~ SG: Utopia of Babylon ~

[joespaniel]

Great work you two! Good solid turns.

I am in alot of pain at present, my root canal from Friday has gotten infected. Im doped up on vicadan, and in mood to do anything.

I'll try to check up, but dont expect to see me around for a couple days.

Good luck Charis.

 

[Charis]

I don't want to rush you or have you skip, joespaniel, so I'm going to take an extra day or so to get to this. Came up at same time in our two monster-military modern-era games, so that'll keep me hopping for at a minimum of one more day.

Hope ya feel better....

And Knight, Donsig... excellent turns!!

Charis

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Charis
And Knight, Donsig... excellent turns!!

Charis

Not really, during my turn. I was hoping we could get Washington and its wine but somehow the Americans began conscripting infantry. Even conscript inf fare well against cavalry, which we don't have in numbers. Plus the French were pulling out of the war.

So have to make peace and quit while we're ahead.

We're so close to taking Washington.

 

[joespaniel]

*cough-cough* ...switch...production... *cough*...cavalry needed...

...take... *big-cough* Warshington! <drops dead>

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Forget cavalry; we're gonna get tanks in a few more turns! Then we must somehow 'arrange' for the Americans to attk us. After we have built many tanks of coz.

 

[Charis]

1420 AD (0) - The previous generals get to the very DOORSTEP of Washington,
yet fall short. The people CLAMOR for action, one last push, and yet the
troops are not there. There is an army nearby?? Cool! Er... a 'Rifleman'
army?! Well, uh, that's different, haven't seen that before
Where are we with techs? Tanks in about 13 turns? Sweet. My, my, Cattle
Crossing has grown. A wonder city? Working on the great Dam? Nice!
And Fishpond is our leading producer? wow...

Well, actually it is in Abe's hands. We have an MPP with Egypt, and we
*WILL* defend our friends and our homeland. Far be it from us, the cultural
leaders of the planet to declare wear.

Abe... I urge you... choose wisely.

On the OFF chance he does not... I make preparations. Set Fishpond to Army
to hold some tanks Fill the existing army with cav. Babylon to troops.
Gosh, we are thin from a military perspective. (That's a relative term,
I don't mean thin as in paper-thin you can see through, like I'm used to)

Abe... you feelin' lucky? There are now *two* armies one step away from
your capital. Two rabid, doberman like, and yet highly cultured, armies, Abe...
(General Knight, btw, you put our reputation at risk here... making peace in
1380 for 20 turns while in an MPP with a country they're at war with. Eep,
Forlorn Hope is empty? You're baiting them! )

1425 AD (1) - No one bites, yet.
1430 AD (2) - No ante up. As cities finish orders, we start factories, banks...

1435 AD (3) - France and Egypt sign alliance vs America. France declares war on 'em
Abe orders a cav unit sent to cover Forlorn hope out of his territory
immediately. Yada yada yada. Several of the newly ordered artillery come
online. They stack in Peaceful Prairie.

1440 AD (4) - Abe still quiet??

1445 AD (5) - Our glorious colony feels the need for greater symmetry and
founds Copasetic Coast near Friendly Forest.

1450 AD (6) - America and Persia come to peace terms. Will Egypt ever do
anything Oh wait!! Here comes a single Egyptian Ironclad?! What is it
going to do?! Speaking of ships, we start our first Destroyer.

1455 AD (7) - Fishpond finishes its army and starts... the Pentagon
That army waits right there, for four tanks to arrive and fill it!

1460 AD (8) - "DA DAM!" DaDam DaDam DaDam... DaDam is complete! Production Soars.
Cattle Crossing now over 60 shields/turn, Wheat River even 60, Fishpond 80!

1465 AD (9) - Forlorn hope gets a good view of the French invasion
We mine a Babylon square for an even 60 shields output.

1470 AD (10) - A cultural marvel, the battleship, rolls out of Babylon
MMOW, land improving, things are looking super.

- Looks like we won't get war before Tanks. Abe chose wisely???!
- Might want to pump up luxury to 10% to get more happy folks and better score
- I don't think we've been the one to 'declare' war yet, so don't start now
* Where you see "Coal Plant", it's a Tank placeholder! We'll have half dozen
roll off the line turn 1 it arrives.

Good luck, (joespaniel is up)
Charis

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Charis
1420 AD (0) - The previous generals get to the very DOORSTEP of Washington, yet fall short. The people CLAMOR for action, one last push, and yet the troops are not there. There is an army nearby?? Cool! Er... a 'Rifleman' army?! Well, uh, that's different, haven't seen that before

I made the peace cos they're conscripting infantry in numbers. And only 1-2 cavalry. I fear our inf will be worn down by American cavalry and we're not really into replacements yet.

In fact, one was killed by a cavalry unit (it's one of those days). We didn't even take out 1 hp fr the American cavalry.

Gosh, we are thin from a military perspective. (That's a relative term, I don't mean thin as in paper-thin you can see through, like I'm used to)

It's not so bad; only need to mass troops in the west, along the American marches. My turn; we have whole cities inland that're ungarrisoned.

(General Knight, btw, you put our reputation at risk here... making peace in 1380 for 20 turns while in an MPP with a country they're at war with.

Who? I thought only MPP with France and Iroquise? Sorry, overlook it.

The French made peace, so time for us to stop as well. For the time being. Esp since we won't be making progress for awhile until we got tanks against inf.

Eep, Forlorn Hope is empty? You're baiting them! )

Nope, just can't move troops there w/o crossing American territory. Nothing conspiratorial.

 

[Charis]

>> Gosh, we are thin from a military perspective. (That's a relative
>> term, I don't mean thin as in paper-thin you can see through,
>> like I'm used to)

> It's not so bad; only need to mass troops in the west, along
> the American marches. My turn; we have whole cities inland
> that're ungarrisoned.

Hehe, ya, that's the "paper thin seethrough" I'm more used to. You're right, it's not bad at all.

Peace is the place to be right now. (After motor xport.... hope they do something "unwise")

Charis

 

[joespaniel]

Well Im feeling much better.

I will take my turn soon. Probably Friday.

 

[joespaniel]

At the start of my turn, the Americans were merely "admirers"...

Egypt is our main competition.

 

[joespaniel]

Treaties:

Ended MPP with Egypt, as I believe Persia is going to attack her, and I dont want to become embroiled in a war on the other continent. Also, Egypt is a major competitor in culture, so if they lose a few cities, well... *ahem*

We do have RoP with everyone except America.

America and France continue to slug it out, with no major changes in the situation. If America attacks us again, they are toast. We are the #1 military power now.

Purchased Espionage from France for 80 gold ( a bargain!).

Renegotiated luxury deals for more $$$.

Domestic Front:

Our military is tremendous. We have 1 tank army and another almost complete.

The Intelligence agency is complete (no spies have been planted yet...), as is the Pentagon (The nexy player can add 1 tank to the existing army now).

A new, powerfull navy is emerging. A carrier, 2 battleships and some destroyers now "discourage" our enemies on the seas. 2 more battlewagons and 2 tin cans on the way. We need transports for any possible future invasion and more destroyers for escorting the capitol ships.

Continued to build improvements in many cities, military production is confined to cities that need no more.

We just might make it to 100,000 points, lets keep building universities and cathedrals.

Sirian is up, good luck.

 

[Sirian]

The barbaric Iroquois have destroyed those poor pooooor Americans!

 

[Sirian]

IT 1500AD: Changed a few things around. We need more Police Stations if we are going to able to sustain a war without a lot of weariness. (Not that we need, or want, to go to war, but it IS wise to "be prepared" for contingencies.)

I also see that people have not been building any granaries.

1510AD: Cleopatra offers to pay us 120 gold and world map to "assist with the American Problem." Hey, always happy to lend a hand to our friends!

Our tanks roll into Washington.

Our tanks roll into New York.

1515AD: Our tanks roll into Atlanta.

1520AD: As our tanks watch as hordes upon hordes of Iroquois cavalry race past them to defeat the last of the Americans.

1525AD: We discover Flight and enter the modern era. That's enough excitement for me on one turn, I'm not going to seek another term in office this go-'round. I set most of our larger cities to building airports.


- Sirian

 

[joespaniel]

Oh sure, launch the last war of the game and quit.

Good land grab Sirian.

OK, donsig is up. I guess all we can do is continue to build as many cultural improvements as possible, and hope its enough by 2050 AD.

I would continue to trade luxuries for luxuries and $$$ but not technology. We dont want someone else to nuke us when we are about to win by culture...

It would be nice if we could keep all 8 luxuries in our cities.

In my SP game Im currently paying 50 gold per turn for 1 luxury, but it saves me 110 gold per turn since I dont need to set the luxury rate up any higher. I keep the tax rate up the extra point instead.

Just a helpfull hint.

Were coming down to the wire. I think we can pull it off.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by Sirian
IT 1500AD: Changed a few things around. We need more Police Stations if we are going to able to sustain a war without a lot of weariness. (Not that we need, or want, to go to war, but it IS wise to "be prepared" for contingencies.)

Also helps to cut down on corruption.

1510AD: Cleopatra offers to pay us 120 gold and world map to "assist with the American Problem." Hey, always happy to lend a hand to our friends!

Our tanks roll into Washington.

Our tanks roll into New York.

1515AD: Our tanks roll into Atlanta.

You make it sound so effortless.... I couldn't even scrap together enough cavalry to take Washington, which was down to its last conscript infantry, during my turn.

 

[joespaniel]

I left him 2 tank ARMIES and enough artillery to blow up the continent.

All this military hardware and no place to go with it... *sigh*

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by joespaniel
All this military hardware and no place to go with it... *sigh*

Resist the temptation, joe. Be strong.

 

[donsig]

1530 AD: RR building in 'America'. Persia and iroquois sign MPP.

1535: More RR building and pollution clean up on the side. We sign an MPP with France.

1540: There's and Iroquois settler near Buffalo. We're racing for the oil in that area. We do our best to cut Hiawatha off...

1545: our blocking efforts work as the purple settler turns back and we build Oil Gap between Buffalo and Houston. Smoly Mount is founded between St. Louis and LA.

1550: We're exporting gems to the Iroquois for 23 g/t. We try renegotiating but Hiawatha only offers his map and 370 gold. We dial up Cleo but she has a cash flow problem. We sell some Smoky Mount incense to Liz for 16 g/t and 190 up front. Sell Hiawatha's gems to Joan for 50 gold.

1555: We can make computers. Now our citizens can play Civ III - our culture should shoot way up now! We begin upgrading our armed forces. Hey, New Orleans is French!

1560: Hiawatha wants to swap territory maps. He's probably tweaked about our new gem deal with France. We're not giving him our maps so he can invade. Hey, St. Louis is French, too! Hippies riot in New York. They're still protesting the draft. War's over, wonder what they're smoking? The upgrading of the Cultural Police is more expensive than anticipated so we begin exporting incense to Persia for 260 down and 14g/t. Obsolete military units disbanded - but we keep our rifleman army. Most cities garrisoned with a mech, inf. - those that aren't have one spooled up.

Report of the commision to upgrade the Cultural Police:

Army Group 1: 3 rifles, 1 mech. inf.
Army Group 2: 4 vet. mech. inf.
Army Group 3: 4 tanks
Army Group 4: waiting to be filled with mech. inf. or something better
Army Group 5: see army group 4

We also have 11 vet and 2 elite tanks, 14 artillery (one on Colony Island), 40 workers and an explorer.

Navy: Carrier Task Force (CTF): battleship, destroyer and 2 carriers en route to the Great Bay. A bettleship, destroyer and transport in the southern part of the Great Bay. A battleship near Buffalo and a transport at Colony Island.

Air Force: 2 jets and a bomber with the CTF.

Recomendations: Invest in technology to upgrade our tanks. Build up air force. Build an airport on Colony Island. Build more destrpyers.

1565: Tanks and arty garrisoned in forts near Peaceful Prairie. Army Group 1 is with the arty. Army Group 2 is between Orleans and New Orleans. Army Group 3 is near Atlanta. Army Groups 4 & 5 near Fishpond.

1570: Seti started in Cattle Crossing (which was cranking out 105 beakers before the research lab was built.) Our newest battleship is dispatched to Colony Island. Luscious Lakes built near LA.

1575: Donsig steps down after 45 years at the helm. (It's been only ten turns?!?)

 

[donsig]

I built an army not knowing we already had 2 empty ones! Well, I was able to use one for mech. inf.!

The toughest choice I had was what to research after computers. Should we head for synthetic fibers so we can make modern armor? Go for space flight to build Apollo? Get fission for the UN? I opted for the latter hoping we'd build the UN and control those elections. Fishpond is building the palace as a placeholder for the UN!

Any cities that could build cultural improvements started them. Others built SAMs and coastal fortresses or police stations. I built (or started) many research labs - they produce culture and beakers!

We have 40,888 culture points but England and Egypt may be past the dreaded 50% mark. Babylon will expand to 5 in 37 turns...

 

[joespaniel]

Very nice, donsig.

UN was a good choice by me. We can probably win right now with a UN vote.

Knight-Dragon is up.

Fishpond awaits your technological advancement.

Victory may be at hand!

(Then we can start the American SG.)