[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[Yubnub]

I wonder if any of the civs will have a unique district to replace the government plaza since the reflecting pool and central circular courtyard area seem like a likely spot to place some unique structure. It would need to be a particularly special plaza with some recognizable structure since you can only build one government plaza. Something like the Augustaion for a Byzantine civ with the pool and courtyard being replaced with the Hippodrome, for example (and in this scenario the district would incorporate some mechanic to help the civ withstand dark ages, as a reference to the Nika riots).

 

[Haig]

What new could Isabella bring, Philip already has heavy religious emphasis?

My bet for tuesday is Ottoman Empire..

 

[Captain Fargle]

I wonder if any of the civs will have a unique district to replace the government plaza since the reflecting pool and central circular courtyard area seem like a likely spot to place some unique structure. It would need to be a particularly special plaza with some recognizable structure since you can only build one government plaza. Something like the Augustaion for a Byzantine civ with the pool and courtyard being replaced with the Hippodrome, for example (and in this scenario the district would incorporate some mechanic to help the civ withstand dark ages, as a reference to the Nika riots).

Ethiopia.

The dry, mountainous climate there made it very hard to maintain enough agricultural surplus to support the Emperor and his court and famines were common. As a solution for most of the history of the empire they had a travelling capital that toured the country with the Emperor and his retinue serving double duty as center of government and also supreme court.

 

[Siptah]

So we really have no clue this week what will come. Looking forward to the teaser in that case! Hoping for a nice surprise.

 

[Wingednosering]

Probably Mongols on Tuesday.

Over on the screenshot thread, we've determined that St Basil's Cathedral is basically the 'Tundra Petra'. Anybody want to wager a guess about the South Pole Station's ability, now that super Tundra tiles are taken?

 

[Siptah]

Probably Mongols on Tuesday.

Over on the screenshot thread, we've determined that St Basil's Cathedral is basically the 'Tundra Petra'. Anybody want to wager a guess about the South Pole Station's ability, now that super Tundra tiles are taken?

A lot of GS points, free Eurekas of the Information Age techs (or even free techs), reduction for three Mars projects, % boost to science. Many possibilities. I never found a boost to snow/Tundra likely since it comes too late for that to be worth it.

 

[bbbt]

What new could Isabella bring, Philip already has heavy religious emphasis?

My bet for tuesday is Ottoman Empire..

Well for example they could give her an exploration/discovery bonus based ability ala civ 5.

Practically though, given the number of options they have (for both country and leader) for alternate leaders, I dunno how likely they are to bring in someone so close in reign to the existing leader (being Phillips grandma even I believe). The main likelihood imho is just that she's been Spain's leader in every other civ game they've had Spain in.

 

[sonicmyst]

What if:

Give x Era points when Isabella discovers or settle on new continent?

 

[Siptah]

What if:

Give x Era points when Isabella discovers or settle on new continent?

I hope this is an available dedication for all civs.

 

[Duckfromstatefarm]

I wouldn't be surprised if fixaris tries to throw in a surprise civ/leader this week but who knows, We already know Korea and Dutch from the trailer and they were the first two to be announced so it's possible the Mongols could appear Tuesday, we'll have to see the teaser.

 

[kryat]

Anybody want to wager a guess about the South Pole Station's ability, now that super Tundra tiles are taken?

My guess is +1 production and +3 science per snow tile worked by the owning city.

 

[h0nk0815]

Today the new 'First Look' teaser is going to be revealed. At which time can I expect it?
(Kind of funny, that I am waiting for a teaser to be teased )

 

[Ferocitus]

I wouldn't be surprised if fixaris tries to throw in a surprise civ/leader this week but who knows, We already know Korea and Dutch from the trailer and they were the first two to be announced so it's possible the Mongols could appear Tuesday, we'll have to see the teaser.

We only have the faintest of hints from a long, long time ago.
Rough Riders under Teddy... and Redcoats under Victoria, or words to that
effect in the description of the units implies the USA and England will
have a 2nd leader. Whether it's this week, or even planned for R&F is
anybody's guess.

 

[WillowBrook]

My guess is +1 production and +3 science per snow tile worked by the owning city.

If that's the only benefit, human players would never build it - it just comes too late. To be worth it, it needs immediate payoff like some eurekas, a great scientist, or discount on space race projects.

 

[bite]

Today the new 'First Look' teaser is going to be revealed. At which time can I expect it?
(Kind of funny, that I am waiting for a teaser to be teased )

1 1/2 hours from now

 

[God of Kings]

If that's the only benefit, human players would never build it - it just comes too late. To be worth it, it needs immediate payoff like some eurekas, a great scientist, or discount on space race projects.

It needs a huge game-changing bonus, especially given how late it comes and how snow tiles are very much useless.

 

[WillowBrook]

Today the new 'First Look' teaser is going to be revealed. At which time can I expect it?
(Kind of funny, that I am waiting for a teaser to be teased )

Last week's tweet showed up at 10 a.m. Eastern time exactly - same time the Tuesday first looks apart.

 

[kryat]

If that's the only benefit, human players would never build it - it just comes too late. To be worth it, it needs immediate payoff like some eurekas, a great scientist, or discount on space race projects.

That’s a good point. I didn’t think about how late it would come in the game. I still think it has to be a per tile thing for snow or tundra though, anything else would be very non-thematic (especially straight discounts on the space race). What about +3 GS and GE points per turn per snow tile?

 

[WillowBrook]

That’s a good point. I didn’t think about how late it would come in the game. I still think it has to be a per tile thing for snow or tundra though, anything else would be very non-thematic (especially straight discounts on the space race). What about +3 GS and GE points per turn per snow tile?

I wouldn't be surprised if it gives some benefit to snow tiles, but that can't be the primary reason people would build it - it just wouldn't be worth it. Your guesses are as good as mine as to what that snow benefit might be. But I predict a benefit to snow tiles will not be the only thing the wonder gives.

 

[God of Kings]

It's time to post teasers not just on lowercase sixth letters and cyan canaries.

Why not the white alien or here in the good old CFC, which predates all of those three?