Sevomod: Feedback

[pine]

Mufin..
I am sure you will understand this, I have a condition that whenever I eat mufins I get an allergic reaction that results in a severe anaphylactic reaction. As such I find your choice of name disturbing....... This must be changed . Those are my wishes. I hope they will be fulfilled.
Thanks.

 

[Mufin]

Mr. hs1611

Oh, this was supposed to be the end of the discussion. You make me so sad.

I'm amazed. I'm amazed that you, one who talks so strongly against dictators and their supporters, seem to be one yourself.

I seem to be a dictator, oh really? Well, I've never thought I am a dictator.

And seriously, I am not telling Sevo what he must do.
I wrote:

Those are my wishes. I hope they will be fulfilled.

I think it is not clear for you. Read it sometimes and I hope you will understand soon.

Who are you to tell me I cannot play with Hitler

I tell you you cannot play with Hitler? Where do I tell you this? Please point me it. In fact my intent is much different. I want Sevo to change it so people can play it without being disgusted. I do not care what you play and who you play with. Next time think about your questions and do not state absurd sentences.

does not mean that all apply but that one apllies, so it does not have to mean that Hitler was very big and very good and large scale and important and title referring to an important leader it means Hitler was very big or very good or large scale or important or title referring to an important leader.

Really ? I do not know what think about you. You are either very funny or either verry foolish. And maybe both. Anyway, I'm so thankful for that lesson.

As for supressing Hitler's name and role in history, remember that "those that forget history are doomed to repeat it".

I do not want to forget history. I have no strength to reply same thing again and again. Quoting myself:

The same problem is here: if Sevo had placed Hitler as a "person", all would be clear. But he added him as a "great person".

Well, hs1611, you brought the smile back on my face. Next time think well what you write.

Dzhel,

You wrote:

Does this mean Firaxis and Sevo should erase any civilization that has ever harmed the innocent? There'd barely be a game left if that were the case I believe.

You all do not understand me. Read the above.

 

[Donkey Puncher]

Fine take him out as a "great person". but on a serious note dont they have an animated leaderhead for Hitlersevo should put this in as a leader for Germany how cool would it be to play as Isreal and kick his arse

 

[Donkey Puncher]

yes Please please ,please add assins that was one of the reason I played TR more than sevo was just that . Also give them the ability to steal worker and such just like the dyp on civ3 that would be awsome

 

[Spartan117]

And seriously, I am not telling Sevo what he must do.
I wrote:
I think it is not clear for you. Read it sometimes and I hope you will understand soon.

Those are my wishes. I hope they will be fulfilled.

Or I will say this...

I have two theories about this. You are a child who does not know who those people were. Or you have such sick views.

You have just foolishly chosen these ideas. I wish to believe that it is just your incompetence with choosing best fragments from other mods.

I am confused

You really need to calm down and stop with the name calling. FYI It is not very productive and is not really tolerated in these forums. Regardless of whether you think what should or what shouldn't be in the mod, you are in no place to start verbally attacking the creator of that given mod.

Just to play devil's advocate, Hitler's policies did allow Germany to get out of depression and mass unemployment.

That said

@Sevo

an ETA on the release for warlords?

 

[Mufin]

Spartan117,

Maybe you are right, I was to harsh for Sevo, although I think this is culpable to place Hitler as "Great Person", but well, you know that. Those are my wishes and not demands.

 

[Dzhel]

Mufin,

I did take your point a little off I think. I thought it was more about what they represented as opposed to what they are labeled.

I'm not even sure if you can add or change anything besides a "Great Person". Is that name hardcoded? If it is, then if you add them at all they'll be labeled as a "Great Person".

 

[AljayBoy]

. . . . anyway, back to the important point, anyone else think the Mi-26 should have it's cargo capacity increased?

 

[Hived]

I hope it is over now *g*
I have not yet played with the Mi-26, mostly I lead the game already before getting in modern Era ...or I am so far behind, that there is simply no chance anymore, to win. But in my opinion the cargo space should be increased... let's say by about 3 or 4 ;-)
That reminds me another problem in Civ-games:
You always come to a point, where you know, that you have won or lost the game... this often happens very early, when you have rushed an opponent or, on the other side, are enclosed by some Civs and have no early metal-ressources... or are on an island without coastal access to other islands.
When you know, you have lost, that should be no further problem. You just start a new game or finally leave the computer alone for some hours/days.
But when you know, that you will win the game, it becomes boring (espacially when it's a military victory), because you just have to 'finish it'. In Civ II, when trying a space-victory, the AI suddenly came with diplomats or spys, stealing the key-tech, when not yet having it... ok, that was a bit like cheating, but it brought back some action.
In Chess for example you can, although nearly having won the game, accidently loose your queen, so the game turns again...
but in CIV4... I don't know to 'fall back' in CIV4 again :-/

P.S.: Hey, AljayBoy: what is your opinion about the Barter-Civic?!

 

[Hived]

The actual problem with the barter-civic is that there really ain't an option besides it. Next stop mercantilism, a heck long of a time to run through. Though the barter makes pottery a much more valuable discovery, which is quite right to my line of thought.

Yes, that's why I made Barter more 'balanced'. There should be no 'must-have' civic and you should always be able to choose the better option.
In my case (barter gives -50% trade), you have to choose, if decentralism might be even better... then you simply have to wait for mercantilism... when being spiritual it may be also great to switch from decentralism to barter and back...
But when there is no negative effect about Barter, no one will even think about keeping decentralism.

 

[Arlborn]

. . . . anyway, back to the important point, anyone else think the Mi-26 should have it's cargo capacity increased?

Me!

And as a feedback note to Sevo regarding the already over discussion: No, my opnion and feedback is Not to take out Hitler and other bad guys from the game, as somebody already pointed out, if you gonna to take all people and things that made bad things in real life from the game, well, there will be no game

And keep the insults in diplomacy! They are funny! If you could, I would love if you even added more of then, specially the sarcastic ones!!

Ah, forgot to say, can you please add the "unit statistics" mod component? Its nice

 

[sidwannabe]

Sevo - for Gods' sake don't make any changes to this MOD just because one person is shrieking about it. Maybe one day, 2 or 3 years down the road, you can work on a 'no bad guys' MOD. Jesus, 2.5 pages of unreadable drivel...what a freakin' turnoff...

If ever somebody should be banned to being only a lurker...

Anyway...I was wondering if with all the 'work' you do on this MOD, do you ever get to play?

Sidwannabe
and you can quote me on that...

 

[Mufin]

Dzhel,

No, it is not hardcoded, it can be just erased from "Great People" list.
This is what I want to achieve.

I see Sevo prefers to "sit and watch" than just fix his mistake.

sidwannabe,

Jesus, 2.5 pages of unreadable drivel

Ah I see . I suggest you to read it and then comment. Maybe then you will understand something.

. . . . anyway, back to the important point, anyone else think the Mi-26 should have it's cargo capacity increased?

Oh I did not know how ignorant our community is. Truly horrible.

 

[Grave]

Dzhel,

No, it is not hardcoded, it can be just erased from "Great People" list.
This is what I want to achieve.

I see Sevo prefers to "sit and watch" than just fix his mistake.

sidwannabe,



Ah I see . I suggest you to read it and then comment. Maybe then you will understand something.



Oh I did not know how ignorant our community is. Truly horrible.

This is absolutely ridiculous. Sevo doesn't have to change a damn thing with his mod. If you don't like "Adolf Hitler" listed as a Great Statesman or what ever he is, just open up the XML doc in WORDPAD and fix it yourself. Or is that too difficult for you?

I think just because of you, Mufin, when I get around to releasing my new Add-On mod for Sevomod, I'm going to add the Adolf Hitler 3D Leaderhead and make him a new playable leader of Germany.

99.9% of people on here don't have a problem with it... I don't see why YOU have to practically Spam this thread for 2+ pages now and criticize Sevo's mod so much.

I think alot of people on here are forgeting the fact that Sevo is NOT obligated to make the mods that he does. He doesn't get paid for making anything. All his mods are a labor of love, and all he wants to do with these mods is make the Civ4 gaming experience a little more enjoyable for the rest of the modding community, by offering expanded gameplay options.

I for one am sick and tired of this petty nit-picking over a stupid name tag in the Great Person code. If you don't like it DON'T PLAY IT.



Sorry to vent in your thread Sevo, but this $h#t really pisses me off.

 

[Donkey Puncher]

amen brother,if you cant give something constructive to this forum GO AWAY
stop pissing and moaning,and for godsakes give it a rest this forum is here to make the gameplay better . It is not for nitpicky BS. If you have political statements to make Garretsidzaka has a political debate thread in his second revolution forum please go there to make your political statements

 

[Sevo]

Hi guys. Sorry--real life got busy for a bit there. Had to work over the weekend. Also, I'm developing one more component for this mod that's pretty much complete and I hope to get out quickly.

Anyway, lots of good ideas above. I agree that Religious Law is overpowered. I balanced as best I could but honestly, the best feedback I get is from you all. I'll nerf it down a bit. Barter will need to be decreased a bit as well, perhaps the -50 or -25% gold or some such thing.

Also got the notes on Pakbuild, nuke plant, AI not bombarding enough...what else...hmm...what else has been discussed in the mod? I feel like I'm missing something...what could it be? Oh, yeah, I was busing "sitting and watching":

This discussion is not pointless. I have a point. I want Sevo to delete these names from his mod so everyone can play it without being disgusted. And that is my point. As soon as he does it, I will play his mod, but not changing it myself by force.

Uuuummmmm...No. Guess you'll have to not play my mod.

I find your trolling tiresome and your inflammatory manner adolescent. I'll ignore your further commentary and I encourage the rest of you folks to do the same.

(Oh, and thank you all for the support and understanding in the face of all that horse$#!t. What a wad.)

<MUTE>Mufin</MUTE>

Mufin..
I am sure you will understand this, I have a condition that whenever I eat mufins I get an allergic reaction that results in a severe anaphylactic reaction. As such I find your choice of name disturbing....... This must be changed . Those are my wishes. I hope they will be fulfilled.
Thanks.

Pine--did I ever tell you my muffin joke? Two muffins are sitting in an oven. One muffin turns to the other and says, "Hey, is it me, or is it getting hot in here?", and the other muffin cries out in suprise, "Oh my god! A talking muffin!"





I still love that joke.

 

[Grave]

Pine--did I ever tell you my muffin joke? Two muffins are sitting in an oven. One muffin turns to the other and says, "Hey, is it me, or is it getting hot in here?", and the other muffin cries out in suprise, "Oh my god! A talking muffin!"





I still love that joke.

That reminds me of the joke Uma Thurman told in Pulp Fiction:

Three tomatoes are walking down the street- a pappa tomato, a mamma tomato, and a little baby tomato. Baby tomato starts lagging behind. Poppa tomato gets angry, goes over to the baby tomato, and smooshes him... and says, Catch up.

 

[Titi]

Yes, that's why I made Barter more 'balanced'. There should be no 'must-have' civic and you should always be able to choose the better option.

Tried a few of the other options, and yes barter as it is now is too "powerful": I was at 50% science, then went to mercantilism, to find out that I had to decrease science to 5 or 10% to keep some funds! (actually, I've now quit barter: with "Representation", "Free Market" and "Pacifism", I make more money -- but it's true I kept "Barter" most of the time!)

 

[Snerk]

Sevo, how about adding this one:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=187622
I really like the idea...

Aaaand.. , any news on the warlords release?

 

[rockinroger]

@ donkey puncher, i hope we can get that added, the assisns used to torment me silly in DYP. used to piss me off royally, lol. @Aijayboy yes i think troop capacity should be upgraded. now back too playing the GAME,GAME, GAME, hint hint hint