[Series] 6 city is enough

[Monsterzuma]

Can we have the second starting save please? I'd like to play this.

 

[Inso]

11 turns from lib at...85AD? How is this possible with cottages and only two GS?

 

[mi6agent]

11 turns from lib at...85AD? How is this possible with cottages and only two GS?

easy, spam cottage non stop since 2300 BC.

 

[Crusher1]

You can get LIB pre 1AD - the important thing is being able to leverage your advantage.

 

[mi6agent]

You can get LIB pre 1AD - the important thing is being able to leverage your advantage.

yes of course, if this game I can trade for CoL or mathematics, it will be around 1 AD . The thing is you have to play Immortal for that , Emp AI is
but yeah , to have Lib fast is just good for your ego. The perfect time to have lib is round 1000 to have Steel, Rifling or other nice stuff

 

[yena]

How did you use the 2 GS? Are you planning to set up a GP farm later on?

 

[mi6agent]

1 for academy, 1 for half of Education
I never set up a proper GP farm. Ever ! With the food you can easily make 2 city full of cottage , which suit my play style more.
I just want to show that you dont need more than 2 GP to have very early Liberism. I dont deny the useful of GP however, but I think my strategy is not as map dependant.
Big game gonna come tonite hehe

 

[Tompa]

Did you build the Great Library? Do you intentionally mostly trade with only one AI (roosevelt) or is that a consequence of him being more advanced than the others?

 

[mi6agent]

no i dont built any world wonder, even i have stone and marble .
tech brokering is on so I'm willing to trade with everyone . But if some AI pleased with me and same religion and doesnt have lot of land, I'll trade more aggressive with him

 

[Duckweed]

Solid play. Leading the tech with a smaller empire is much better than a backward and large empire and this strategy is the key to play deity.

 

[ABigCivFan]

Proof that financial is the best trait, CE is the best economy and you only need 2 great scientist the whole game.

It is interesting people making these kind of claims based on one food rich/flood plain rich map. Try play the same Financial leader on a low food, no flood plain map.

Also a GP farm adds great flexibility to the game, especially with a Philo leader, you can get those much needed GS/GM/GA when you want them. such as a GM prior to War for mass upgrade, or to found Sushi corp, mutiple GS for multiple Acadamies (how can you say no to 50% res boost in your cottage spammed cities?). If the map does not allow cottage spam like this demo game, GS bulb can help a lot.

 

[mi6agent]

while I admit that my play rely heavily on my capital, it is standard that a capital should have 2 food resource or some thing similar (flood plain) . As for other cottage city, I dont need them grow more than size 10.
if you want to generate more GP, usually you'll need more food anyway. GP added more dynamic in our game, I agree. But it come with a cost. We have invest thousand of hammers if you are spam wonders, or build GL (which expensive without marble) and still need a high food city to make it work. I think GP benefit you more if you have a massive empire and need them to keep up with tech while recovering.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

while I admit that my play rely heavily on my capital, it is standard that a capital should have 2 food resource or some thing similar (flood plain) . As for other cottage city, I dont need them grow more than size 10.
if you want to generate more GP, usually you'll need more food anyway. GP added more dynamic in our game, I agree. But it come with a cost. We have invest thousand of hammers if you are spam wonders, or build GL (which expensive without marble) and still need a high food city to make it work. I think GP benefit you more if you have a massive empire and need them to keep up with tech while recovering.

Actually a capitol where you get nothing but 2 plains cows is just fine by the map making algorithm and has happened. Repeatedly.

 

[mi6agent]

3 fish/clam plus 1 corn/pig start is quite common too

 

[mi6agent]

taking about flood plain capital , today I continue the series and first map i have is

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flood plain and 3 gold mine , eh... ?

after regenerate , i have

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regenerate again and i have

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... again , then



I'm really mad . May be the RNG gods want me to win really bad, not my fault . ok plain wheat and 3 flood plain is nothing overpower , I'll play this
SETTINGS : Epic, Standard , Terra , 6 AIs , Immortal Diffculty , Choose Religion , Hut On . Leader Mansa Financial/Spiritual
save is 3.17

 

[Grumbling Bear]

Very interesting thread, most infomative. Could you please do the next one playing as Peter or Sitting Bull with no tech brokering?

 

[mi6agent]

will do a Peter game with no tech brokering
but the more i play with 6 city , I actually begin to think the optimal number of cities is 8 (on standard)

 

[ABigCivFan]

The optimal # of cities is as many as you can have without derailing your plans e.g. rushing for lib. And preferably each new city can grow quickly with farms/food resources and each new city can get at least 2 workers to improve the land.

 

[mi6agent]

when playing immortal although doing well I feel little insecure with 6 city . maybe i'm not good enough yet

 

[bhavv]

If you only have 6 cities on a standard map, then you cant build Oxford or Wall Street can you?

I dont believe that 6 cities is enough, you need 5 on a small map, 7 on standard, and 9 on large.

I enjoy rexing, but you cant be advising newcomers to the game to build less then the minimum cities required for Wall Street + Oxford.

Also I like to play with random events on as someone else said for the 'Build 7 of' events.

6 Cities is unnessesarilly handicaping yourself over 7 cities.

Unless I am wrong and 6 cities is enough, in which case ignore this post.