Saddam Hussein Hanged

[amadeus]

Dignity be dammed.

I also think that they should have burned Saddam's
body and thrown the ashes in the Euphrates.

The body should either have been burned or entombed in a U.S. (better yet, Israeli?) museum as an exhibit.

i watched the same video, look like it was recorded on a mobile phone.

It was; the "official" video has yet to be released.

 

[-0blivion-]

The official video was released before the mobile phone video actually, its silent and stops some seconds before the hanging.

 

[PersianBoy]

people of my country is too glad of saddam`s death
Iraqi army attacked at his time to Iran and killed so much poeple and now they are so happy that Saddam is dead
althought they face a greater threat from USA that control the Iraq and also Afghanistan
poeple eagerly look at those films that shows death of Saddam and remember sad days that he talked about capturing Iran and killing poeple

 

[Gelion]

The body should either have been burned or entombed in a U.S. (better yet, Israeli?) museum as an exhibit.

Nah! Just stick his head on a pole in front of the White House to show who's the boss!

 

[Jawz II]

i saw the whole clip of him being hanged, and well it was very unpleasent.

 

[ShannonCT]

Entirely false argument, Shannon:
You try to back your view by saying that there exists some nameless, strange for westerners, rage, which we cannot examine, and so we have to accept it. But if we cannot examine it, then it should mean that neither can you, and so essentially you are supporting an illusion, having already presented it as something not possible to be looked at more closely. Essentially you have created a small idealistic object and then went forward to back a view on it.

The vast majority of Americans (where I am from) and British (where Sidhe is from) have no experience with living under a regime that uses mass murder and torture to silence or eliminate its political rivals. No amount of scholarship on the issue can allow you or me to feel the same emotion that certain Iraqis felt seeing their tormenter come to his end. If Sidhe was condemning people on this forum for celebrating, I see his point. But I can't agree with condemning those Iraqis who have suffered so much for some non-violent celebration.

Your argument is not much more than another brick on the wall of medieval black & white thinking, with Saddam as a scape-goat. The number of people who have died in Iraq under the current occupation is not incomparable with those who died as a result of Saddam's regime. Afterall that is only logical; a government would try to secure stability, since it would collapse without it. On the other hand the occupation force has clearly shown that it cannot even secure such a stability, at the same time destroying the level of life of people in Iraq, which was not so low as now with what in essense is a civil war going on.

I'm not sure how to respond to this since it has nothing to do with what we were talking about. Sidhe and I were talking about whether celebrating Saddam's death is barbaric or natural, and you're going on about a topic that belongs in a thread about whether Iraq is or isn't better off without Saddam.

And I'm not sure how your defense of Saddam's cruelty makes me the medieval thinker and you the enlightened one...

 

[Red Door]

i saw the whole clip of him being hanged, and well it was very unpleasent.

It would've made me sick, but then I remembered how many people this man has killed and it made me smile.

 

[Tanizaki]

It would've made me sick, but then I remembered how many people this man has killed and it made me smile.

Have you seen Yakety Saddam?

 

[Jawz II]

It would've made me sick, but then I remembered how many people this man has killed and it made me smile.

yeah i thought i would laugh my head off, but it was just unpleasent. weird.

 

[greekguy]

It would've made me sick, but then I remembered how many people this man has killed and it made me smile.

same here. when dictators and mass murderers get their just desserts i always react positively. i have no qualms celebrating the death of a mad man.

 

[Sidhe]

The vast majority of Americans (where I am from) and British (where Sidhe is from) have no experience with living under a regime that uses mass murder and torture to silence or eliminate its political rivals. No amount of scholarship on the issue can allow you or me to feel the same emotion that certain Iraqis felt seeing their tormenter come to his end. If Sidhe was condemning people on this forum for celebrating, I see his point. But I can't agree with condemning those Iraqis who have suffered so much for some non-violent celebration.

I quite agree which is why I was trying to make that distinction clear. For example I don't have a problem here.

people of my country is too glad of saddam`s death
Iraqi army attacked at his time to Iran and killed so much poeple and now they are so happy that Saddam is dead
althought they face a greater threat from USA that control the Iraq and also Afghanistan
poeple eagerly look at those films that shows death of Saddam and remember sad days that he talked about capturing Iran and killing poeple

yeah i thought i would laugh my head off, but it was just unpleasent. weird.

I've seen a number of things from that web site that would make this look like a summer outing. Trust me you really don't want to explore that site too thoroughly unless you're slightly unhinged.

 

[philippe]

I tought of an interesting paralel between Saruman and Saddam.
after the battle of isengard with the ents, Saruman was in his tower.(and unleashing an army of uruk-hai is a warcrime i guess). They didn't excecute him then...and Saruman escapes to taunt the shire.(read the book fools )(not that i say saddam would be freed by shunnis)
Sometimes evil must be punished but about death penalty, i got very mixed feelings.
It has the advantage that the person itself is gone as evil but the taking of a life by a state...
Eh... i can just conclude with a "joke" i heard yesterday.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Saddam.

Whatya'doing?

Just hanging around.

 

[Goonie]

Abbas
Abdullah
Afewerki
Ahmadinejad
Assad
Castro
Chavez
dos Santos
Gadhafi
Galloway
Hu
Hussein
Khameini
Kim
Lukashenko
Mandela
Mbeki
Minh Triet
Morales
Mswati
Mugabe
Nujoma
Ortega
Putin
Sayasone
Shwe

Abbas? He's a moderate...
Mbeki? A democratically elected president?
Chavez? Another democratically elected president?
Ortega? Bitter he still had electoral success after all those years?

****ed up list mate.

 

[Sidhe]

I tought of an interesting paralel between Saruman and Saddam.
after the battle of isengard with the ents, Saruman was in his tower.(and unleashing an army of uruk-hai is a warcrime i guess). They didn't excecute him then...and Saruman escapes to taunt the shire.(read the book fools )(not that i say saddam would be freed by shunnis)
Sometimes evil must be punished but about death penalty, i got very mixed feelings.
It has the advantage that the person itself is gone as evil but the taking of a life by a state...
Eh... i can just conclude with a "joke" i heard yesterday.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Saddam.

Whatya'doing?

Just hanging around.

After getting an offer of redemption from Gandalf who when he refused lost his staff and much of his power, Saruman fled before he could be apprehended after a treaty with the ents, later he met up with Grima wormtongue the half hobbit and in a fit of pique and hatred tried to destroy the Shire, as he saw it the source of his misfortune, he was then killed and his spirit faded into oblivion, as an Istari this shows clearly that unlike when Gandalf died at the hands of the Blarog he was not considered worthy by the valar to return to complete his task on ME and was cast out into the void with Melkor, The valar equivalent to satan I supose and Saurons master. What this shows is that Saruman once the mightiest of the good wizards could be corrupted by evil, and the punishment for it was not applied by men but by the "angels" or Valar.

It's not a very good analogy and besides it's not real anyway

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

Saw the video.

You know, they don't NORMALLY let hecklers into an execution chamber. Not even in Texas.

 

[Abaddon]

Yea, thats a bit of a cock-up... still think a public hanging would have been better.

 

[RedWolf]

Abbas? He's a moderate...
Mbeki? A democratically elected president?
Chavez? Another democratically elected president?
Ortega? Bitter he still had electoral success after all those years?

****ed up list mate.

Sharpe thinks disagreeing with the US makes you a criminal. Specifically if you're a Palestinian.

 

[MamboJoel]

I watched the video a couple of times (...)

Then if you enjoyed it I'd like to add that there was a human beeing hanging at the end of that rope, and that I only see two kinds of spectators going for a rewatch : the sadists and these aren't dangerous, and the vengefuls, these are.

Appart from the the barbaric aspect of an execution, we can only point out the pure stupidity of
1. Applying the sentence on Aïd el-Kebir
2. Videotaping the thing (like if the Internet and fundies on the web didn't exist)
Just as if the wanted to have more problems...

 

[Tanizaki]

Than if you enjoyed it I'd like to add that there was a human beeing hanging at the end of that rope,

Maybe he should have acted like one.

 

[MamboJoel]

Maybe he should have acted like one.

We're talking about human beeing, not human acting.