[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

Shorlin said:
They get a +3 combat strength modifier against you.. pretty good reason to refuse all delegations except for declared friends imo
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As I explained above, the delegate is removed when war is declared:

leandrombraz said:
You can accept delegation, don't worry about the intel combat bonus. When a war is declared the delegates are removed, which mean they lose the combat bonus, it's only there while you're at peace. Some sources of intel stick when you're at war (listening post, printing technology, Mongolia's trading post), others don't and essentially have no effect in the game, unless it make the AI more likely to declare war on you because they are stronger but idk if this is a thing.
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Started two games by now and played around with the video regulations. But while I was able to play easily and fluently on "High" (and even "ultra" in teh first half of games) before R&F, even minimum graphics cannot be handled fluently anymore.

I knew my Laptop was never perfect for the higher graphic settings of Civ6 (IntelCore i5-6200U, 2.3GHz with boost up to 2.8; NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M with 2GB) but I am really surprised the expansion made it this much worse. It is almost as if my Laptop did not realize before that it wasn't meant to handle the game on "ultra" or "high".


UPDATE: it seems the game needed a few restarts to get going... all is back to normal now.
 
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The scottish people live in ecstasy :P
 
Well, that wasn't a good first impression. My neighbour was Scotland, with a leader agenda that explicitly states 'does not attack neighbours unless they break a promise'. So I thought I could get away with a lesser focus on early game military for once. He declares war on me anyway, despite me breaking no promises, and because I neglected my military, he could take my capital. Made it to turn 45. Pretty frustrating for my first experience of the expansion to be the AI does the ONE thing it's explicitly stated they don't do. Not great when the game actively lies to you.
 
mrwho said:
Well, that wasn't a good first impression. My neighbour was Scotland, with a leader agenda that explicitly states 'does not attack neighbours unless they break a promise'. So I thought I could get away with a lesser focus on early game military for once. He declares war on me anyway, despite me breaking no promises, and because I neglected my military, he could take my capital. Pretty frustrating for my first experience of the expansion to be the AI does the ONE thing it's explicitly stated they don't do. Not great when the game actively lies to you.
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Yeah, I wouldn't trust his agenda to be accurate. He is probably less likely to declare war but still do it if he sees opportunity.
 
mrwho said:
Well, that wasn't a good first impression. My neighbour was Scotland, with a leader agenda that explicitly states 'does not attack neighbours unless they break a promise'. So I thought I could get away with a lesser focus on early game military for once. He declares war on me anyway, despite me breaking no promises, and because I neglected my military, he could take my capital. Made it to turn 45. Pretty frustrating for my first experience of the expansion to be the AI does the ONE thing it's explicitly stated they don't do. Not great when the game actively lies to you.
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The AI will almost always attack you early if you neglect your military, regardless of their agenda.
 
the ginger one said:
Th e patch said major civilizations would be further away, with CS separating them.
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City States should have at least 5 hexes between them. In the screenshot I posted there are several examples of the minimum distance being ignored. The screenshot also shows 7 of 12 city states spawning in close proximity to each other. I must have looked at 50+ starts by now and every single one has had at least one instance of CS being less than 5 hexes away from another CS. This is causing a very uneven distribution of CS on the map.
 
Benzombie said:
How has everyone been doing with the new spawn rework? Good distance between civs and city-states or still too close?
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AI still spawns too close. In my first game Shaka's capital was 8 tiles away from mine and settled his 2nd city right in the middle.
 
My first game as the Cree has been fun. Playing on Emperor to test it out a bit and well, at least this particular game is waaaaaaaay easy. I'm getting the same feeling of completely running away with the game as before the expansion. In fact, even moreso now because I had a series of Golden Ages which allowed me to scoop up quite a few of the surrounding cities.
This was quite awesome mind you, hehe. But yeah, this particular game has been very easy.

Enjoying it though.
 
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