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RFCEurope 1.0

Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall: Europe' started by 3Miro, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. AbsintheRed

    AbsintheRed Deity

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    I wouldn't say complete
    But you are right, 1.0 was a big milestone in the life of the mod :)
    Thanks, on behalf of all the other modders too
    Quite a few people contributed to RFCE through the ages

    ;)
     
  2. AbsintheRed

    AbsintheRed Deity

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    It's the Round Church (Golden Church) of Preslav
    Caused some tensions between orthodox nations when it was built in the 9-10th century
    3Miro wanted to have the wonder with this bonuses ingame, and I don't mind it
    This is from an earlier thread:
     
  3. AbsintheRed

    AbsintheRed Deity

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    HHG:
    Are you sure you want to start on adding all those lines to the XML files?
    Code:
    <German>
    	<Text>Katholischer Missionar:Katholischen Missionars:Katholischen Missionar:Katholischen Missionar:Katholische Missionare:Katholischen Missionare:Katholischen Missionaren:Katholischen Missionare</Text>
    	<Gender>male:male:male:male:male:male:male:male</Gender>
    	<Plural>0:0:0:0:1:1:1:1</Plural>
    </German>
    I'm not against it at all if you want to do it
    But it's a huge work, for a very small benefit
     
  4. HolyHandGrenade

    HolyHandGrenade Holy Pin

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    That's fine, for the files I sent you it's done, and this was the major part and for those types of replacement I use "cygwin - vim"
     
  5. horst_fux

    horst_fux Chieftain

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    Thanks AbsinteRed, this makes sense. I have to add Simeon was victorious and was even proclaimed 'emperor of bulgars and greeks' at some point, with plans of capturing Constantinople before his death. Therefore, big shift in the balance of power between Bulgaria and Bizantium. So if the Round Church is symbol of power, maybe stability bonus instead of sciense bonus will make more sense? This also makes sense in context of caesaropapism.
    Also, I'd like to suggest one more bulgarian World Wonder - Boyana Church http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyana_Church
    It could give sciense/culture boost instead of the Round Church, as it is seen by some as one of the first early-renaissance pieces of art. It could connect with the Faith Points Bulgarian goal, instead of making me produce 4-5 great prophets to gain FP.
     
  6. AbsintheRed

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    +: We have few Orthodox wonders, and not that much early wonders. It would more or less fit the Bulgarian UHV as well
    -: We already have more than enough churches as wonders, and have enough wonders generally in the mod

    I'm not sure, it does tempting to add another directly orthodox wonder. Currently we only have 2...
    Maybe if we can properly split (and expand) the bonuses of the Round Church?
    Merijn, what do you say?
     
  7. alpav

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  8. horst_fux

    horst_fux Chieftain

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    It can't be too bad to have many religious wonders in a medieval mod, just like in Sword of Islam. But if I have to choose between the Round Church and Boyana church, I prefer the second. It is way more famous, and it fits better the bulgarian UHV. As Bulgaria, the player conquers Constantinople and collapses Byzantium way too easy, for the Round Church to represent anything historical.
    I agree there could be a little more orthodoxal or just eastern european wonders.
     
  9. HolyHandGrenade

    HolyHandGrenade Holy Pin

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    see log-file
     

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  10. urban

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    trying to think of non-church orthodox wonders. How about something about Cyril and Methodius? It could be their journey (like Magellan's is a wonder), or maybe the Preslav Literary School, where Wiki says Cyrillic was developed. Or it could just be Cyrillic itself? Or maybe Glagolitic would give one early bonus, and cyrillic another later one?
     
  11. HolyHandGrenade

    HolyHandGrenade Holy Pin

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    Anything wrong with this update?
     
  12. AbsintheRed

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    Have a little patience ;)
    I already merged most of your translations into my WIP version
    The XML changes will be up with the next update

    Btw, you renamed TXT_KEY_VICTORY_HISTORICAL to Historien-Sieg
    Sieg is victory, right? The word victory shouldn't be part of that text
     
  13. HolyHandGrenade

    HolyHandGrenade Holy Pin

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    For all other languages you are right, but I checked the vanilla Version and there all german translations have the extension "-Sieg", and btw. this is the only form which makes sense when looking on the resulting sentences
     
  14. AbsintheRed

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    These are may vanilla victory texts
    I didn't check the end sentences TBH
    But I'm not sure why would it be different for historical victory

    Spoiler :
    <TEXT>
    <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_SCORE</Tag>
    <English>Score</English>
    <French>
    <Text>Score</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </French>
    <German>
    <Text>Punktestand</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </German>
    <Italian>
    <Text>A punti</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Italian>
    <Spanish>
    <Text>por puntos</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Spanish>
    </TEXT>
    <TEXT>
    <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_TIME</Tag>
    <English>Time</English>
    <French>
    <Text>Temps</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </French>
    <German>
    <Text>Zeit</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </German>
    <Italian>
    <Text>A tempo</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Italian>
    <Spanish>
    <Text>por tiempo</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Spanish>
    </TEXT>
    <TEXT>
    <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_CONQUEST</Tag>
    <English>Conquest</English>
    <French>
    <Text>Conquête</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </French>
    <German>
    <Text>Eroberung</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </German>
    <Italian>
    <Text>Conquista</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Italian>
    <Spanish>
    <Text>por conquista</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Spanish>
    </TEXT>
    <TEXT>
    <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_DOMINATION</Tag>
    <English>Domination</English>
    <French>
    <Text>Domination</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </French>
    <German>
    <Text>Vorherrschaft</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </German>
    <Italian>
    <Text>Dominazione</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Italian>
    <Spanish>
    <Text>por dominación</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Spanish>
    </TEXT>
    <TEXT>
    <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_CULTURAL</Tag>
    <English>Cultural</English>
    <French>
    <Text>Culture</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </French>
    <German>
    <Text>Kulturell</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </German>
    <Italian>
    <Text>Culturale</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Italian>
    <Spanish>
    <Text>cultural</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Spanish>
    </TEXT>
    <TEXT>
    <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_SPACE_RACE</Tag>
    <English>Space Race</English>
    <French>
    <Text>Course vers l'espace</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </French>
    <German>
    <Text>Weltraumrennen</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </German>
    <Italian>
    <Text>Corsa spaziale</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Italian>
    <Spanish>
    <Text>por carrera espacial</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Spanish>
    </TEXT>
    <TEXT>
    <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_DIPLOMATIC</Tag>
    <English>Diplomatic</English>
    <French>
    <Text>Diplomatie</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </French>
    <German>
    <Text>Diplomatie</Text>
    <Gender>Male</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </German>
    <Italian>
    <Text>Diplomatica</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Italian>
    <Spanish>
    <Text>diplomática</Text>
    <Gender>Female</Gender>
    <Plural>0</Plural>
    </Spanish>
    </TEXT>
     
  15. HolyHandGrenade

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    This is strange - my vanilla TextInfos_objects.xml shows

    Code:
        <TEXT>
            <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_TIME</Tag>
            <English>Time</English>
            <French>
                <Text>Temps</Text>
                <Gender>Male</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </French>
            <German><Text>Wertungs-Sieg:Wertungs-Sieges:Wertungs-Sieg:Wertungs-Sieg</Text><Gender>male:male:male:male</Gender><Plural>0:0:0:0</Plural></German>
            <Italian>
                <Text>A tempo</Text>
                <Gender>Male</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Italian>
            <Spanish>
                <Text>por tiempo</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Spanish>
        </TEXT>
        <TEXT>
            <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_CONQUEST</Tag>
            <English>Conquest</English>
            <French>
                <Text>Conquête</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </French>
            <German><Text>Eroberungs-Sieg:Eroberungs-Sieges:Eroberungs-Sieg:Eroberungs-Sieg</Text><Gender>male:male:male:male</Gender><Plural>0:0:0:0</Plural></German>
            <Italian>
                <Text>Conquista</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Italian>
            <Spanish>
                <Text>por conquista</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Spanish>
        </TEXT>
        <TEXT>
            <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_DOMINATION</Tag>
            <English>Domination</English>
            <French>
                <Text>Domination</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </French>
            <German><Text>Vorherrschafts-Sieg:Vorherrschafts-Sieges:Vorherrschafts-Sieg:Vorherrschafts-Sieg</Text><Gender>male:male:male:male</Gender><Plural>0:0:0:0</Plural></German>
            <Italian>
                <Text>Dominazione</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Italian>
            <Spanish>
                <Text>por dominación</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Spanish>
        </TEXT>
        <TEXT>
            <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_CULTURAL</Tag>
            <English>Cultural</English>
            <French>
                <Text>Culture</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </French>
            <German><Text>Kultur-Sieg:Kultur-Sieges:Kultur-Sieg:Kultur-Sieg</Text><Gender>male:male:male:male</Gender><Plural>0:0:0:0</Plural></German>
            <Italian>
                <Text>Culturale</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Italian>
            <Spanish>
                <Text>cultural</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Spanish>
        </TEXT>
        <TEXT>
            <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_SPACE_RACE</Tag>
            <English>Space Race</English>
            <French>
                <Text>Course vers l'espace</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </French>
            <German><Text>Weltraum-Sieg:Weltraum-Sieges:Weltraum-Sieg:Weltraum-Sieg</Text><Gender>male:male:male:male</Gender><Plural>0:0:0:0</Plural></German>
            <Italian>
                <Text>Corsa spaziale</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Italian>
            <Spanish>
                <Text>por carrera espacial</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Spanish>
        </TEXT>
        <TEXT>
            <Tag>TXT_KEY_VICTORY_DIPLOMATIC</Tag>
            <English>Diplomatic</English>
            <French>
                <Text>Diplomatie</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </French>
            <German><Text>Diplomatie-Sieg:Diplomatie-Sieges:Diplomatie-Sieg:Diplomatie-Sieg</Text><Gender>male:male:male:male</Gender><Plural>0:0:0:0</Plural></German>
            <Italian>
                <Text>Diplomatica</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Italian>
            <Spanish>
                <Text>diplomática</Text>
                <Gender>Female</Gender>
                <Plural>0</Plural>
            </Spanish>
        </TEXT>
     
  16. horst_fux

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    This is a great idea! Only, I see them as a project, not a wonder.
    I think it is a quite important event, that slavic languages in general became equal to hebrew, latin and greek, breaking the trilingual dogma. Such a project could give bonus to all orthodoxal civs. Maybe temples and monasteries give culture only after the Project is built? Before that, greek is used in churches, so no culture. Or maybe even: before the project is built, religious buildings generate german/byzantine/papal/... culture, to represent their influence through religion?

    PS: Damn, the more I think about the last option, the cooler it sounds. Kind of like the American UP in RFC.
     
  17. ZachScape

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    I'm having a lot of trouble getting the game to initially load. I know my main problem must be that I am using neither steam nor a disc, as I order Civ IV Complete from Amazon earlier today.

    I extracted the files, following the example of those who use steam, to:
    C:\Program Files\2K Games\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Mods.

    From there, I copied the worldbuilder save to Public Maps. It didn't work. Removed it from public maps. Still didn't work.

    If anybody has any ideas of how to get this mod (one of the reasons I bought Civ IV again) to work, I would be sincerely grateful.

    Thanks,
    Zach

    EDIT: Got it to work. I learned today not to assume that companies do things if they don't have to... like update their games even when they re-release them as a combined-expansion pack. O'well. Time to have some fun!
     
  18. RenaissanceFan

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    I know I've been hammering this subject again and again, but the Syrian trio of Tarsus, Antioch and Aleppo are still wrecking each other...

    Would it unbalance if it was added, let's say, one food resource for each city?


    EDIT #1: Also, is there any particular reason a pop-1 Cyrene (health surplus of 3-5) ALWAYS gets the plague?
    EDIT #2: Belgrade is in province 'Hungary'?!
     
  19. AdrienIer

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    And it's still true today with the Syrian crisis :goodjob:
     
  20. Spirictum

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    About Belgrade I'm quite curious to understand if this is a correction from Beta 13, a misplacement on 1.0, or an angry player who infiltrated on the making of the map and put his beloved Belgrade on Hungary, only to stop those pesky revolutionaries that keep wanting independence on Serbia (like those on Barcelona, Jerusalem, Oran, Tetouan, Syria)
     

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