[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[SammyKhalifa]

Add to that a Philosophers Quarter - science and culture.

any more districts and they're going to have to find a way to break geometry and add more hexes

 

[Leyrann]

any more districts and they're going to have to find a way to break geometry and add more hexes

But the thing is, it just adds more decisions. They just gotta make sure that districts are limited by population instead of hexes, and then you can decide to focus strongly on one yield or on a mix of yields.

 

[Phrozen]

any more districts and they're going to have to find a way to break geometry and add more hexes

i would make it so the mixed districts get less yields than the single resource districts and probably won't produce GP points of their type or at least not until buildings. Basically trading power for flexibility.

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

i would make it so the mixed districts get less yields than the single resource districts and probably won't produce GP points of their type or at least not until buildings. Basically trading power for flexibility.

Or maybe make those districts available later, and they will replace the old district (fairground : the civilization is unable to build anymore EC and CH but this instead). This could maybe balance the astronomic cost of district in later eras.

 

[Trengilly]

I don't want more districts, I'd just like them to balance the game so that they are all worth building. Right now almost half of them are rarely if ever worth building.

And I sincerely hope there isn't a separate "Water Park" district and that they are just making the Entertainment district buildable on both land and coastal hexes.

 

[eso12por8]

No offense, but this is a game called Civilization 6, not Hellenistic Civilization 6.

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, however I’m not the dev team that decided to go that route since the beginning of Civ VI. I do believe they purposely wanted Hellenic civs from the get-go, so I politely disagree with that assertion as well. I never said I wanted Thrace — just pointing out helmet origin & the fact is Lydian helmets were of that design.

I stated this prior, but Attic Greek City-States have 4 origins, not 3. Lydia is the best option to finish that chapter & finally move on to other pursuits. Plus it’s an economic Civ which would provide more diversity on that end. I know it’s unlikely for Lydia considering Georgia but still—

In my opinion, if the Nazis won’t be considered for this game, nor should the Ottomans. They were a Central Power in WWI siding with the Germans & neutral most of WWII. Both have documented genocide within a decade or so of each other, less than 100 years ago. Is there another picture I’m missing or is this just dealing with how large it got & how long it’s existed?

Moderator Action: Please leave Nazi Germany out of this discussion. leif
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I’m asking not to troll. I’m aware the Reich didn’t even last twenty years but it has quite a following on here, as does the USSR & Gran Colombia. Certainly other leaders in this game have also committed atrocities. Where is the line drawn? I recall a German Empire Civ with Otto von Bismarck as the leader. That ‘empire’ existed less than 50 years.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I don't want more districts, I'd just like them to balance the game so that they are all worth building. Right now almost half of them are rarely if ever worth building.

And I sincerely hope there isn't a separate "Water Park" district and that they are just making the Entertainment district buildable on both land and coastal hexes.

Water Park has buildable buildings as seen in one of Liang the Surveyor's promotions alongside the Entertainment Complex. I'm at least hoping they change the name to Amusement Pier and maybe it adds tourism as well as amenities.

 

[Victoria]

Both have documented genocide within a decade or so of each other, less than 100 years ago.

Yes, the genocide of the pontic race! How dare they.
They also gave the ANZAC's a whipping.

 

[Republic of San Montuoso]

I don't want more districts, I'd just like them to balance the game so that they are all worth building. Right now almost half of them are rarely if ever worth building.

And I sincerely hope there isn't a separate "Water Park" district and that they are just making the Entertainment district buildable on both land and coastal hexes.

I'm afraid that the second new district is the "water park" and it would be a distinct district from the EC.

Look at this : http://well-of-souls.com/civ/images/civ6rf_civics_tree1.jpg

I don't know the authority of this site, but Arioch manage to find the entire culture tree. And if you look closely at the Natural History dogma (it's a little blurry), you can clearly see an hexagone icon typical of districts, and it might look like some sort of EC, but slighty different.
Plus, we see at the same Natural History that the great weel will be unlocked there to (and it's the building of this "water park"). And it has always been like this : the first building of a district is unlocked with the district (you can see that Natural History unlock two buildings, but I don't know what is the other).

So, I think that is the new district announced: a water entertainement park.

Sorry for you.

 

[Duuk]

Yes, the genocide of the pontic race! How dare they.
They also gave the ANZAC's a whipping.

No, the Ottomans committed genocide against the Armenians in the early 1900s. Metro Detroit has a huge Armenian diaspora population.

 

[Siptah]

Here you go:

Have these changes been discussed yet? Really interesting additions for tier 3 governments. Especially democracy seems buffed for me. And the bonus towards buildings districts with Merchant Republic instead of the trade routes.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Have these changes been discussed yet? Really interesting additions for tier 3 governments. Especially democracy seems buffed for me. And the bonus towards buildings districts with Merchant Republic instead of the trade routes.

Only to a limited extent in the Korea livestream thread.

 

[Siptah]

Only to a limited extent in the Korea livestream thread.

Do we already know the full set: 9 governments, 9 GP buildings, 9 policy cards? I think we are missing tier 3 for buildings and policies, right?

 

[Victoria]

No, the Ottomans committed genocide against the Armenians in the early 1900s. Metro Detroit has a huge Armenian diaspora population.

The "Armenians" also then included Trabzon (including Sinope)... and definitely the children of pontus. It was more like a multi genocide....
EDIT... in fact --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Do we already know the full set: 9 governments, 9 GP buildings, 9 policy cards? I think we are missing tier 3 for buildings and policies, right?

We are missing tier 3 buildings and most of the legacy policy cards.

 

[Wingednosering]

Yes. Arthur Roy Brown shot down the Red Baron.

This was a few pages back now, but I just want to clear up that this is not the case. An australian gunner took out the Red Baron from the ground. Brown got credit for it for a while though.

We had many aces in Canada. Billy Bishop is our most famous. We get taught about him in elementary school, he has airports named after him and he was the ace with the third highest victory count of WWI.

 

[bite]

Just tweeted it out here! We're going to try Thursday livestreams for the next few weeks. Hope you can all tune in!

And it is official I have an early morning of Friday

 

[God of Kings]

It's great that a 2K Games staff member is reading this website.

It had to be a certain cyan canary though. Unfortunately, it's not specific which time of day the livestreams would be in.

 

[Phoenix1595]

Other than the promotions/buffs of the remaining few governors, what else could they possibly discuss regarding the governor system during the livestream? Unless there is a feature not previously mentioned, I felt they already covered a lot of ground.

 

[stealth_nsk]

Other than the promotions/buffs of the remaining few governors, what else could they possibly discuss regarding the governor system during the livestream? Unless there is a feature not previously mentioned, I felt they already covered a lot of ground.

Yep. What we actually need to know about:
- Emergincies.
- The second new district.
- Other balance changes.
- What is the current situation with the Cree.