RT-01 Triadic Warfare

[namliaM]

Hmz, reloading ...

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

That's not reloading, it's dicking around. I always had every intention of not keeping whatever it gave me--even if it gave me a free settler or bronze working. I didn't see anything new by moving the scout (or, if I did, I don't remember it).

Besides, I never saved it after I popped the tech, so phfffbbbttt!.

If you're really hard up on it, I can keep reloading over and over until I pop sailing again.

 

[Kikinit]

Rex, rex... It's just the spirit the games played in. Clicking around is frowned upon as it can be seen to be an advantage...

But this ain't a competition so pfffftbt!

Just get on with it and post us something to talk about .

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

Alex and I don't typically get along. He backstabs me, I backstab him. He sleeps with my wife. I gut the son of a #&!% and @!$* down his *^#$ing *&$^& #$*@! while his kids watch, horrified, screaming, "not my daddy! Not my daddy!"

You get the picture. It pretty much sums up mine and Alex's relationship. So I thought it odd that the blessed dice might pin us together in this *ahem* peaceful game. Odd. Perhaps I've gotten Alex all wrong these last few months. Perhaps I can use Alex to my advantage. Perhaps through peace and cooperation and love and puppies and girlscout cookies and AH *&$! IT! LET's KILL SOMEONE ALREADY!

I mean, let's get cultural or...uh...diplomatic...or something...

4000 BC (Before who?)

Brilliant debate by my teammates notwithstanding, I move one tile southwest and settle Athens where I bloody well please. I begin a worker. Our scout fails miserably while interrogating the natives and only manages one lousy stinkin' map.

Disgusted with the worthless captain of reconnesance, I gouge out his eyeballs. "There's tech in them hills," I says to the filthy mongrel's lieutenant as I hand him his former captain's occular vessels. "Now you have four eyes for finding it." The man starts say something, but I stall him with a glance. "If you comes back empty handed, lieutenant, I'll see if the next man can do it with six! Go!"

Obviously, the George Steinbrenner school of management pays off, as when the bastard dares show his face in 3880, it's with Animal Husbandry in hand.

"Well done," says I, "now stop husbanding those pigs and get back out there." I love the smell of tribal villages in the morning. Smells like...pig *#@!.

3880 BC

In a herculean effort--and what would later become known as the Great Flatus--I single handedly expand Athens' borders and open up our entire BFC to our slaves. And look, horses! (Someone called horses. Who gets those 10 points?)

3680 BC

Word spreads throughout the land. Our people are in awe. (No, not the Great Flatus again.) Buddhism FIDL! Bum ba da dum!

3640 BC

Well not to be outdone some fat, jade statue, forty years later we learn Agriculture and I found Cornianity! All hail His Stalkiness!

The sages tell me that they'd like to learn a little Mysticism next. It's aparently a huge chick magnet at parties. It'll also help our borders pop quicker, since *#&@ing Alex isn't terribly creative. (Okay, might have been weed to learn Mysticism next, but I had Confucius/CoL in my head. We'll need in eventually.) Mysticism is due in 8, btw.

3560 BC

Aparently Lt. McScoutenfoofel isn't all he's cracked up to be. Thinking he can rest on his laurels, Mr. "Have you seen my baseball" tries waltzing into Athens after burning an entire village and only netting me 39 Gold! I'm so ticked I feed him to the cats.

Literally, next turn he's attacked by panthers and lions. I knew the lions were there, but I wanted the hut. The panthers must have just been a two-fer. That's one dead scout, eh boss?

3400 BC

Finally! After agonizing for 600 years and zero growth, our worker finally graces us with his presence. You should have heard those psychophants at court. "Oh, the worker. He's so strong. He's so wonderful." As if they'd forgotten that the only thing keeping them from being inside one of those tribal-huts-o-flame IS ME! GOT THAT! We've had just about enough of all this pansying around. Let's build a warrior and use some of the courtisans as target dummies.

3320 BC

Mysticism arrives, and not a moment too soon. This place is fruity enough already. Let's butch this place up, shall we? Yes, let's. What would you like to do today, Brain? Same thing we do every day, Pinky. Try to take over the world...


...(begin Mining, due in 7)

That's really it. Hindu popped in 3240, making me really glad I didn't go for Poly after Myst. Mining is due in 4. Warrior in 10. Growth in 1. Any questions, write 'em down, wipe your ass with the paper, and flush.

Credit where due department: That whole eyeball bit is taken from George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire, though I don't remember the context or which book.

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

The Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/APRICOT_BC-3200.Civ4SavedGame

Official Chicken:

Rex Tyrannus => Just played 20
Kikinit => up for 20
namliaM => wishing he were cool enough to be up for 20
Bede => Probably still in denial over being skipped in RB17II
(reserved for) Blid => Cowering in the corner afraid of Kikinit's grandeur
GreyFox => Still dreaming of Gillian Anderson 8 years after the show was cancelled.

 

[Kikinit]

Um... I'm too scared to post after that tirade... {squeek}

Nice turns boss {runs off and hides under the talbe waiting for the booming voice}

EDIT: As I'm the next chicken up, I'll DL the save tonight and should be able to play it then. At minimum I'll have some questions.

 

[namliaM]

That's not reloading, it's dicking around. I always had every intention of not keeping whatever it gave me--even if it gave me a free settler or bronze working. I didn't see anything new by moving the scout (or, if I did, I don't remember it).

Besides, I never saved it after I popped the tech, so phfffbbbttt!.

If you're really hard up on it, I can keep reloading over and over until I pop sailing again.

Note the , I was just but kidding

Do we want/need a new scout? Or just some warriors?

We allready have enough food to grow to 20

Nice report, In what direction is Alex? Or was that just in case and we didnt actually meet anyone yet?

 

[Kikinit]

Umm.. we are Alex. Or more correcty Apricot...

 

[blid]

hail apricot
Martin you say, this seems like the dwarf style of toying. He must be inspiring to you. And Coward as I am, I surely will send Kikinit behind the walls. Don't want to meet any snow creatures

On-Topic :
The phants seem like a wonderful choking point for this peaceful bunch
Get the phants left and rip the neighbours right

Would we learn to ornate the walls with bizarre signs for the future generations and then head to the confusing god ?

Oh, and we have a "bordeaux-tastic" site for my "saucisson"

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

At minimum I'll have some questions.

I already told you the procedure for questions...

Note the , I was just but kidding

Oh, I know. I was but being weird. I understand it's difficult to discern me being weird from me being anything else...

We allready have enough food to grow to 20

I count 34 food if we improve no further tiles. The pigs will up it to 35. So we should decide on this city's specialty soon. No, this isn't Fox03, but if we want a GP farm, we should build farms. Anything else and we really only need a couple of farms total.

Umm.. we are Alex. Or more correcty Apricot...

Hee hee. APRICOT is the name of that computer in my home/office network. CivIV uses it as my default name and I never bothered to tell it otherwise. Just be thankful I didn't play this game on EGGPLANT, PUMPKIN, or ZUCCHINI.

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

Martin you say, this seems like the dwarf style of toying. He must be inspiring to you. And Coward as I am, I surely will send Kikinit behind the walls. Don't want to meet any snow creatures

um...okay?

The phants seem like a wonderful choking point for this peaceful bunch
Get the phants left and rip the neighbours right

Agreed, though the mountains will probably provide many great choke points in this game. For us and our enemies.

Oh, and we have a "bordeaux-tastic" site for my "saucisson"

Ummm...how about Coq au Vin? Is it really as good as it sounds, Blid? I've made it here in the states, but we can't actually get two-year-old rooster very easily. I used a bunch of leg quarters from hens, but it probably wasn't gamey enough. Plus, I'm cheap and used whatever $10 bottle of wine I had lying around. It was tasty, but not coq au vin, I'm betting.

 

[Kikinit]

Ok... i had some questions but I followed the instructions and pressed flush..

Not sure what to do now.

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

Ok... i had some questions but I followed the instructions and pressed flush..

Not sure what to do now.

Okay one...or two ...questions might not be so bad....

(Please note the tyrant still in character. The SGer welcomes all questions, unless it begins with "GreyFox" and ends with some sort of body part .)

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

Would we learn to ornate the walls with bizarre signs for the future generations and then head to the confusing god ?

I think I'd hold off on writing until we meet a few people. Without other civs, writing is wasted beakers. I was taking us the mining => bw => iw path in case we decided on an early war.

Though, thinking about it, we could probably grab archery soon. I hate making warriors, but I almost never research archery because I trade for it early. (I also usually take the offensive and build a *#@$% load of axemen instead.) If we delay writing (and ultimately alphabet) as I suggest above, we might not have defenders for a while. How are Phalanx at defending cities?

Also, we should open the discussion for our war declarations. My thinking is that we don't want a BC war. We should wait until most land is settled and waste our first war on the choicest fruit. I'm thinking around 400 AD with the first offensive.

Next, it's imperative that we save at least one war for an end-game counter against a civ about to build spaceship parts. We might even need two wars for this.

We'll probably be paying a lot of CivAs to attack CivBs, but that coin will most assuredly be tech. we have to walk a narrow line to keep any one civ from getting too powerful or advanced.

We probably can't rely on too many wars declared against us as, once we're significantly more powerful, they'll be more reluctant to do battle. I'm wondering if it's possible to DP with CivA, then pay CivB to declare against CivA. (Pay a Civ to war with us.) Anyone ever tried this?

 

[Kikinit]

I just want to know if we've got any plans on how to win this game. This is Monarch you know... As you've played your turns already, I presumed you must have a plan and will tell me what to do next.

I would have thought that we would rush to build our awesome phalanx's that we should be getting ready for a quick rush on whom-so ever is our nearest neighbour... thus spending one of our war declarations to take out one of our opponents.

To do this, I'll need to go bronzeworking and failing that, iron working... And pottery after bronze if we've got copper or after iron if we haven't.

My plan is... Athens: Warrior, Warrior, Settler
Worker: Pigs, Mine and then I'll see what's going on..
Techs: Mining -> Bronzeworking -> (Ironworking) -> Pottery... I'll only get through bronzeworking in this lot anyway.

EDIT: I see you've answered a lot of this above.. cross post.

 

[Rex Tyrannus]

I like your tech plan. I like your worker actions. On build, I'm wondering if we can get away with the settler after the first worker. Do we still need to defend our capital? Can't our first warrior escort the settler?

Edit: We also can't build roads. If we have copper, go for wheel after bw.

 

[GreyFox]

A bit early to be talking about these ... but, WTH.

-- I would go the writing path myself ... i am a big fan of TGL. Must be an addiction from Civ2 days (must built the Great Library and Leonardo Workshop). I think it is a must if we are going Space route. Remember, its is all finiancial Monarch opponents we are talking about. To beat them at research, we have to get libraries up quickly.

-- Agree on most land being settled first before warring, but that would most likely means not using our UU. But I don't know how that leads to 400AD ???

-- I think if we keep ourselves from building too much troops, instead concentrating on tech-ing and infrastructure, some AI would bound to attack us.

-- As far as I know, when A and B enters a DP, its very difficult to get C to attack on B. C will take into consideration the combined power of A+B, and tell you a "We fear their military might."

 

[Kikinit]

ok.. got it and playing now.

 

[Kikinit]

Turns flew by as there was not much to do... Until I had my first warrior finished, I couldn't even explore. The pigs are worked, two hills are mined and a settler is built an on his way down towards the horses.

When Mining came in, I went for bronze working. When that came in, I scanned around and there's no copper. None anywhere that we know of. So I chose Ironworking next. It's only got a turn or 2 in it but we need it.

Due to the absence of copper, I sent the 2nd warrior I built before the settler with the settler towards the horses so we can connect them up and maybe go all equine.

The first warrior I sent out towards the NE. He got attacked by some bears and panthers in the course of his travels but he is surviving well and has combat 2. There's a nice hut for him to pop.

Here's the area around the capital. I have picked stonehenge as the next build as I wasn't really sure what else we should do and I think that we should use some of our excess forests on hills and grasslands to chop the wonder in. Sorry it wasn't discussed, but I think we'll find it useful to get those border pops in our early towns without building otherwise useless obelisks.

The settler and warrior are on there way down to settle somwhere near the horses. To be honest, they probably need to do a bit of exploring first to work out the best location to settle. Maybe a few of you want to load up the save and see if you can see any good nearby city sites.

Here's the capital. It's got loads of food and good production for a city of this size. It can spit out a worker or settler in quicktime.

And just for interest at such an early stage. You can see that we are number 1 in production...

Here's the save:

 

[Kikinit]

Here's some more views of the area around our city. NE followed by NW and then Southern areas.