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'Rising Tide' expansion announced!

Discussion in 'CivBE - General Discussions' started by Camikaze, May 18, 2015.

  1. TPangolin

    TPangolin Just the worst person

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    I'm essentially expecting all the new factions to fit within the "Rising Tide" theme. S Scandinavian Faction with naval, exploration theme sthat harkens back to Norse exploration and Rebel Faction that's an inverse to the ARC and focuses on espionage (a rising political tide if you will) is quite likely in my eyes.

    Also, hopefully better Polystralian traits that fit with the new theme.
     
  2. nimling

    nimling Prince

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    Does it fix 1UPT? No? Then it's crap. Pity because new ideas are fun, but a fix for the base game is long, long overdue.
     
  3. TPangolin

    TPangolin Just the worst person

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  4. Ryika

    Ryika Lazy Wannabe Artista

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    I only I had ever bothered to take a closer look at the smileys that are available. This one is just full of win and really says everything that needs to be said.
     
  5. iki

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    They seem like a trading nation so maybe you are onto something.
     
  6. Enkidu Warrior

    Enkidu Warrior Ultramagnetic

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    There won't be a Japan-Korea joint sponser if they harbour any hopes of selling a single copy in Korea.
     
  7. Westwall

    Westwall Emperor

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    They can have all my money if they would just fix automated workers.

    I realize automating workers is heretical, but at least in SMAC all the way up to Civ 5 the feature worked well enough that workers could be left alone to their own devices most of the time.

    Now if you automate them, there's a very real chance of them just bugging out and not building anything. Ever.
     
  8. iki

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    They did? I must have missed that.
    Why would it start with planetary survey? Surely the initial city would be similar to the starting city.

    If you have a worker as a cargo it again gives you a two fold boon over land based ones, not including the sponsor/ civ/ faction one.

    As that's a huge advantage over other Civs. Maybe as a cargo option. But it's far more than a boon for the two Sponsors / civs / factions that might be water based.
     
  9. Ryika

    Ryika Lazy Wannabe Artista

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    Well, Planetary Survey is needed to water units, I guess that's his logic. But I'm sure there will be a lot of tech-changes and I wouldn't be surprised if embarking as well as basic sea improvements won't have a tech prereq anymore. The same may even be true for the new base sea unit.
     
  10. iki

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    But then I think a prerequisite tech should be for Worker units as then it kinda balances it out. Getting a free one would be a boon and it would even out the Tech imbalance in my opinion.
     
  11. Gorbles

    Gorbles Load Balanced

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    What kind of bugging out do you mean? They won't build on top of each other, sure. This means they won't start automated tasks that path them over another Worker's current path (I think that's how they work).

    Haven't experienced any bugs though, myself.
     
  12. durfal

    durfal The Dutch Daredevil

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    I get the feeling that even the water themed sponsors start on land but can build on sea faster than the non water themed sponsors.
    Maybe I'm wrong and they fix some stuff, but there are so many problems now if they start at sea immediately.
     
  13. Mecatronico

    Mecatronico Chieftain

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    I always automated my workers, is it a good way to play? No! But I am very casual and play in lower difficults so there is no problem, I just build a good number of the guys and let they alone, when I need something specific I grab the closest worker and give it an order. This way to play served me very well UNTIL I found The Terrascape, when I discover it, this is all my workers want to build and it gets... interesting... well, after that no more automated workers for me, I have not played for some time, so I do not know if it was changed but it surely was my biggest problem with the workers.
     
  14. Quineloe

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    The only thing to excite me at this point is a complete overhaul of the diplomacy system.

    My major disappointment in BE is that they carried over the complete lackluster system we had in 5 without doing anything about it except the worthless favors.
     
  15. Westwall

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    I once had about 10 automated workers sitting around doing absolutely nothing even though they were sitting between 3 cities without any improvements - no roads or farms or generators, NOTHING. I thought maybe I had too many workers... but then I tried a new game and it happened again, this time with just 2 workers between 2 cities. Really frustrating.
     
  16. Endar

    Endar Chieftain

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    Hopefully they will make specialists useful.
     
  17. iki

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    Certain ones already are. Though yeah I kinda miss Doctors from SMAC.
     
  18. Ryika

    Ryika Lazy Wannabe Artista

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    In mainstream strategies all specialists are useless right now. Food and Production both are utterly useless and even outclassed by normal tiles, additional culture is not really needed in the mid- and endgame (when slots are available) - if the palace came with 1-2 culture slots, that would actually open up some options.

    Scientists could actually have a place if the buildings you need to get them wouldn't come so late and if academies wouldn't just outclass them by also granting the base tile yield at the cost of a few ept (and being limitless spamable). Then there's also the production cost of buildings with scientist slots - and of course there's still the "issue" that you can't actually build institutes directly when you research that tech without giving up 1.5-2k science from not being able to use its building quest for a really advanced tech.
     
  19. Westwall

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    Yeah culture doesn't seem to serve much purpose beyond expanding borders and gaining virtues.

    Seems like a step back from the more prominent role it had in Civ 5.
     
  20. iki

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    Yeah a cultural Victory or something like it would be nice. Maybe it could be used as a diplomatic currency for something??
     

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