SGFN-08: Random AWM Succession Game

[DWetzel]

To stress: speed is not a major factor in our decimation of our continent, or quite frankly for the smaller islands including Scandinavia. Don't rush any units, and don't get crazy trying to take out towns and/or units any faster than you have to. Conserving units is a good idea, because it means we don't need to send any more units in that direction (especially Scandinavia).

The limiting factor on how fast we finish the game is the speed at which we can get units over to Beta continent and take over there.

 

[DWetzel]

I'd say build settlers in Leipzig for Scandinavia, along with workers for railing.

This is clearly correct -- and build them from a bunch of our smaller towns in the Dutch area, and possibly Greece, as well.

 

[Lanzelot]

If Sparthage is ready to play, I'll take my turn after

Sounds like a good idea to me! Sparthage already put work into it investigating the current situation, so he should play now.

 

[splunge the 2nd]

Sounds like a good idea to me! Sparthage already put work into it investigating the current situation, so he should play now.

Cool-I'm on deck barring any objections

 

[Sparthage]

Plans/Notes for the Turnset:
-Wait to take Pergamon until we get artillery and longbows there.
-Add a cav to Zieten-Husaren next turn. But don't make it size 4.
-The Beta Army is fortified so it can heal and continue it's march next turn.
-Getting technologies as quickly as possible.
-Prep the invasion force for the Vikings with 3+ Cavs. Land next to Stockholm
-The spear army is to heal, then explore.
-Prep an invasion force for the Sippar/Ixtapaluca island.
-The settler from Athens will settle 2E of Athens.
-The settler at Hannover will hop into the waiting galley and settle on the plains tile between Thessalonica and Knossos.
-The settler in Eindhoven is on its way to the jungle tile between Knossos and Marathon.
-The settler under construction in Knossos will settle 2SE of Knossos.
-Research towards Steam while getting the required techs in 4-5 turns each.
-The army on beta continent should be used for exploring and pillaging iron, saltpeter, and luxes.
-Minimize losses

My invasion strategy will be up in a little bit. Did I miss anything key?

 

[Lanzelot]

Looks good.

Just for you to know: I'll be on a bicycle tour without internet access the next two days. (Unless it pours like it did today...)

 

[Sparthage]

Ooohh... biking. Fun. That's why I was gone about a month ago, went on a 400 mile, 5 day, bike trip.

 

[TheOverseer714]

I'd rather bike there than here, europeans seem to respect bicycling more than here in the states.

 

[Sparthage]

Yeah. You wouldn't (oh wait, you would) realize how many dirty looks, gestures, and words were flung at me as I pedaled.

 

[DWetzel]

Looks basically good. I'd get worker groups gathered just before we enter the next age; in an ideal case we'll get Steam for free, and we'll be able to start rails right away. (I'll bet multiple shiny pennies that there's some in the jungle if we don't already have some roaded up.)

 

[Sparthage]

Here is the Turn Log after 6 Turns...

Spoiler :

Turn 0 (1150 AD)- Determine that 1 Cavalry is not enough to defend our Treb stack next to Ergili, and send the 2nd Longbows to help.

IBT- Bunch of Galley movements off the East coast, no landings.
2 Aztec Muskets move into view of the Beta Army.
2nd Longbows kills vet Persian Longbow attacking from Ergili, no HP lost, Musket promoted to elite.
1 Persian longbow moves away from Dariush Kabir
Athens: Settler=> Worker (10 Turns)
Rotterdam: Musket=> Cav (14 Turns)
Resistance in Sidon ends.
Stuttgart: Courthouse=> Cav (8 Turns)
The Aztecs are building Shakespeare’s Theater
The Russians are building Magellan’s Voyage

Turn 1 (1160 AD)- Send Athens settler to designated position
Drop science to 90% (-42 gpt)
Send Eindhoven settler to designated position
Trebuchets hit Ergili w/ 50% accuracy uncovering that there are 2 Muskets
Veteran Cav kills Persian 2/3 Musket at Ergili, no HP lost.
Horsa kills Persian 2/3 Musket at Ergili, 2 HP lost, Ergili Captured and 1 Gold “liberated”.
Ergili: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/3 Musket at Dariush Kabir, no HP lost
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 4/4 Spear at Dariush Kabir, no HP lost, Dariush Kabir Captured and 1 gold “liberated”.
Dariush Kabir: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)

IBT- More Galley movement, still no landings
Theory of Gravity in, begin Magnetism (6 Turns)
Antioch riots
Corinth: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)
Utrecht: Lib=> Aqueduct (20 Turns)
Resistance ends in both Ergili and Dariush Kabir
Waste Not: Settler=> Worker (10 Turns)
Brandenburg: Worker=> Worker (10 Turns)

Turn 2 (1170 AD)- Drop Science to 80% (-8gpt), still Magnetism in 6 Turns
Build Boy I’m Thirsty with the Athenian settler.
Boy I’m Thirsty: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Beta Army finds a source of Aztec gunpowder to be destroyed next turn
Zieten-Husaren kills Babylonian 4/4 Pike at Izibia, 6 HP lost.
Hengst kills Babylonian 3/3 Spear, 2 HP lost, Izibia captured.
Izibia: Nada=> Settler (30 Turns)
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/3 Longbow outside of Dariush Kabir, no HP lost.

IBT- More Galley movement, Aztecs land a Ancient Cav and Jaguar near Sidon
We get another crusader
Mycenae: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)
Bonn: Courthouse=> University (15 Turns)
Aztecs finish Copernicus’ Observatory in Tenochtitlan
The Vikings are building Magellan’s Voyage
The Russians are building Shakespeare’s Theater

Turn 3 (1180 AD)- Trebs pound the Aztec invaders (They got in their way) with 75% accuracy.
eLongbow retreats Aztec 2/5 Ancient Cav near Sidon, 1 HP lost.
eLongbowman kills Aztec 3/3 Jaguar near Sidon, no HP lost
vet Horseman kills Aztec 1/5 Ancient Cav between Sidon and Persepolis
eHorseman kills Persian 3/3 Longbowman near Arbela
Bananas Are Fruits founded in the Jungle Between Marathon and Knossos
Bananas Are Fruits: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Beta Army pillages the Aztec Gunpowder

IBT- More Galley movement
Are the Aztecs at war? More Cavalry and Musketmen move south towards Russia
Leipzig: Settler=> Settler (5 Turns)
Hamburg: Cav=> Cav (7 Turns)
Heidelburg the Second: Cav=> University (13 Turns)
The Babylonians are building Magellan’s Voyage

Turn 4 (1190 AD)- Trebs hammer Pergamon with 25% accuracy.
Barbarossa kills Greek 3/3 Hoplite in Pergamon, loses 6 HP.
Barbarossa kills Greek 3/4 Hoplite in Pergamon, loses 5 HP, burns Pergamon to ground.
Build Spartan Encampment between Thessalonica and Sparta.
Spartan Encampment: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Build Lake Sparta to take control of the Interior Sea
Lake Sparta: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/3 Musket in Jinjan, 1 HP lost
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/3 Musket in Jinjan, 1 HP lost, Jinjan captured.
Jinjan: Nada=> Wealth (1 Turn)

IBT- More Ship Movement
Babylonian attack units sighted heading north (they have a right of passage with Aztecs)
Bactra and Antioch riot, assign Tax Collectors and Scientists
Koln: Musket=> Cav (14 Turns)
The Aztecs are building Shakespeare’s Theater

Turn 5 (1200 AD)- Hit a Aztec galley with a Cannon
Operation Pillage (The Invasion of Scandinavia) sets out from Konigsberg, and will arrive next turn.
Zieten-Husaren kills Greek 3/3 Hoplite in Artemisium, 2 HP lost.
Zieten-Husaren kills Greek 3/3 Hoplite in Artemisium, no HP lost, Artemisium captured…

Artemisium: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Rename Artemisium “Eat Horse, Alex!”
vHorseman kills Persian 3/3 Longbow south of Pasargadae, 1 HP lost.
Build Hey Bambi on North Coast of Former Greece
Hey Bambi: Nada=> Settler (30 Turns)

IBT- Many Ships run away.
Viking 3/3 Berserker kills 4/4 Musket NW of Stockholm, promoted to Vet.
Berlin: Cav=> University (8 Turns)
Konigsberg: University=> Settler (5 Turns)
Nurnberg: Cav=> Cav (16 Turns)
Ghulaman: Worker=> Settler (30 Turns)
Heidelberg the Third: Caravel=> Library (20 Turns)
The Babylonians finish the Sistine Chapel in Babylon
The Aztecs finish Shakespeare’s Theater in Tlaxcala
The Russians finish Magellan’s Voyage in Moscow

Turn 6 (1210 AD)- Nail Sardis with 75% Treb accuracy
Horsa kills Persian 2/3 Pike in Sardis, loses 2 HP.
Horsa kills Persian 3/3 Spear in Sardis, loses 2 HP.
2nd Longbows kills Persian 3/4 Spear in Sardis, loses 1 HP.
2nd Longbows kills Persian 3/4 Spear in Sardis, loses 2 HP, city captured, 1 galley torched in harbor. Persians now have 2 cities.
Sardis: Nada=> Worker
Torch a Persian Fur Colony
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Stockholm, redlined.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Stockholm, loses 1 HP, promoted to Elite, Stockholm captured.
Stockholm: Nada=> Harbor (30 Turns)
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Bergen, loses 2 HP.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Bergen, loses 2 HP.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Berserker in Bergen, loses 1 HP, Bergen captured.
Bergen: Nada=> Wealth
Lower Science to 60% (+43 gpt) Magnetism still in 2 Turns
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/4 Knight NE of Jinjan, 1 HP lost.

Invasion Plans:

Halfway Notes:
-I'll probably destroy the Persians during my set because they have 3 cites right next to each other.
-Invasion Plans
-At the end of my set We'll probably have Trondheim with the extra cavs for Oslo on the way.
-We'll have to make more plans as we discover the interior of the island which is why mine aren't very detailed.

If anyone wants the save to look at, you can ask me, but I'm not done yet. I'll play the remaining 4 turns tomorrow or Tuesday.

 

[GamezRule]

Yeah. You wouldn't (oh wait, you would) realize how many dirty looks, gestures, and words were flung at me as I pedaled.

It was probably me. Anyway nice job so far.

 

[splunge the 2nd]

Keep up the good work! Great turnset so far.

 

[Sparthage]

I would have to agree. We've only lost one unit over the entire set and eliminated a civ.

 

[Sparthage]

Back to Civ III...

THE COMPLETE TURN LOG

Spoiler :

Turn 0 (1150 AD)- Determine that 1 Cavalry is not enough to defend our Treb stack next to Ergili, and send the 2nd Longbows to help.

IBT- Bunch of Galley movements off the East coast, no landings.
2 Aztec Muskets move into view of the Beta Army.
2nd Longbows kills vet Persian Longbow attacking from Ergili, no HP lost, Musket promoted to elite.
1 Persian longbow moves away from Dariush Kabir
Athens: Settler=> Worker (10 Turns)
Rotterdam: Musket=> Cav (14 Turns)
Resistance in Sidon ends.
Stuttgart: Courthouse=> Cav (8 Turns)
The Aztecs are building Shakespeare’s Theater
The Russians are building Magellan’s Voyage

Turn 1 (1160 AD)- Send Athens settler to designated position
Drop science to 90% (-42 gpt)
Send Eindhoven settler to designated position
Trebuchets hit Ergili w/ 50% accuracy uncovering that there are 2 Muskets
Veteran Cav kills Persian 2/3 Musket at Ergili, no HP lost.
Horsa kills Persian 2/3 Musket at Ergili, 2 HP lost, Ergili Captured and 1 Gold “liberated”.
Ergili: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/3 Musket at Dariush Kabir, no HP lost
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 4/4 Spear at Dariush Kabir, no HP lost, Dariush Kabir Captured and 1 gold “liberated”.
Dariush Kabir: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)

IBT- More Galley movement, still no landings
Theory of Gravity in, begin Magnetism (6 Turns)
Antioch riots
Corinth: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)
Utrecht: Lib=> Aqueduct (20 Turns)
Resistance ends in both Ergili and Dariush Kabir
Waste Not: Settler=> Worker (10 Turns)
Brandenburg: Worker=> Worker (10 Turns)

Turn 2 (1170 AD)- Drop Science to 80% (-8gpt), still Magnetism in 6 Turns
Build Boy I’m Thirsty with the Athenian settler.
Boy I’m Thirsty: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Beta Army finds a source of Aztec gunpowder to be destroyed next turn
Zieten-Husaren kills Babylonian 4/4 Pike at Izibia, 6 HP lost.
Hengst kills Babylonian 3/3 Spear, 2 HP lost, Izibia captured.
Izibia: Nada=> Settler (30 Turns)
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/3 Longbow outside of Dariush Kabir, no HP lost.

IBT- More Galley movement, Aztecs land a Ancient Cav and Jaguar near Sidon
We get another crusader
Mycenae: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)
Bonn: Courthouse=> University (15 Turns)
Aztecs finish Copernicus’ Observatory in Tenochtitlan
The Vikings are building Magellan’s Voyage
The Russians are building Shakespeare’s Theater

Turn 3 (1180 AD)- Trebs pound the Aztec invaders (They got in their way) with 75% accuracy.
eLongbow retreats Aztec 2/5 Ancient Cav near Sidon, 1 HP lost.
eLongbowman kills Aztec 3/3 Jaguar near Sidon, no HP lost
vet Horseman kills Aztec 1/5 Ancient Cav between Sidon and Persepolis
eHorseman kills Persian 3/3 Longbowman near Arbela
Bananas Are Fruits founded in the Jungle Between Marathon and Knossos
Bananas Are Fruits: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Beta Army pillages the Aztec Gunpowder

IBT- More Galley movement
Are the Aztecs at war? More Cavalry and Musketmen move south towards Russia
Leipzig: Settler=> Settler (5 Turns)
Hamburg: Cav=> Cav (7 Turns)
Heidelburg the Second: Cav=> University (13 Turns)
The Babylonians are building Magellan’s Voyage

Turn 4 (1190 AD)- Trebs hammer Pergamon with 25% accuracy.
Barbarossa kills Greek 3/3 Hoplite in Pergamon, loses 6 HP.
Barbarossa kills Greek 3/4 Hoplite in Pergamon, loses 5 HP, burns Pergamon to ground.
Build Spartan Encampment between Thessalonica and Sparta.
Spartan Encampment: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Build Lake Sparta to take control of the Interior Sea
Lake Sparta: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/3 Musket in Jinjan, 1 HP lost
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/3 Musket in Jinjan, 1 HP lost, Jinjan captured.
Jinjan: Nada=> Wealth (1 Turn)

IBT- More Ship Movement
Babylonian attack units sighted heading north (they have a right of passage with Aztecs)
Bactra and Antioch riot, assign Tax Collectors and Scientists
Koln: Musket=> Cav (14 Turns)
The Aztecs are building Shakespeare’s Theater

Turn 5 (1200 AD)- Hit a Aztec galley with a Cannon
Operation Pillage (The Invasion of Scandinavia) sets out from Konigsberg, and will arrive next turn.
Zieten-Husaren kills Greek 3/3 Hoplite in Artemisium, 2 HP lost.
Zieten-Husaren kills Greek 3/3 Hoplite in Artemisium, no HP lost, Artemisium captured…

Artemisium: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Rename Artemisium “Eat Horse, Alex!”
vHorseman kills Persian 3/3 Longbow south of Pasargadae, 1 HP lost.
Build Hey Bambi on North Coast of Former Greece
Hey Bambi: Nada=> Settler (30 Turns)

IBT- Many Ships run away.
Viking 3/3 Berserker kills 4/4 Musket NW of Stockholm, promoted to Vet.
Berlin: Cav=> University (8 Turns)
Konigsberg: University=> Settler (5 Turns)
Nurnberg: Cav=> Cav (16 Turns)
Ghulaman: Worker=> Settler (30 Turns)
Heidelberg the Third: Caravel=> Library (20 Turns)
The Babylonians finish the Sistine Chapel in Babylon
The Aztecs finish Shakespeare’s Theater in Tlaxcala
The Russians finish Magellan’s Voyage in Moscow

Turn 6 (1210 AD)- Nail Sardis with 75% Treb accuracy
Horsa kills Persian 2/3 Pike in Sardis, loses 2 HP.
Horsa kills Persian 3/3 Spear in Sardis, loses 2 HP.
2nd Longbows kills Persian 3/4 Spear in Sardis, loses 1 HP.
2nd Longbows kills Persian 3/4 Spear in Sardis, loses 2 HP, city captured, 1 galley torched in harbor. Persians now have 2 cities.
Sardis: Nada=> Worker
Torch a Persian Fur Colony
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Stockholm, redlined.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Stockholm, loses 1 HP, promoted to Elite, Stockholm captured.
Stockholm: Nada=> Harbor (30 Turns)
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Bergen, loses 2 HP.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Bergen, loses 2 HP.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Berserker in Bergen, loses 1 HP, Bergen captured.
Bergen: Nada=> Wealth
Lower Science to 60% (+43 gpt) Magnetism still in 2 Turns
1st Cavalry Army kills Persian 3/4 Knight NE of Jinjan, 1 HP lost.

IBT- Viking 4/4 Berserker kills vMusket S of Bergen, loses 1 HP.
More ship movement
More Aztecs going south
A Persian Longbow moves to the tile W of Sardis
Antioch and Stockholm riot
Hannover: Cav=> Cav (8 Turns)
Rhodes: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)
Safety Hill: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)

Turn 7 (1220 AD)- eHorseman retreats from Persian 3/3 Longbowman W of Sardis, Longbow loses 1 HP.
3/4 Horseman kills Persian 2/3 Longbow W of Sardis, redlined.
vCrusader kills Viking 3/4 Berserker SW of Bergen, 1 HP lost.
Build Konigsberg between Ghalaman and Zohak
Konigsberg: Nada=> Worker
vCavalry kills Persian 3/3 Spearman in Samaria, no HP lost.
2nd Longbows kills Persian 3/3 Spearman in Samaria, 6 HP lost, Samaria captured and 6 gold “liberated”
Samaria: Nada=> Settler (30 Turns)
Oslo Attack Force departs Konigsberg.
Increase Science to 70% (+16 gpt) Magnetism in 1 Turn

IBT- More ship movement
Magnetism in, our free tech is Medicine, begin Steam Power in 12 Turns
Greek Leek: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)

Turn 8 (1230 AD)- Zieten-Husaren kills Persian 3/3 Spear in Heuxotla, no HP lost
Zieten-Husaren kills Persian 3/3 Spear in Heuxotla, 1 HP lost, Heuxotla captured and 1 gold “liberated”, 1 Caravel torched in harbor
Huexotla: Nada=> Spear (20 Turns)
eCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Trondheim, 2 HP lost.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Trondheim, 1 HP lost.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Trondheim, 1 HP lost.
vCav kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Trondheim, 1 HP lost, Trondheim captured and 1 gold “liberated”
Trondheim: Nada=> Settler (30 Turns)
Increase Science to 80% (-18 gpt) Steam Power in 10 Turns.

IBT- More Ship moves
Amsterdam: Cav=> Cav (9 Turns)
Leipzig: Settler=> Settler (5 Turns)
Stuttgart: Cav=> Cannon (4 Turns)
Leatherworks: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)
Sardis, Ghulaman, and Trondheim riot

Turn 9 (1240 AD)- Hammer Istakhr with 8 trebs (75% accuracy)
Persian 1/3 Musket in Istakhr kills vCav, no HP lost
Horsa kills 1/3 Musket in Istakhr, no HP lost
Horsa kills 1/3 Spear in Istakhr, no HP lost
2nd Longbows kills 1/3 Longbowman in Istakhr, no HP lost, Istakhr captured and 13 gold “liberated”

Istakhr: Nada=> Settler (30 Turns)
Rename Istakhr to “The Immortals are Dead”
Land Oslo Task force at Bergen, march north.
vCavalry kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Oslo, 1 HP lost
vCavalry kills Viking 3/3 Pike in Oslo, 2 HP lost, Oslo captured, 1 Caravel destroyed in harbor.
Oslo: Nada=> Settler (30 Turns)
Zieten-Husaren kills Russian 3/3 Pike in Murmansk, 3 HP lost.
Zieten-Husaren kills Russian 3/3 Spear in Murmansk, no HP lost.
eCavalry kills Russian 3/3 Longbow in Murmansk, no HP lost, Murmansk captured and 5 gold “liberated”, 1 galley torched in harbor.
WE ARE THE ONLY ONES ON OUR CONTINENT!
Murmansk: Nada=> Spearman (20 Turns)

IBT- Bresau: Settler=> Settler (30 Turns)

Turn 10 (1250 AD)- Build Murky Munich between Ghulaman and Ephesus
Murky Munich: Nada=> Worker (10 Turns)
Increase Science to 90% (-48 gpt) Steam Power in 7 Turns

Invasion Plans: Part II:

I think I achieved my goal of few losses...
We lost 2 Musketmen and a Cavalry over 10 Turns

 

[splunge the 2nd]

Great turnset and invasion plan looks good.
Got the save. I'll review it.

Addendum-looks good. Curious-is the explorer in Arbela prebuild or do we have plans for it? I haven't used exporers much.
Our armies are stuck on the continent but we can ship the 3 unit cav army with galleon, I'll plan to build one and ship it to the little island? Beta Continent? Sweden?

The Vikings are on the ropes. We continue to pillage and mess up beta continent so who's next?

We're broke and will hit 0 gold in 2 turns. I'll have to cut research. We have lots of oppurtunity for science farming on the former Greek and Persian lands.

Regarding the Greek and Persian lands, are we looking to settle loosely to maximize our territory towards early domination or close to make railing quicker or settling based on terrain to make better fed farms?

The galley flotilla off our coast-remind me, is that to fend off enemy landings? Keep AI galleys from buzzing us and messing up our working sea tiles?

 

[TheOverseer714]

Great work! In the bag is so right, now the task will be ending in style.

 

[DWetzel]

Explorers under an army on Beta continent would be awesome -- the little buggers can scurry around and pillage resources (and then die, but whatever) like nobody's business.

Edit: I'd think the 3-cav army belongs on Beta; send a second ship with another cav to add in to it.

Regarding settling, I'd probably go ahead and settle for land first and science second; I don't think we'll need much after Steam.

 

[splunge the 2nd]

I'll play some this evening. Real life has demands.

 

[Lanzelot]

Great job! Especially the well-conducted invasion in Scandinavia. (Indeed we didn't need an Army over there, and you proved it.)
The only slight slackness is: no ships ready in the Murmansk area and at Ergili for attacking the islands...

We now have the exact value of the domination limit: only 511 tiles missing! 357 can be settled on our continent, 100 more on Scandinavia, and the three island will give us the rest. Perhaps we should already send our Beta Army north again to take and keep 2-3 undefended Babylonian/Aztec towns. Both are without saltpeter, so that should be possible. Then we don't need to tackle the Russian bear.