Rhye's Catapult

[Blasphemous]

One way to give new civs a bit of a chance is to start them off with a few free turns of golden age without it counting as far as the costs of future golden ages. It stands to reason that a nation that just made itself independent is full of energy and vitality and works more effectively for a while.

As to mod vs. scenario, I would agree with Aeon that this is basically a scenario it if weren't for one important factor: the way people use it. The way I see it, a scenario is meant to expand on a game in a way that gives you a small number of highly limited "variant" games. Civ, being a game which owes its success to endless replayability, is thus by default based on non-scenarios. This mod here, which I will still call Catapult for now, is intended to expand the game in a less limiting way, allowing it to stay almost infinitely replayable. The modifications run deep and yet the surface remains similar. That is the idea, even ideology, behind the project. The important factor is usage: this project is intended to offer something that most will play instead of the regular game, not in addition to it, as a break from it for a limited experience. Remember what the poll for RoC gave as the "best" option - "I can't play Civ without it!".
This is a game modification, not just a scenario.

 

[V. Soma]

Jerusalem in Egyptian:

The name of Jerusalem we read as the Aarru-salem or fields of peace, equivalent to Aarru-hetep or Sekhet-hetep, the fields of peace in Egyptian. Jerusalem below was the localized representative of Jerusalem above, the Aarru-salem or Aarru-hetep on the mount of peace in the heaven of the never-setting stars. The burden of Jewish prophecy, which Tumed out so terribly misleading for those who were ignorant of the secret wisdom, is that the vision of this glorious future should be attained on earth; whereas it never had that meaning. But the Hebrew non-initiates came to think it had; they also prophesied as if they thought it had. Thus Jerusalem on earth was to take the place of Jerusalem above, and the Aarru-hetep become the Jeru-salem simply as a mundane locality. Jerusalem is to be rebuilt, and to be called the City of Truth, which had been the Maat upon the mount in the Egyptian eschatology (Zech. i. 16; ii. I, 2, and 10; viii. 3). The bringer of peace is to reTum and build the temple of the Lord, and the counsel of peace is to be between him and the Lord. And “There shall be the seed of peace; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause the remnant of this people to inherit all these things” (Zech. viii. 12), “all these things” being the things predicated of the promised land of the mythos, the fields of peace or gardens of Hetep in the eschatology, the abode of the blessed in Jerusalem above.

 

[Blasphemous]

Jerusalem in Egyptian:

The name of Jerusalem we read as the Aarru-salem or fields of peace, equivalent to Aarru-hetep or Sekhet-hetep, the fields of peace in Egyptian. Jerusalem below was the localized representative of Jerusalem above, the Aarru-salem or Aarru-hetep on the mount of peace in the heaven of the never-setting stars. The burden of Jewish prophecy, which Tumed out so terribly misleading for those who were ignorant of the secret wisdom, is that the vision of this glorious future should be attained on earth; whereas it never had that meaning. But the Hebrew non-initiates came to think it had; they also prophesied as if they thought it had. Thus Jerusalem on earth was to take the place of Jerusalem above, and the Aarru-hetep become the Jeru-salem simply as a mundane locality. Jerusalem is to be rebuilt, and to be called the City of Truth, which had been the Maat upon the mount in the Egyptian eschatology (Zech. i. 16; ii. I, 2, and 10; viii. 3). The bringer of peace is to reTum and build the temple of the Lord, and the counsel of peace is to be between him and the Lord. And “There shall be the seed of peace; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause the remnant of this people to inherit all these things” (Zech. viii. 12), “all these things” being the things predicated of the promised land of the mythos, the fields of peace or gardens of Hetep in the eschatology, the abode of the blessed in Jerusalem above.

What an odd little text. Where is it from?

 

[V. Soma]

Here:

http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache...egyptian+Jerusalem+"&hl=hu&gl=hu&ct=clnk&cd=4

 

[Jaguar]

When a new civ spawns, it's often way ahead in technology and way behind in size/infrastructure. Usually it's also way ahead in army strength because it's given several cutting-edge units to start.

It would be nicer if these huge advantages and disadvantages were softened a little.

 

[Blasphemous]

Here:

Interesting piece (better link). I haven't really managed to figure out where it's coming from as far as purpose. It doesn't sound very historical. It sounds like something between Christian musings about the Israelites and Ancient Egyptian views of Judaism.
Anyhow, I'm not sure how much we should use this as a historical source. The guy who wrote it, Gerald Massey (wiki), was primarily a patriotic English poet, and it sounds like he had some funny beliefs. I don't know what kind of credit he deserves as a historian.

 

[Rossiya]

i wonder when rhye will reveal all...

 

[Winterfell]

A golden age for new civs sounds like a great idea.
About jerusalem - I know almost nothing about ancient egypt. Jerusalem in arabic, the language spoken in egypt(with a small change in dialect), is called Urshalim, or al-quds(The holy).

 

[Rhye]

so what's the name? Aarru-hetep?

 

[V. Soma]

in another source:

...to the gates of the Aarru-Hetep of Egypt, which is the Aarru-Salem, or Jerusalem, of the Hebrew version

so I guess: yes, Aarru-Hetep

 

[Jaguar]

Uh oh, this could be a serious problem.

I'm Greece. I had a defense pact with India and one with Persia. I had open borders with China.

Through no action of my own, these deals are canceled between turns and I declare war on China.

http://apolyton.net/upload/view/5548_Greece.Civ4SavedGame

Here's the save. Just end turn.

 

[strategyonly]

Went to your page listed and then went to download area, it gave me an error message??

 

[V. Soma]

062

Rhye, I sailed along the shores of South America in 1721 ans saw this (pic)

Settlers of Rome, Greece, Mali and Japan standing there... ???
EDIT: and of Germany, too (a tile south of the others)

I also made a save-file of this (if needed).

 

[Bolleque]

In 062 I also had situation that Japanese sent a settler to Philippines and he stayed there for centuries not founding a city.

 

[Rhye]

062

Rhye, I sailed along the shores of South America in 1721 ans saw this (pic)

Settlers of Rome, Greece, Mali and Japan standing there... ???
EDIT: and of Germany, too (a tile south of the others)

I also made a save-file of this (if needed).

I fear this isn't the settlers spam bug.

I think this could have something to do with impassable jungle. Should settlers be excorted by explorers?

 

[Rhye]

In 062 I also had situation that Japanese sent a settler to Philippines and he stayed there for centuries not founding a city.

this is the known bug instead.

 

[Rhye]

Uh oh, this could be a serious problem.

I'm Greece. I had a defense pact with India and one with Persia. I had open borders with China.

Through no action of my own, these deals are canceled between turns and I declare war on China.

http://apolyton.net/upload/view/5548_Greece.Civ4SavedGame

Here's the save. Just end turn.

try reading the logs. China declared war on India, and it triggered your help and canceled your pact with Persia.

 

[strategyonly]

error on your web page when trying to down?? ie:

Not Found
The requested URL /BMPC186_withTutorial.zip was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/1.3.34 Server at rhye.civfanatics.net Port 80

 

[Jaguar]

try reading the logs. China declared war on India, and it triggered your help and canceled your pact with Persia.

Ah. Sorry about that.

 

[Barak]

I have found that after the founding of biology settlers should be able to found cities on jungle squares. Right now we have to use workers to clear the jungle, then settle the city.