[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[Cerilis]

I don't think Firaxis would use "Nazi" in the name of the building.

Party rally grounds.

I just kept the Nürnberg nazi part in for clarification.

 

[Siptah]

I don't think Firaxis would use "Nazi" in the name of the building.

If you translate the real name it‘s Imperial Party Rally Ground ;-)

 

[Zaarin]

Elvis Costello is English, yet he sounds American when he sings. But, a lot of British singers sound American to me when they sing.

And a lot of Americans sound British (because singing tends to be non-rhotic). It's called a Transatlantic accent. But also genre conventions also dictate pronunciation to a degree: rock and pop originated in America, so many pop and rock singers affect American accents, etc.

I thought it was Mayan and Incan. That's incorrect?

Both "Maya" and "Mayan" are correct. Mayan tends to be used either as the language or adjective rather than the demonym, but I don't think it's explicitly incorrect. "Incan," however, is not a word, as far as I know. Strictly people the Inca was the ruler and Quechua is both the language and the people, so calling them "Inca" is kind of like calling Egyptians "Pharaoh." But it's become standard and I don't really expect it will change now.

 

[God of Kings]

I too would like to see a choice between mutually exclusive buildings for every district. Your proposal for an observatory is an interesting one. Choosing between that for a bit more science and a university for the housing could work. I'm not sure the Theater Square needs another building, though, since it already has a choice between two museums.

I agree as well.

The Holy Site has a whole set of mutually exclusive buildings.

The Encampment already has a mutually exclusive set of buildings: barracks vs. stable.

The Theatre Square has the art museum vs. the archaeological museum.

The choice between observatory and university is interesting.

For the Entertainment Complex, how about zoo vs. circus or stadium vs. theme park?

For the Industrial Zone, how about Power Plant vs. Solar Power Plant?

For the Commercial Hub, how about Stock Exchange vs. Corporate Headquarters?

For the Harbour, how about Seaport vs. Cruise Port of Call?

 

[darkace77450]

Any guesses at what the second new unique district will be?

Courthouse and police station and another building (something spy related?) into some sort of judicial/legislative district? Courthouse could improve loyalty, police station reduce espionage chances - it seems sort of thematic, but also maybe a little redundant with the government district.

Hotel and visitor center and another building (maybe a gift shop doing % tourism to gold) from 5 could go into a 'tourist' district. Replacing the policy cards with city/aoe culture to tourism boosts to make it more placement based? It doesn't exactly fit with the them of the expansion.

What other 'standard' building sets are we missing? Some sort of recycling center/mass transit district? (unlikely with some sort of global warming mechanic).

Assuming the other new district is a new district available to everyone and not just a unique district for a specific Civ or one provided by a specific governor, the possibilities I see are an intelligence district that enhances espionage or educes enemy spy effectiveness or a medical district that boosts either housing or food.

While we're on the subject of districts, I would love to see the Aerodrome reworked into a tourism district. I'd keep the hangar and military airport to boost air units for those who want to build strong air forces, but I'd add a commercial airport and hotel/visitor center as a third building and have those boost the city's tourism.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Assuming the other new district is a new district available to everyone and not just a unique district for a specific Civ or one provided by a specific governor, the possibilities I see are an intelligence district that enhances espionage or educes enemy spy effectiveness or a medical district that boosts either housing or food.

While we're on the subject of districts, I would love to see the Aerodrome reworked into a tourism district. I'd keep the hangar and military airport to boost air units for those who want to build strong air forces, but I'd add a commercial airport and hotel/visitor center as a third building and have those boost the city's tourism.

According to the Steam blurb, There are two new districts and two new unique districts. So, the Government Plaza and unknown second district should be available to everyone with two additional districts that are unique to two new civs.

 

[Leyrann]

According to the Steam blurb, There are two new districts and two new unique districts. So, the Government Plaza and unknown second district should be available to everyone with two additional districts that are unique to two new civs.

Of course, one of those is already known as Korea's unique campus of which I do not remember the name.

 

[Hakan-i Cihan]

Nürnberg nazi party rally grounds. Something like that.

What about using only the Congress Hall which was located on that rally ground?

 

[Cerilis]

What about using only the Congress Hall which was located on that rally ground?

That would be another idea! To be honest though, I think this building might be most famous:

 

[darkace77450]

According to the Steam blurb, There are two new districts and two new unique districts. So, the Government Plaza and unknown second district should be available to everyone with two additional districts that are unique to two new civs.

Ah, good to know. Thanks.

 

[Captain Fargle]

Of course, one of those is already known as Korea's unique campus of which I do not remember the name.

Seowon

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

That would be another idea! To be honest though, I think this building might be most famous:

I thought that was the Reichstag. Also, that should happen whenever a Communist civ takes a Fascist civ's city that contains a Government Plaza.

 

[God of Kings]

The Volkshalle would be an interesting wonder for a civ that chooses Fascism.

 

[Hakan-i Cihan]

I thought that was the Reichstag. Also, that should happen whenever a Communist civ takes a Fascist civ's city that contains a Government Plaza.

Apparently there are two different Reichstags (parliament), one prior to the Nazi-Germany the Weimar Reichstag and formed by the Nazis the Greater German Reichstag. But the actual building was build for the Weimar Reichstag in 1894.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Apparently there are two different Reichstags (parliament), one prior to the Nazi-Germany the Weimar Reichstag and formed by the Nazis the Greater German Reichstag. But the actual building was build for the Weimar Reichstag in 1894.

The Nazis burned down the first one in a black flag type event to justify seizing additional control of the country. The one with the Nazi emblem was the one they rebuilt.

 

[liv]

Is a straight out tourism district a possibility? It would allow for national choices for buildings (but do not use this to post any more nazi pics please)

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/7ioeea/dutch_queen_wilhelmina_has_just_been_teased_on_tv/

On Reddit they are saying Netherlands and Wilhelmina in Rise and Fall were just teased on Dutch TV. Anyone here able to verify that?

 

[Guandao]

dutch_queen_wilhelmina_has_just_been_teased_on_tv

On Reddit they are saying Netherlands and Wilhelmina were just teased on Dutch TV. Anyone here able to verify that?

You mean Netherlands/Wilhelmina being in the Rise and Fall expansion was advertised on Dutch TV?
Sounds strange. Has Firaxis ever done that before?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

You mean Netherlands/Wilhelmina being in the Rise and Fall expansion was advertised on Dutch TV?
Sounds strange. Has Firaxis ever done that before?

That's what they are saying (link fixed).

 

[Guandao]

Here is an example of Dutch backlash at Wilhelmina in that link:
Very disappointed to be honest. Kind of stupid to represent the Dutch civilization at our lowest, weakest and most embarrassing point in history.. We have such a glorious and successful past! Also not sure how Wilhelmina is a good leader. Nothing against her but she didn't really do much in her time compared to people like William of Orange or de Witt brothers.