Saddam Hussein Hanged
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I think roughly 30,000 people died the same day that Saddam died.
Pontiuth Pilate
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Actually, it was just thwarted, since Saddam never had to face the Kurds whose families he poisoned.
That was his biggest crime and he never stood trial for it.
Lambert Simnel
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I agree that they'll likely view it as justice; they didn't need a trial, I'm sure, since his atrocities are common knowledge
EdwardTking
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I think that executing Sadam Hussein was, for psychological reasons, a necessary preliminary move prior to the US changing its game plan in Iraq.
Personally I think that Sadam should have been charged for waging
an aggressive war, he did this twice; the Iranian and Kuwaiti
ambassadors been invited around, and the won who offered the most
dosh, been given a big blunt object and allowed to bludgeon him to death.
Personally I think that Sadam should have been charged for waging
an aggressive war, he did this twice; the Iranian and Kuwaiti
ambassadors been invited around, and the won who offered the most
dosh, been given a big blunt object and allowed to bludgeon him to death.
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EdwardTking
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Dignity be dammed.
I also think that they should have burned Saddam's
body and thrown the ashes in the Euphrates.
I also think that they should have burned Saddam's
body and thrown the ashes in the Euphrates.
-0blivion-
Musically inclined
Right Ed, because that would be smart.
The fact is that the mobile phone video has been spread around the world and it does contain Iraqi's insulting Saddam and chanting Maqtada Al Sadr. Scarcely a single Iraqi in the Sunni Triangle will be unaware by now that he was insulted repeatedly by his executors and that will only inflame the situation.
Whatever we in the west see, the notion will still remain that this is Shiite justice, not Iraqi justice. And whatever we think doesn't actually matter, its what is perceived by Iraqis, and more importantly, shiites.
The fact is that the mobile phone video has been spread around the world and it does contain Iraqi's insulting Saddam and chanting Maqtada Al Sadr. Scarcely a single Iraqi in the Sunni Triangle will be unaware by now that he was insulted repeatedly by his executors and that will only inflame the situation.
Whatever we in the west see, the notion will still remain that this is Shiite justice, not Iraqi justice. And whatever we think doesn't actually matter, its what is perceived by Iraqis, and more importantly, shiites.
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Yesterday was a holy day for Muslims and Hindus. According to the Muslims:
Eid ul-Adha (Arabic: عيد الأضحى ‘Īd al-’Aḍḥā, or Eid-e Qurban (Persian: عید قربان Eyde Ghorbân,Turkish: Kurban Bayramı
It is celebrated on the 10th day of the month of Dhul Hijja (ذو الحجة
Eid ul-Adha is three days long starting the day after the pilgrims in hajj (annual pilgrimage to Mecca by Muslims world wide) descend from mount Arafat.
One really wonders why they chose yesterday to execute him. There has been outrage from other parts of the Islamic world in response to it. Talk about instant martyardom.
According to Hindus yesterday was a sacred day and those who die on it attain moksha (Enlightenment) and they instantly go to heaven.
DYNAMICS
Chief Engineer
Aye but his country didn't lose a war.
El Machinae do you really think thousands of Iraqi deaths on this day means more to people than a single death of a dictator by the baying mobs, who could only look less civilised if they held pitchforks and torches and drooled onto their shoes?
Personally to think another human being dying brings joy to such people is but another fall of man.
I am once again ashamed of assosciating with the human race.
ShannonCT
Deity
How many Iraqis did the US/UK kill today? Very few I suspect. How many innocent civilians? Even fewer and hopefully none.
Yeah, but I'm betting that you haven't had any friends or family members murdered or tortured by your Prime Minister. I think that people cheering the death of their tormenter is only human nature.
No. but then neither have those who are shouting their joy about this. I could understand the admonishments of those so agrieved, but this is frankly sickening. Someone dying is never cause for celebration in my view, have we as a race learnt nothing? It seems to me that for some the value of human life and for some their views that all life is sacred, are supplanted by baser instincts, this is pretty sad.
ShannonCT
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How could you possibly know what evils the celebrants have suffered at the hands of Saddam? Countless thousands were murdered and tortured under Saddam's watch and millions were forced to live in fear and oppression.
Those of us living in the free West can't possibly understand the mindset of the Iraqis.
Look I understand that people agrieved by this might feel the need to celebrate, but those in this thread who are doing so are behaving like children. If you think it's just: fine, no problem here, but if this is giving you a great deal of fun and you feel the need to make asinine jokes about a mans death, then that is not apropriate humane behaviour and I will feel to judge you for it.
To be honest even if Sadam killed your whole familly this isn't going to bring you any comfort, revenge generally doesn't. But at least those so agrieved have a reason to feel such things, I'm just waiting for the joke about Saddam being hanged to pop up so we can all laugh about how great it is that yet another person died on this planet(Oh I forgot it already has) This is just a sad reflection our need for pointless revenge.
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Entirely false argument, Shannon:
You try to back your view by saying that there exists some nameless, strange for westerners, rage, which we cannot examine, and so we have to accept it. But if we cannot examine it, then it should mean that neither can you, and so essentially you are supporting an illusion, having already presented it as something not possible to be looked at more closely. Essentially you have created a small idealistic object and then went forward to back a view on it.
Your argument is not much more than another brick on the wall of medieval black & white thinking, with Saddam as a scape-goat. The number of people who have died in Iraq under the current occupation is not incomparable with those who died as a result of Saddam's regime. Afterall that is only logical; a government would try to secure stability, since it would collapse without it. On the other hand the occupation force has clearly shown that it cannot even secure such a stability, at the same time destroying the level of life of people in Iraq, which was not so low as now with what in essense is a civil war going on.
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