SGOTM 01 - Chaos

[ruff_hi]

What is his colour? I thought it was a browny orange. That colour looks blue or white to me (greece or england / germany).

 

[I play 4 fun]

That border belong to england or germany so i'll guess that it's the wonderful, scientific, fincial, space race threat Elizabeth.

 

[jeejeep]

Sorry, don't know why I said that. It looks like Cyrus to me.

 

[I play 4 fun]

i think we should get open borders with them map out their vast or puny land, and then assimilate their pathetic people to become egyptian

We should aim for optics as fast as possible

 

[jeejeep]

Um, anyone still here?

 

[I play 4 fun]

everyone's waiting for the next person to do their turn

 

[ruff_hi]

and that next person is the GWB - munterpipe!

 

[HookEmHorns]

We've passed our first test!
Cathy had to be taken.
A path to the west
we must soon be makin'.

I thought Strauss was up
though it may well be Munter.
Someone should take the cup
and become the hunter.

I don't think we should
start another war yet.
Huayna's in the 'hood
and we must get set.

On Optics, I'm not sold
though Compass will be major.
A faster way to gold
is Currency, I wager.

 

[Munterpipe]

I thought Strauss was up as well. He wanted a swap, right?
Anyway, if we don't hear from him the next 12ish hours, I'll grab it and get the game moving again.

 

[Munterpipe]

0: Catherine is dead, and it's time for our small continent to grow.

1: Settler done, and decide to go for this spot by the coast, with two seafoods and lots of flood plains for cottage spamming.

Meet Cyrus. Persia is not the civ we are locked in peace with, so we might want to take him out sooner or later.

For now I believe Persia is creative, so a culture war at the cow spot could be hard to win.

2: Start some cottages around.

3: Settle Heliopolis.

4: workers work

5:zzz

6:zzz

7:I think we should build another city here. Spam cottages and mine the hills to make it a great site.

8: A galley is done in St. Pete. Send it east to explore.

9: We're down to 20 % research.

10: Granary done in Moscow start library.


We are stuck in a bad economic situation due to lots of maintanance. After compass I think we should go for code of laws soon to get courthouses.
We are best when it comes to production though, so we should be able to take out Cyrus for example if we want to. We could raze and pillage his cities for gold. Eliminating an enemy and hopefully gaining a lot of gold.

 

[Munterpipe]

Chriseay, (Mr Grump)
HookEmHorns, (much better rhymer than some)
I play 4 fun, (excaggerator) on deck
jeejeep, (mathematician) UP!!
Munterpipe, (general whipping boy) played
ruff_hi, (artist)
Strauss ( furiously in luuuv with everyone)

 

[jeejeep]

I can today or tomorrow, but I will wait for suggestions first. Just let me look at the save...

Okay, here are my comments:

Problem:Happiness-We only have five happies in each city, basically limiting us to five people per city
Solution: Happy resources-no, we only have one more unlockable. I'm thinking hereditary rule, as we could use our units to make us happy. Happiness seems like the key to the situation, as we can't improve our economy or production until we have more people.

Problem: Economy-we are at 20% research with +2 gold? Not good.
Solution: Cottages-maybe, but we have to have more happiness to work more of them. I think the solution to this is both cottages and Courthouses/currency. This is what we really need help with at the moment. I don't think we should start any more settlers or war to take cities until we are on the path to recovery.

Question: Why are we researching compass? I just noticed this and it makes no sense to me. We are wasting about 20 turns (34, but the number should go down), on a tech that will not help us with either of our primary needs. Instead, I would recommend:

a) Mathematics: Leads to techs that help us (currency, calendar) My research path for this choice would be Math-Currency-CoL-Calendar.

b) Priesthood: Also leads to techs that help us (monarchy, CoL) My research path for this choice would be Priesthood-Monarchy-CoL and then Math, currency, and calendar. Overall, this seems like the better choice to me.

 

[HookEmHorns]

I do see value in having Compass.
Harbors will help our economy surpass,
taking advantage of our production might.
And explorers out mapping are tight!

After that, I prefer Option A.
It's faster to Currency which will pay.
Beyond that, I do not have a clear vision.
Events will certainly impact the decision.

A silver city should be worthwhile.
Working the mine is the best style
For a growth plan, see the Cuban black dot.
Other cities will like the silver a lot.

Do we have open borders with Cyrus?
Won't that give our trades a plus?
Hiring scientists in Memphis and Thebes
Will help in meeting our research needs.

Cottages are of the highest worth.
They will eventually bring us mirth.
Good luck, jeejeep, while you carry the ball.
Your efforts will be a credit to us all.

 

[ruff_hi]

A silver city should be worthwhile.
Working the mine is the best style
For a growth plan, see the Cuban black dot.
Other cities will like the silver a lot.

oh wow - someone actually noticed a throw away comment of mine, did some research and came back with a good idea. In light of the black dot, I suggest we move our silver city (picture here) 1 tile to the West to max out the water tiles, chop the forests for the lighthouse / grainary / library and build windmills when and where we can.

 

[I play 4 fun]

I think after we get curreny and code of laws we should head to the superior tech of monarchy.

With happy people in our large cities with will be able to work the puny cottages and let them become super mini cities. Without monarchy we will never win the game!!!!!!

 

[chriseay]

Just wanted to grumpily check in mad: ) and say looks good guys. I'll be gone the weekend, and probably not posting, but next week I'll be back. Then, after next week I'll be gone again, for a whole week. I'll have my laptop with me though, so we'll see whether I end up playing/posting or not. A little vacation might do the grump some good!

 

[jeejeep]

Before I play, I basically want a vote on whether to continue with compass or other techs. So, do we stay with compass?

I vote no.

 

[HookEmHorns]

Before Munterpipe's turn, I was unsure
that going through Compass was the best tour.
I'd like to hear from Ruff_Hi and him
Why choosing that course was not just a whim.

I'm okay with the Priesthood-Monarchy route.
It gets us some happies while we build our clout.
Courthouses will come with Code of Laws.
An improved economy will further our cause.

 

[ruff_hi]

tech selection - don't ask me. This is the weakest part of my game.

 

[jeejeep]

hookem: Since ruff doesn't know, does that mean you vote no. It is kind of hard to tell with the poetry. btw, I think you mean munterpipe, not mutineer.