SENTENCING POLL - People vs. Stuck_as_a_Mac
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Stuck_as_a_Mac
Aptenodytes forsteri
I would like to thank everyone who voted "warning" and kept me free. Now I just hope we can put this behind us and have a good Term 4.
Ill be seeing you all in Rhineland.
Ill be seeing you all in Rhineland.
Cyc
Looking for the door...
He's getting away!!!Quick! Where's my spear...
Octavian X
is not a pipe.
Anyone up for another PI?
Stuck is guilty of a violation of the Code of Laws. As stated in Section H. 8. B, this poll should have been multiple choice.
I'm not calling a PI over this, but make sure you remember to make it multi-choice poll next time.
Stuck is guilty of a violation of the Code of Laws. As stated in Section H. 8. B, this poll should have been multiple choice.
I'm not calling a PI over this, but make sure you remember to make it multi-choice poll next time.
Grandmaster
Deity
Octavian, how is SaaM in violation because this poll isn't multiple choice? Last time I checked, Bill posted the poll, so unless you feel like PIing the Chief Justice (?) I don't think there's a problem here.
Stuck_as_a_Mac
Aptenodytes forsteri
Oct: not my polling. Its Bills doing. If you feel like PIing one of the framers, go right on ahead.
As a reiteration: not my doing
As a reiteration: not my doing
Cyc
Looking for the door...
Never mind, Octavian X. I'll explain it to them. Stuck was found to be in violation of the COL, Section B. This poll, according to Octavian violates COS Section H.8.B. He is not stating that Stuck is violating the poll standard, nor is he stating that he will PI Bill. Off to Rhineland with both of you.
Grandmaster
Deity
I might be mistaken, but it certainly sounds as though he's saying "SaaM is guilty of posting a messed up poll." Anyway, no harm, no foul.
Octavian X
is not a pipe.
I hate it when people misunderstand me. Then again, I could have been clearer. Bill is at fault, not SaaM. When posting this poll as Judge Advocate, he should have made it multi-choice.
Bill_in_PDX
Grumpy Submariner
Chief Justice Notes
Two things.
One, Octavian, check the judicial log for where we all agreed on how to post the multi choice poll and it's interpretation. I believe you agreed with the majority view, which is to post them as they are here.
Two, SaaM, you are convicted of the PI, and your sentence is a official warning.
Bill
Chief Justice
Two things.
One, Octavian, check the judicial log for where we all agreed on how to post the multi choice poll and it's interpretation. I believe you agreed with the majority view, which is to post them as they are here.
Two, SaaM, you are convicted of the PI, and your sentence is a official warning.
Bill
Chief Justice
Falcon02
General
Originally posted by Cyc
Quick! Where's my spear...
Watch it Cyc, those kinds of Penguins can be vicious, Just ask Linus Torvalds!
http://www.linuxmall.com/PenguinPower/whyapenguin
Cyc
Looking for the door...
Thanks Falc. I'll be sure and take my waddle iron 
Almightyjosh
Governor in Waiting
I 'wasted' my vote Stuck, just cos I like ya!
plus it gives me an oppertunity to point out what a vote for 'no punishment' means when reading this poll. As I have said in the past, when several options of varying degrees from one extreme of an issue to the other one must not simply look for the option that gets the biggest votes, but on what side of any given degree the majority lies. Think of it like an automatic preferencing system.
In this case, there is a spectrum form no punishment through to suspention. If for instance the votes fell like this:
Sus: 10
Warn: 8
No P: 6
One would not read the poll as having gone to suspention, but strongly to warning. This is done simply by assessing each interval, not each option. How many voted for a suspention, 10, how many voted for a lesser penalty, 14. Thus a lesser penalty then a suspention would be in order. Then, how many voted for a warning (or higher), 18, and how many voted for a lesser penalty, 6. Clearly in this case, a warning would be in order.
Essentially, if this was not the case, one could offer several similar options and split a certain vote. This has consistantly happened without remedy as I think our COS and out poll reading is not sophisticated enough.
In the case of the poll at hand, it seems one option, warning, has won a simple majority of votes. However, if it comes to it, my lone 'no punishment' vote MUST be counted as a vote for lesser punishment than suspention in the fashion I have above indicated.
See SAaM, I didn't throw my vote away!
plus it gives me an oppertunity to point out what a vote for 'no punishment' means when reading this poll. As I have said in the past, when several options of varying degrees from one extreme of an issue to the other one must not simply look for the option that gets the biggest votes, but on what side of any given degree the majority lies. Think of it like an automatic preferencing system.
In this case, there is a spectrum form no punishment through to suspention. If for instance the votes fell like this:
Sus: 10
Warn: 8
No P: 6
One would not read the poll as having gone to suspention, but strongly to warning. This is done simply by assessing each interval, not each option. How many voted for a suspention, 10, how many voted for a lesser penalty, 14. Thus a lesser penalty then a suspention would be in order. Then, how many voted for a warning (or higher), 18, and how many voted for a lesser penalty, 6. Clearly in this case, a warning would be in order.
Essentially, if this was not the case, one could offer several similar options and split a certain vote. This has consistantly happened without remedy as I think our COS and out poll reading is not sophisticated enough.
In the case of the poll at hand, it seems one option, warning, has won a simple majority of votes. However, if it comes to it, my lone 'no punishment' vote MUST be counted as a vote for lesser punishment than suspention in the fashion I have above indicated.
See SAaM, I didn't throw my vote away!
Ehecatl Atzin
Lore Master
Almightyjosh, quite an analysis on polls and their meaning, I'm impressed
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