[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[Leyrann]

But also increase the micro-management at the same time.

But that's the point I've been making - there's not enough to do in the late game - only pressing "next turn" for two of the victory types (and score victory I guess...), and it becomes a drag for the other two. So, Firaxis "increases micromanagement", but what they actually do is introduce things that you have to do even in the late game, so that you're not just hitting "next turn". It increases micromanagement, because right now there is none at all. You're just spamming projects except maybe in that one important space city if you're going science (but there's no important city when going culture; you just gotta get a trade route to every civ, buff them up with policy cards and research computers).

 

[Disgustipated]

I know why they did it. I just don't like it. Then again, I don't think I've ever had more than eleven traders, and that's with Merchant Republic, so...I'm not the target audience for this change.

I had 100 trade routes once. At that point, it really slows down your computer. Late game really hurts my computer pretty bad even with around 30 trade routes.

 

[WillowBrook]

So, have we scoured Georgian and Mongolian newspapers? Tuned into Turkish radio stations? Perused west African celebrity Twitter feeds? Visited the Chateau Frontanac? Any sign of a carefully placed leak about the next civ to be revealed?

 

[Kimiimaro]

I know why they did it. I just don't like it. Then again, I don't think I've ever had more than eleven traders, and that's with Merchant Republic, so...I'm not the target audience for this change.

I remember having about 50 trade routes in my domination game as Germany. I've posted a screenshot of it somewhere.

Edit: Found it.

 

[Lord Lakely]

That has not been Firaxis's approach in the past, and those who bought the DLCs (either one by one, or together in the DDE) would be livid if those DLC were included in the expansion at no additional cost. That said, you shouldn't need those DLCs to enjoy the expansion (you just won't have the DLC civs or scenarios).

Except, they have done this in the past. Spain and The Inca were DLC for Civ 5 and then were included in Gods and Kings.

 

[Kimiimaro]

So, have we scoured Georgian and Mongolian newspapers? Tuned into Turkish radio stations? Perused west African celebrity Twitter feeds? Visited the Chateau Frontanac? Any sign of a carefully placed leak about the next civ to be revealed?

I've found nothing in Czech news, but I don't know about TV channels

 

[ButtBillionaire]

We now know that the teasers show their respective civs' coastlines... so how will Mongolia and other possible landlocked civs' teasers work?

 

[Zelda1983]

Maybe we se normal borders or historical borders?

Possible some mountains or some plains.

 

[Leyrann]

We now know that the teasers show their respective civs' coastlines... so how will Mongolia and other possible landlocked civs' teasers work?

Or it's just a coincidence because both Korea and the Netherlands have a prominent coastline.

 

[roulev]

I would expect to see some kind of topographical map with mountain ranges, rivers, lakes, deserts...

 

[nzcamel]

I had 100 trade routes once. At that point, it really slows down your computer. Late game really hurts my computer pretty bad even with around 30 trade routes.

I remember having about 50 trade routes in my domination game as Germany. I've posted a screenshot of it somewhere.

Edit: Found it.

Lols...I don't think Enrico Dandolo would be threatened by your 15 actual trade routes

Except, they have done this in the past. Spain and The Inca were DLC for Civ 5 and then were included in Gods and Kings.

They better freaken not. Besides... between the Nubians and the Khmer to the deluxers they've given away enough content.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Lols...I don't think Enrico Dandolo would be threatened by your 15 actual trade routes

By the end of game, I had 25 of them. It made Magdeburg, my second city, the most productive city of the German Empire (well... that, and many mines + Ruhr Valley )

But still, almost 2000 coins per turn

 

[sonicmyst]

What clues do we anticipate for Tamar or Khan aside from horses and mountains?

 

[Kimiimaro]

What clues do we anticipate for Tamar or Khan aside from horses and mountains?

Except for the trailer, we've spotted some interesting things during the part that introduced new things added by the R&F expansion in Korea livestream. These things are:
- Two unknown leader portraits. An Asian leader (the player) and an unknown leader with a headband. We suspect that the Asian leader is Genghis/Kublai/Ögedei/some other Mongol Khan
- Cities that had same colours as Mongolia from Civ V. Red and orange.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

What clues do we anticipate for Tamar or Khan aside from horses and mountains?

a picture of a Ger, burning city maybe for Mongolia ?
Not too sure about Georgia.

 

[Arent11]

Just wanted to point out a very nice overview of arioch of many of the features:

well-of-souls.com/civ/civ6_riseandfall.html

 

[liv]

Mongols pretty clearly is coming. People could see a Mongol city name on that play through
Georgia - not so much. A little bit of stretch on interpreting the signs

 

[Vahnstad]

- Cities that had same colours as Mongolia from Civ V. Red and orange.

I haven't seen that? Where?

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I haven't seen that? Where?

In the guide thing at the start of the livestream.

 

[nzcamel]

What clues do we anticipate for Tamar or Khan aside from horses and mountains?

Horses for the Khan.

Oh. You said that lol
Something which signifies empires falling.../dark ages...