SGOTM 03 - Smurkz
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I can't remember if we currently have three or four great people. Hit F5 and check when you start, it'll list all the great people we have at the top. We need five total for two GA's, so it is possible. The one thing I'm unsure about is which great people the GA uses and whether we can specify which ones it uses when we have this many.
zyxy
Warmongering Fool
I think we should risk it and not build the UN. I think that a civ needs friendly relations for the UN diplo vote. Only Capac, Alex and Freddy have 4 friends, the others have 3 or less. So I think it's safe.
At this point I agree. If we go all out on the SS we should hopefully be able to complete it before any AI can win by UN. We're too far now IMO to build the UN.
Let's just hope we're correct.
I agree as well. Rather chance it now than trying to play safe.
Ok.
After some checking, here is my plan:
- switch Moscow to heavy GPP production (we could get a GP in 12 turns at max prod). It means farming everywhere (it nay even be too late but we'll see...)
- farm the last workshop in Vlad to increase GP prod
- mine the Uranium in Kiev
- starve cities producing to get them Engineers (health will be up by 3 in 3 turns)
- start GA next turn
We have 2 remaining components to start:
- Life support
- Stasis chamber
Best production cities are Kiev, then Rome/Ravenna. At current speed Ravenna could produce stasis in 16 turns (without GA), Kiev life support in 10 turns (without GA too).
Playing in less than an hour... I'll check here before lauching turnset. I think we are winning in next 20 turns, unless...
After some checking, here is my plan:
- switch Moscow to heavy GPP production (we could get a GP in 12 turns at max prod). It means farming everywhere (it nay even be too late but we'll see...)
- farm the last workshop in Vlad to increase GP prod
- mine the Uranium in Kiev
- starve cities producing to get them Engineers (health will be up by 3 in 3 turns)
- start GA next turn
We have 2 remaining components to start:
- Life support
- Stasis chamber
Best production cities are Kiev, then Rome/Ravenna. At current speed Ravenna could produce stasis in 16 turns (without GA), Kiev life support in 10 turns (without GA too).
Playing in less than an hour... I'll check here before lauching turnset. I think we are winning in next 20 turns, unless...
Sorry for the delay 
computer issue...
Anyway here it is:
Turn 0 1825 AD
Farm in Vlad. Production cities with 3Eng where useful (everywhere). Moscow on heavy GPP production.
IBT Ghandi asks for computers. Chinese revolt in Shanghai.
Turn 1 1826 AD
GA is started. I bring back Johanne of Smurkz to motherland
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Uranium mined. Start farming in Moscow.
Mmmmmmh seems on epic GA last 10 turns. Should have checked that earlier but that's even better for us.
Bad news is that Hyuana and Khan have flight.
IBT Monte asks for whatever. I politely decline.
Turn 2 1827 AD
Last casing completed in Rome. Start some troops. Roman revolt in Neapolis.
Some worker actions.
IBT Mao asks for Biology. I refuse.
Turn 3 1828 AD
Genetics completed. Start Ecology. I set culture at 20% in order to stop unruly people in Moscow/Beijing (but Ecology still due in 4 turns).
Stasis in Rome (15 turns instead of 16 in Ravenna, plus Rome has some potential for workshops...). Ravenna on troops.
IBT Hyuana/Kubilai have completed Appollo program
Turn 4 1829 AD
zzz
Turn 5 1830 AD
zzz (still farming around Moscow). I also set Kiev on food recovery since next turn we will not be able to start producing something useful...
Turn 6 1831 AD
Hum. We are not workshopping fast enough around Rome. I start workers in surrounding cities (I'll cashrush them soon). I switch GPP production in Vlad off (or nearly) since Moscow will not be able to sustain its actual rate for more than 2 turns. I stop farming there to, in order to workshop in Kiev. Some GPP back in Vlad.
Set Kiev on Bunker, will give the biggest overflow in 2 turns.
Beijing on mechinf.
IBT Saladin want something...
Turn 7 1832 AD
Workshopping in Kiev/Rome. New workers in queue.
Turn 8 1833 AD
Mff. I start Life Support in Kiev, due in 6 turns. Rome should finish last in 9 turns...
Georges Washington Goethals is born in Moscow, which is back on production/commerce.
Argh Frederick switch to Emancipation.... Should be ok.
I start Mass Media, in case.... But I set science and culture to 0, because I need to cashrush a factory in Vlad (getting 2 more specialists). On 2nd thought I'd rather cashrush temples to not increase the probability to get a 2nd GE (my current fear).
Turn 9 1834 AD
Some worker movement, trying to get Rome a little faster.
Rushed temple in Vlad. Hmf. Miscalculation, it will not allow to go on with GA... I turn missed I think. It means GP is due in 3 turns whatever we do. Troubling the GP pool might still be worth it anyway.
I 7 turns we should have won Only bad news would be if total war starts now, but even. The UN is too late I think (you can't win the turn you build it right ?) In any case if we get a second GE/GP in Vlad (unlucky is still possible) we could rush/cashrush the UN. So restarting some science is doable.
the save
the log
computer issue...Anyway here it is:
Turn 0 1825 AD
Farm in Vlad. Production cities with 3Eng where useful (everywhere). Moscow on heavy GPP production.
IBT Ghandi asks for computers. Chinese revolt in Shanghai.
Turn 1 1826 AD
GA is started. I bring back Johanne of Smurkz to motherland
.Uranium mined. Start farming in Moscow.
Mmmmmmh seems on epic GA last 10 turns. Should have checked that earlier but that's even better for us.
Bad news is that Hyuana and Khan have flight.
IBT Monte asks for whatever. I politely decline.
Turn 2 1827 AD
Last casing completed in Rome. Start some troops. Roman revolt in Neapolis.
Some worker actions.
IBT Mao asks for Biology. I refuse.
Turn 3 1828 AD
Genetics completed. Start Ecology. I set culture at 20% in order to stop unruly people in Moscow/Beijing (but Ecology still due in 4 turns).
Stasis in Rome (15 turns instead of 16 in Ravenna, plus Rome has some potential for workshops...). Ravenna on troops.
IBT Hyuana/Kubilai have completed Appollo program
Turn 4 1829 AD
zzz
Turn 5 1830 AD
zzz (still farming around Moscow). I also set Kiev on food recovery since next turn we will not be able to start producing something useful...
Turn 6 1831 AD
Hum. We are not workshopping fast enough around Rome. I start workers in surrounding cities (I'll cashrush them soon). I switch GPP production in Vlad off (or nearly) since Moscow will not be able to sustain its actual rate for more than 2 turns. I stop farming there to, in order to workshop in Kiev. Some GPP back in Vlad.
Set Kiev on Bunker, will give the biggest overflow in 2 turns.
Beijing on mechinf.
IBT Saladin want something...
Turn 7 1832 AD
Workshopping in Kiev/Rome. New workers in queue.
Turn 8 1833 AD
Mff. I start Life Support in Kiev, due in 6 turns. Rome should finish last in 9 turns...
Georges Washington Goethals is born in Moscow, which is back on production/commerce.
Argh Frederick switch to Emancipation.... Should be ok.
I start Mass Media, in case.... But I set science and culture to 0, because I need to cashrush a factory in Vlad (getting 2 more specialists). On 2nd thought I'd rather cashrush temples to not increase the probability to get a 2nd GE (my current fear).
Turn 9 1834 AD
Some worker movement, trying to get Rome a little faster.
Rushed temple in Vlad. Hmf. Miscalculation, it will not allow to go on with GA... I turn missed I think. It means GP is due in 3 turns whatever we do. Troubling the GP pool might still be worth it anyway.
I 7 turns we should have won
Only bad news would be if total war starts now, but even. The UN is too late I think (you can't win the turn you build it right ?) In any case if we get a second GE/GP in Vlad (unlucky is still possible) we could rush/cashrush the UN. So restarting some science is doable.the save
the log
Spoiler :
Looks very nice unkle, great going! 
Alright, only 7 more turns to go, who's keen on bringing this baby home?
Alright, only 7 more turns to go, who's keen on bringing this baby home?
Turn 444 (1834 AD)
Methos: Other than switching towns to workshops, there's really nothing to do.
Vladivostok finishes: Jewish Temple
Beijing finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Arretium finishes: Worker
Cumae finishes: Worker
Shanghai finishes: Lighthouse
Turn 445 (1835 AD)
Beijing begins: Mechanized Infantry
Methos: I bump Vlad up so that we get the next GP 1 turn sooner. So long as it isn't an enginerr or prophet we can have another GA.
Golden Age ends
Turn 446 (1836 AD)
Methos: Since our GA has ended Rome is back to requiring seven turns until completion.
Irkutzk finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Orville Wright (Great Engineer) born in Vladivostok
Turn 447 (1837 AD)
Irkutzk begins: Mechanized Infantry
Methos: Crap! We get another GE, meaning no GA. I will move them all to Rome for super specialists though. Should have done that earlier, but I forgot.
Ravenna finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Beijing grows: 18
Arretium's borders expand
Antium finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Turn 448 (1838 AD)
Ravenna begins: Tank
Antium begins: Tank
Smurkzgrad finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Turn 449 (1839 AD)
Smurkzgrad begins: Tank
Tech learned: Mass Media
Kiev finishes: SS Life Support
Beijing finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Turn 450 (1840 AD)
Research begun: Fascism
Beijing begins: Tank
Turn 451 (1841 AD)
Methos: One turn away from victory and HC/Kublai are the only ones building the SS with three parts total.
Rome finishes: SS Stasis Chamber
Turn 452 (1842 AD)
Even with starving Rome and merging the GP's we still couldn't have shaved off any turns. If only we'd gotten a different GP we could have had another GA and won two turns earlier, possibly three. Sorry guys, I should have moved the two GP we did have towards Rome so that way when I learned we couldn't have another GA I could have merged them immediately. Instead, I did it four turns later.
Either way, great game guys! I doubt we won any awards, but it was still a lot of fun!
1842 AD Save
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Methos: Other than switching towns to workshops, there's really nothing to do.
Vladivostok finishes: Jewish Temple
Beijing finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Arretium finishes: Worker
Cumae finishes: Worker
Shanghai finishes: Lighthouse
Turn 445 (1835 AD)
Beijing begins: Mechanized Infantry
Methos: I bump Vlad up so that we get the next GP 1 turn sooner. So long as it isn't an enginerr or prophet we can have another GA.
Golden Age ends
Turn 446 (1836 AD)
Methos: Since our GA has ended Rome is back to requiring seven turns until completion.
Irkutzk finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Orville Wright (Great Engineer) born in Vladivostok
Turn 447 (1837 AD)
Irkutzk begins: Mechanized Infantry
Methos: Crap! We get another GE, meaning no GA. I will move them all to Rome for super specialists though. Should have done that earlier, but I forgot.
Ravenna finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Beijing grows: 18
Arretium's borders expand
Antium finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Turn 448 (1838 AD)
Ravenna begins: Tank
Antium begins: Tank
Smurkzgrad finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Turn 449 (1839 AD)
Smurkzgrad begins: Tank
Tech learned: Mass Media
Kiev finishes: SS Life Support
Beijing finishes: Mechanized Infantry
Turn 450 (1840 AD)
Research begun: Fascism
Beijing begins: Tank
Turn 451 (1841 AD)
Methos: One turn away from victory and HC/Kublai are the only ones building the SS with three parts total.
Rome finishes: SS Stasis Chamber
Turn 452 (1842 AD)
Spoiler Turn Log :
Even with starving Rome and merging the GP's we still couldn't have shaved off any turns. If only we'd gotten a different GP we could have had another GA and won two turns earlier, possibly three. Sorry guys, I should have moved the two GP we did have towards Rome so that way when I learned we couldn't have another GA I could have merged them immediately. Instead, I did it four turns later.
Either way, great game guys! I doubt we won any awards, but it was still a lot of fun!
1842 AD Save
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Great game guys. I feel somewhat like I didn't pull my weight (turnset and evaluation-wise), but I enjoyed the experience this time much more than the last one. If you'll have me back, I'm all for being a smurk in the next SGOTM that opens up.
Cheers,
B
Cheers,
B
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We went to the stars!!! Great going Methos, and team, way to finish this off in good time. Now let's go read the other threads to see how badly we placed.
@battchy: You're welcome back at any time. Once a Smurk...
zyxy
Warmongering Fool
Alright, well done! Congrats all on a game well played!
Now, did we finish anywhere near the top teams??
EDIT: well, no. At least one team finished in the 16th century...
Now, did we finish anywhere near the top teams??
EDIT: well, no. At least one team finished in the 16th century...
Most teams seem to have gone for Diplo, and of course then beat us by far. But I found a comment in MW's thread that they wondered why we didn't go for MM at the point of divergence since we would probably have beaten them then, which would have meant a silver. Oh well. It seems we'll be the fastest space farers at any rate.
Are we able to look at other teams thread now ?
I wonder if diplo wins are backdoor diplo....
It was a great game and thank you for welcoming new Smurkz the way you did. Hope to play may more with you guys
If I ever go for space again (I won't it's too long.... but who knows) I know I'll probably went for Appollo faster, and save some GP if I am philo. I also think we did not use cashrushing enough...
Anyway that was great fun, we'll be better next time
I wonder if diplo wins are backdoor diplo....
It was a great game and thank you for welcoming new Smurkz the way you did. Hope to play may more with you guys
If I ever go for space again (I won't it's too long.... but who knows) I know I'll probably went for Appollo faster, and save some GP if I am philo. I also think we did not use cashrushing enough...
Anyway that was great fun, we'll be better next time
Yep, we can now read the other threads. Niklas's comment has me curious...
Kodii
Ka ICE
Congratulations Smurkz on the win!
If I am not mistaken, the Real Ms. Beyond is the only team which pulled off a completely backdoor domination. The other teams got the AIs to vote for them in order to win, which proved successful as they achieved faster victory dates than we did.unkle said:
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