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BeefontheBone
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Don't listen to him, he's a misspelt, unsuccessful, pretentiously named and entirely naff euroskeptic political party started by the permaglow-coated former chat-show host Robert Kilroy Silk, a muppet of the highest order. 
Sadan01
Conical Flask
BeefontheBone said:...a muppet of the highest order.
Having a secret dig at me Beef?
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
hey peeps, I finished. Not much happened.
Turn 337 (1535 AD)
AK: If I didn't mention it before we're running at 100% FLASKS
Beijing finishes: Harbor
Turn 338 (1540 AD)
Ling Lun (Great Artist) born in Beijing
Turn 339 (1545 AD)
Beijing begins: Grocer
AK: Artist in Beijing. Hold for now.
Ironchou grows: 11
Turn 340 (1550 AD)
Turn 341 (1555 AD)
Machu Picchu's borders expand
Turn 342 (1560 AD)
AK: Ling Lun is hanging out in Beijing looking for a place to plant a CB
MT due soon. Start building the ponies. run to cannon next?
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Lord_n00b_AD-1560.Civ4SavedGame
Turn 337 (1535 AD)
AK: If I didn't mention it before we're running at 100% FLASKS
Beijing finishes: Harbor
Turn 338 (1540 AD)
Ling Lun (Great Artist) born in Beijing
Turn 339 (1545 AD)
Beijing begins: Grocer
AK: Artist in Beijing. Hold for now.
Ironchou grows: 11
Turn 340 (1550 AD)
Turn 341 (1555 AD)
Machu Picchu's borders expand
Turn 342 (1560 AD)
AK: Ling Lun is hanging out in Beijing looking for a place to plant a CB
MT due soon. Start building the ponies. run to cannon next?
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/Lord_n00b_AD-1560.Civ4SavedGame
Sadan01
Conical Flask
AK's TurnLog said:
Oh oh... What can we culture bomb?
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
since we don't seem to be too concerned with spam,
what does this mean?
BeefontheBone
Windbag of the sea
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naff: British idiom, meaning rubbish, a bit crappy, old-fashioned, not up-to-scratch.
muppet: ditto, recent, meaning idiot or fool (not a dig at Sadan - I love the Muppets with a capital M).
muppet: ditto, recent, meaning idiot or fool (not a dig at Sadan - I love the Muppets with a capital M).
Pie-es-Tasty
Comrade
Okay, now I've got the save.
I've been playing Advance Wars all day today. I can't help but think how much easier war against Inca or Azteca would be if we could use CO powers, like Sensei's (free mech infantry in every city).
I've been playing Advance Wars all day today. I can't help but think how much easier war against Inca or Azteca would be if we could use CO powers, like Sensei's (free mech infantry in every city).
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
pie, build the cavs and whoever is next will kill them
so when I see naff, you're talking about me?
Pie-es-Tasty
Comrade
Turn 0 (1560 AD):
Wow nice job clearing out all that jungle. I order a mine for the unmoved worker and the other unmoved worker moves down to Texcoco to help with jungle removal. Sleep the Great Artist, he could be useful in an emergency or a war later.
Turn 1 (1565 AD):
Were leaking money faster than a thing with a lot of holes in it (Im too tired to think of an analogy) so I turn science down to 70%, while still getting Military Tradition in 1 turn. More worker actions.
Turn 2 (1570 AD):
Mansa Musa cancels gold for spices deal or something. Well, somehow we arent getting spices for gold any longer. Military Tradition comes in, I queue up Printing Press for the extra gold from towns and villages and such.
Turn 3 (1575 AD):
Shanghai doesnt really need a courthouse right now, so I change to a cavalry. Also, put science back up to 80%.
Turn 4 (1580 AD):
Shuffling workers around is all.
Turn 5 (1585 AD):
Another uneventful turn other than shuffling tiles around in the cities.
Turn 6 (1590 AD):
Beijing finishes grocer, starts cavalry. More worker actions.
Turn 7 (1595 AD):
Machu Picchu finishes Christian Monastery, starts Barracks, just because theres nothing else pressing to build. Also, I shuffle tiles around so it will grow faster.
Turn 8 (1600 AD):
Snore.
Turn 9 (1605 AD):
Pliny rates us as number 3 of the worlds most powerful nations. Angle finishes Heroic Epic, starts a cavalry. Guangzhou finishes the Hermitage and starts a cavalry.
Turn 10 (1610 AD):
Another snore.
End of turn thoughts:
Printing Press due in two, which should alleviate some if not most of our debt. I didnt get any cavalry built, but theres one in three from Beijing, and a few more coming soon after. Nothing much happened. Can you believe my entire report fit on one Microsoft Word page? Take it away Sir Toma.
Wow nice job clearing out all that jungle. I order a mine for the unmoved worker and the other unmoved worker moves down to Texcoco to help with jungle removal. Sleep the Great Artist, he could be useful in an emergency or a war later.
Turn 1 (1565 AD):
Were leaking money faster than a thing with a lot of holes in it (Im too tired to think of an analogy) so I turn science down to 70%, while still getting Military Tradition in 1 turn. More worker actions.
Turn 2 (1570 AD):
Mansa Musa cancels gold for spices deal or something. Well, somehow we arent getting spices for gold any longer. Military Tradition comes in, I queue up Printing Press for the extra gold from towns and villages and such.
Turn 3 (1575 AD):
Shanghai doesnt really need a courthouse right now, so I change to a cavalry. Also, put science back up to 80%.
Turn 4 (1580 AD):
Shuffling workers around is all.
Turn 5 (1585 AD):
Another uneventful turn other than shuffling tiles around in the cities.
Turn 6 (1590 AD):
Beijing finishes grocer, starts cavalry. More worker actions.
Turn 7 (1595 AD):
Machu Picchu finishes Christian Monastery, starts Barracks, just because theres nothing else pressing to build. Also, I shuffle tiles around so it will grow faster.
Turn 8 (1600 AD):
Snore.
Turn 9 (1605 AD):
Pliny rates us as number 3 of the worlds most powerful nations. Angle finishes Heroic Epic, starts a cavalry. Guangzhou finishes the Hermitage and starts a cavalry.
Turn 10 (1610 AD):
Another snore.
End of turn thoughts:
Printing Press due in two, which should alleviate some if not most of our debt. I didnt get any cavalry built, but theres one in three from Beijing, and a few more coming soon after. Nothing much happened. Can you believe my entire report fit on one Microsoft Word page? Take it away Sir Toma.
Sir Toma
Warlord
Yay its my go!!!
I've got the save and will play shortly.
Aims:
Build up a very large military.
Die you aztec scum
I've got the save and will play shortly.
Aims:
Build up a very large military.
Die you aztec scum
Sir Toma
Warlord
Turn 0 (1610 AD)
Ironchou finishes: Market
Tlacopan grows: 3
Turn 1 (1615 AD)
Tech learned: Printing Press
Turn 2 (1620 AD)
Research begun: Drama
I'm amazed that you guys hadn't researched Drama earlier
Beijing finishes: Cavalry
Shanghai finishes: Cavalry
Ironchou finishes: Christian Monastery
Turn 3 (1625 AD)
Beijing begins: Cavalry
Ironchou begins: Barracks
Tech learned: Drama
Good Enough finishes: Market
Ironchou grows: 12
Turn 4 (1630 AD)
Research begun: Education
Research begun: Chemistry
We need some Grenadiers
Angle finishes: Cavalry
Machu Picchu grows: 4
Turn 5 (1635 AD)
Angle begins: Musketman
User comment: We're going to need alot more defence in case we begin to lose the war
Shanghai finishes: Courthouse
Turn 6 (1640 AD)
Beijing finishes: Cavalry
Turn 7 (1645 AD)
Beijing begins: Catapult
Guangzhou finishes: Cavalry
Turn 8 (1650 AD)
Guangzhou begins: Musketman
Good Enough finishes: Christian Temple
Angle finishes: Musketman
Turn 9 (1652 AD)
Good Enough begins: Granary
Angle begins: Galley
I built the galley because i have a plan.
We can send a couple of cavalry over there and take the city on the same turn that we decalre war.
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Beijing finishes: Catapult
Ironchou finishes: Barracks
Turn 10 (1654 AD)
Beijing begins: Musketman
Ironchou begins: Catapult
St. Augustine (Great Prophet) born in Beijing
Angle grows: 9
Toku Declared WAR!!!!!
On Mansa Musa
Turn OOPS! (1656 AD)
I accidentaly pressed enter after my last turn but i haven't done anything on this one. Sorry.
Summary:
We are a long way from a war currently, we need more attacking troops, more defensive troops and our cities need to become more productive. I also noticed that alot of our cities have lots of cottages and workshops which is great...except that the cities don't have enough food to work them. If we want to win a war against the Inca (who i think should be our target) we're going to need some more cavalry and catapults, as well as some Grenadiers for taking out the pikemen.
Good Luck Pling!
Just some other Screenies
Attack Plan Aztec
Attack Plan Inca
Victory conditions and Demo's
Ironchou finishes: Market
Tlacopan grows: 3
Turn 1 (1615 AD)
Tech learned: Printing Press
Turn 2 (1620 AD)
Research begun: Drama
I'm amazed that you guys hadn't researched Drama earlier
Beijing finishes: Cavalry
Shanghai finishes: Cavalry
Ironchou finishes: Christian Monastery
Turn 3 (1625 AD)
Beijing begins: Cavalry
Ironchou begins: Barracks
Tech learned: Drama
Good Enough finishes: Market
Ironchou grows: 12
Turn 4 (1630 AD)
Research begun: Education
Research begun: Chemistry
We need some Grenadiers
Angle finishes: Cavalry
Machu Picchu grows: 4
Turn 5 (1635 AD)
Angle begins: Musketman
User comment: We're going to need alot more defence in case we begin to lose the war
Shanghai finishes: Courthouse
Turn 6 (1640 AD)
Beijing finishes: Cavalry
Turn 7 (1645 AD)
Beijing begins: Catapult
Guangzhou finishes: Cavalry
Turn 8 (1650 AD)
Guangzhou begins: Musketman
Good Enough finishes: Christian Temple
Angle finishes: Musketman
Turn 9 (1652 AD)
Good Enough begins: Granary
Angle begins: Galley
I built the galley because i have a plan.
We can send a couple of cavalry over there and take the city on the same turn that we decalre war.
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Beijing finishes: Catapult
Ironchou finishes: Barracks
Turn 10 (1654 AD)
Beijing begins: Musketman
Ironchou begins: Catapult
St. Augustine (Great Prophet) born in Beijing
Angle grows: 9
Toku Declared WAR!!!!!
On Mansa Musa
Turn OOPS! (1656 AD)
I accidentaly pressed enter after my last turn but i haven't done anything on this one. Sorry.
Summary:
We are a long way from a war currently, we need more attacking troops, more defensive troops and our cities need to become more productive. I also noticed that alot of our cities have lots of cottages and workshops which is great...except that the cities don't have enough food to work them. If we want to win a war against the Inca (who i think should be our target) we're going to need some more cavalry and catapults, as well as some Grenadiers for taking out the pikemen.
Good Luck Pling!
Just some other Screenies
Attack Plan Aztec
Attack Plan Inca
Victory conditions and Demo's
BeefontheBone
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Am I right in thinking we've got two great people there, an artist and a prophet? I think I'd be favouring a golden age with them at present depending on what techs they can work on, although the artist could be very useful to CB a captured city in order to end its resistance and ward off enemy culture. What else can we get out of the prophet?
pling
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BeefontheBone said:
The Prophet will get us Education.
I was hoping it'd be some dumb tech we wouldn't want, as then there'd be no decisions to make
But Education may well be useful. I think I'm inclining towards having the prophet get us Edu and the artist culture bombing something useful in the war ...I'll hold off playing so other people can offer opinions and hopefully we'll get some sort of consensus
BeefontheBone
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If it's education I'm with you - save the artist for the war and our golden ages for later when we've got more cities.
chriseay
The Master Trader
I second (or I suppose third) education. Does the prophet get us all of Education? That'd be excellent, though I seem to remember that this late in the game you usually don't get a full tech from a GP. I could just be 
though.
though.
pling
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chriseay said:I second (or I suppose third) education. Does the prophet get us all of Education? That'd be excellent, though I seem to remember that this late in the game you usually don't get a full tech from a GP. I could just be
It seems to be all of Edu - I was rather surprised, so double checked after I'd posted the last message.
I'm sorting out the post for a different SG I'm in (and then rebooting - my graphics program is in a different OS to Civ so it's reboot-tastic) then I think I'll just play this set, going for Edu & keeping the artist ... given the person who'd suggested otherwise has now changed his mind
(and it's back to plan A for the artist anyway).
pling
Penguin
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Turn 1 (1656 AD)
Tech learned: Education
Used up St Augustine and got an^H^H Education
Send worker to Tlacopan to sleep - can't see anything immediately useful to do with him
Beijing grows: 18
Beijing's borders expand
Guangzhou grows: 12
Angle finishes: Galley
Turn 2 (1658 AD)
IBT: The Incans ask us to convert, I tell them no
IBT: Mansa asks us for Open Borders, I say yeah (it'd be nice if he started to like us, and I don't think this hurts at the moment)
Really can't see much for the workers to do, so send them all (as they finish stuff) to the nearest city to sleep for a while - till we have lumbermills I guess, or want to choprush something
Shanghai grows: 8
Shanghai finishes: Musketman
Machu Picchu grows: 5
Turn 3 (1660 AD)
Shanghai begins: Cavalry
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Tech learned: Chemistry
Beijing finishes: Musketman
Guangzhou finishes: Musketman
Good Enough grows: 8
Ironchou finishes: Catapult
Turn 4 (1662 AD)
Research begun: Liberalism
As far as I can see someone's already got this, so I switched back off it (see below). Hopefully I wasn't being dumb!
Beijing begins: Grenadier
Guangzhou begins: Grenadier
Ironchou begins: Cavalry
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Research begun: Steel
Cannon here we come!
Machu Picchu finishes: Barracks
Turn 5 (1664 AD)
Machu Picchu begins: Musketman
Angle finishes: Harbor
Turn 6 (1666 AD)
Angle begins: Cavalry
IBT: The Incans asked for Philosophy, I said no
Beijing finishes: Grenadier
Good Enough finishes: Granary
Turn 7 (1668 AD)
Beijing begins: Cavalry
Good Enough begins: Musketman
Galley is now in place
Looking round our cities in terms of offence/defence:
Beijing is making Cavalry, in 12 turns there'll be two to load onto the galley, has quite a lot of defence
Shanghai is making Cavalry, there are already several there, need more defence
Angle makes Cavalry, some defence present, need more
Ironchou makes Cavalry, adequately defended
Guangzhou makes a Grenadier, quite a bit of defense, maybe need more, might be an idea to build up an offense stack here
Tlacopan has some defense, needs more, it's making a courthouse and seems not involved in army buildup at the moment, and it's pretty far from the proposed front
Good Enough is light on defense, but is currently making a Musketman
Machu Picchu has Longbows galore, needs some more modern defences too. Maybe build up an attack stack here?
Texcoco needs modern defense and has a few offensive units
Texcoco: The courthouse in Texcoco is important - it's at -10 for maintenance
All thoughts were based on making war on the Incans first. However, the Aztecs are more annoyed with us, so we'll have to make sure the defences down south are up to scratch before getting distracted by the Incans
Turn 8 (1670 AD)
Judaism has spread: Kumbi Saleh (Malinese Empire)
Judaism has spread: Kumbi Saleh (Japanese Empire)
Turn 9 (1672 AD)
Guangzhou finishes: Grenadier
Machu Picchu grows: 6
Machu Picchu finishes: Musketman
Turn 10 (1674 AD)
Guangzhou begins: Cavalry
Machu Picchu begins: Cavalry
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Grenadier promoted: City Garrison I
Grenadier promoted: City Garrison II
Saladin has a Golden Age (Taj Mahal)
IBT: Mansa asked us to join his war against the Japanese, I said no way!
And to finish picture of the empire:
And we seem to be doing pretty well for power:
Roster, coz we've not recapped it for a while :
Sir Toma
pling (just played)
Chriseay (Up now)
Sadan01 (On deck)
BeefontheBone
Admiral Kutzov
Pie-es Tasty
Tech learned: Education
Used up St Augustine and got an^H^H Education
Send worker to Tlacopan to sleep - can't see anything immediately useful to do with him
Beijing grows: 18
Beijing's borders expand
Guangzhou grows: 12
Angle finishes: Galley
Turn 2 (1658 AD)
IBT: The Incans ask us to convert, I tell them no
IBT: Mansa asks us for Open Borders, I say yeah (it'd be nice if he started to like us, and I don't think this hurts at the moment)
Really can't see much for the workers to do, so send them all (as they finish stuff) to the nearest city to sleep for a while - till we have lumbermills I guess, or want to choprush something
Shanghai grows: 8
Shanghai finishes: Musketman
Machu Picchu grows: 5
Turn 3 (1660 AD)
Shanghai begins: Cavalry
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Tech learned: Chemistry
Beijing finishes: Musketman
Guangzhou finishes: Musketman
Good Enough grows: 8
Ironchou finishes: Catapult
Turn 4 (1662 AD)
Research begun: Liberalism
As far as I can see someone's already got this, so I switched back off it (see below). Hopefully I wasn't being dumb!
Beijing begins: Grenadier
Guangzhou begins: Grenadier
Ironchou begins: Cavalry
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Research begun: Steel
Cannon here we come!
Machu Picchu finishes: Barracks
Turn 5 (1664 AD)
Machu Picchu begins: Musketman
Angle finishes: Harbor
Turn 6 (1666 AD)
Angle begins: Cavalry
IBT: The Incans asked for Philosophy, I said no
Beijing finishes: Grenadier
Good Enough finishes: Granary
Turn 7 (1668 AD)
Beijing begins: Cavalry
Good Enough begins: Musketman
Galley is now in place
Looking round our cities in terms of offence/defence:
Beijing is making Cavalry, in 12 turns there'll be two to load onto the galley, has quite a lot of defence
Shanghai is making Cavalry, there are already several there, need more defence
Angle makes Cavalry, some defence present, need more
Ironchou makes Cavalry, adequately defended
Guangzhou makes a Grenadier, quite a bit of defense, maybe need more, might be an idea to build up an offense stack here
Tlacopan has some defense, needs more, it's making a courthouse and seems not involved in army buildup at the moment, and it's pretty far from the proposed front
Good Enough is light on defense, but is currently making a Musketman
Machu Picchu has Longbows galore, needs some more modern defences too. Maybe build up an attack stack here?
Texcoco needs modern defense and has a few offensive units
Texcoco: The courthouse in Texcoco is important - it's at -10 for maintenance
All thoughts were based on making war on the Incans first. However, the Aztecs are more annoyed with us, so we'll have to make sure the defences down south are up to scratch before getting distracted by the Incans
Turn 8 (1670 AD)
Judaism has spread: Kumbi Saleh (Malinese Empire)
Judaism has spread: Kumbi Saleh (Japanese Empire)
Turn 9 (1672 AD)
Guangzhou finishes: Grenadier
Machu Picchu grows: 6
Machu Picchu finishes: Musketman
Turn 10 (1674 AD)
Guangzhou begins: Cavalry
Machu Picchu begins: Cavalry
Musketman promoted: City Garrison I
Musketman promoted: City Garrison II
Grenadier promoted: City Garrison I
Grenadier promoted: City Garrison II
Saladin has a Golden Age (Taj Mahal)
IBT: Mansa asked us to join his war against the Japanese, I said no way!
And to finish picture of the empire:
And we seem to be doing pretty well for power:
Roster, coz we've not recapped it for a while
:Sir Toma
pling (just played)
Chriseay (Up now)
Sadan01 (On deck)
BeefontheBone
Admiral Kutzov
Pie-es Tasty
chriseay
The Master Trader
Ok, I've got it, though no guarantees (I can never spell that darn word) when I'll play. Should be by tomorrow night, though weekends are unpredictable (I usually have time) and I always seem to be up in this and another SG at the same time. Are we thinking a war soon?
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