to Charles the Bold, and it would be quite weird to include someone as a leader whose reign ended the Burgundian sovereignty.

Agreed! That's because Charles had not a male heir that the duchy died (Salic law, Mary couldn't be "duc"). Maximilian got most of it because he was Mary's husband and most of the duchy was imperial land while the french king Louis XI took back the french duchy itself, duchy which was previously given to Philip (the bold) in apanage.

My 2 cents

 

[AbsintheRed]

So, back to the leaders, I plan to make another update soon
Any suggestions regarding the leaders already in?
Or any ideas where to add that blonde duchess?

I plan to add Gustav Adolph or Karl XII as a second swedish leader, Ivan Asev as a second bulgarian leader, and updating some of the current art (lithuanian leaders, maybe Barbarossa)
And still thinking about switching Haakon to Margaret...

 

[yogiebere]

I know this is just aesthetics and I can't really help at all, but Frederick Barbarossa is really really ugly, could his LH be improved at all?

 

[AbsintheRed]

Check the first page of this thread

Never touched the bg of Abu Bakr, and IMO his clothes were a little blurry and plain before
Barbarossa should definitely be changed, but I didn't find a perfect replacement yet
Maybe one of these can be used as a base:

Spoiler :

 

[TheCzech]

Looking back at the LH's, I think the 1st one would be great but change the colours around; don't have that bright pink and bright blue for example.

 

[AbsintheRed]

I'd really like to have the one whose image you've posted (not the new Maria Eleonora), so I'll be really happy if you send it to me when you can

Unfortunately I still didn't get an improved version since
I'm not even sure anymore that she will be finished
Nevertheless I uploaded the version I have: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BBVPJ3DU