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SGOTM 11 - T'dr'duzk b'hazg t't

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession GOTM' started by AlanH, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. MatrixTheKitty

    MatrixTheKitty Skitty

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    Alright. Then our new roster is:

    Brian Shanahan
    dima42 - just went
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    neilmeister
     
  2. neilmeister

    neilmeister Lentils have feelings too GOTM Staff

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    Sorry to see you go FGJ, I enjoyed playing with you.

    Good luck with those darn kids....
     
  3. ForGreatJustice

    ForGreatJustice Master of the Grump

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    Yeah yeah those darn kids indeed. Sorry about Australia bowing out of the world cup so early. I'm just happy that Germany destroyed Argentina today.
     
  4. Brian Shanahan

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    Well I'm back after the weekend, and I'm not very happy (as a clue I'm from Limerick, and I was at the game).

    I'm going to give my tuppence ha'penny on the Spiral Minaret in a few minutes so I'll be back.

    Well the world wonder section of this site says +1g per state religion building but I'm pretty sure it'll be +2g. So assuming that we have 11 cities with the state religion, with temple and monastery in each plus the three legendary Cathedrals (and the shrine if we have it), we will have 50 (52 with shrine) gold per turn from the Spiral.
    Now the thing is, we won't be building that many multipliers for money except in our legendaries, and good production cities. I'm gioing to guess too that we'll only get Markets and Grocers in them too. So that means a +50% increase in those cities. Suppose we get this combo in 6 cities that runs out at an extra 6 gold per turn off Spiral.

    Now these are just supposing figures, and won't be completely accurate, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that in a non-legendary city, or two, it would probably be better to spam missionaries of a shrine religion, and spread the faith to our neighbours in order to get the extra gold from those cities. It would mean a lot more MM though.

    So my conclusion would be that the Spiral would be useful but a missionary spam more so.
     
  5. neilmeister

    neilmeister Lentils have feelings too GOTM Staff

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    Bad luck about the game, do you enjoy the bizarre mixed rules the Irish play against Australia?

    Now that is a thoughtful analysis !
    Do the Irish favour the missionary position ;)

    Confused spam could also help with the relations, as long as we don't spread it to our potential target, ie Justin. OK, sounds good to me.

    Missionary spam to our neighbours, get 9 of each temples built.
    Bombay is only city with Islam, so it should probably keep pumping Islamic missionaries.

    EDIT: I can see lots of cash available for trading.
     
  6. Brian Shanahan

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    1) Yes, especially this clip detailing the reasons why we're bad at it.

    2) We'll take what we can get frankly.

    On the missionary spam, the money increase will not be as immediate, but as we only have to build commerce multipliers in one city it will be far less hammer intensive. And as you pointed out, if we play the diplo right we can tie up or neighbours fairly solidly in a confused block.
     
  7. neilmeister

    neilmeister Lentils have feelings too GOTM Staff

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    That clip makes the Aussies look like a bunch of thugs, which is only partially true.

    Our team has played the third most turns, so I think we could/should wait for Earthling to make an appearance and hopefully add his thoughts. He is next to play anyway.
     
  8. MatrixTheKitty

    MatrixTheKitty Skitty

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    So... it's been like five days. Should we just move on to my turn?
     
  9. neilmeister

    neilmeister Lentils have feelings too GOTM Staff

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    Yeah, you get my vote to play on Matrix.....

    Don't forget to change civics back to Caste
     
  10. Brian Shanahan

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    Give him 24hrs, I'm pming him a reminder now.

    Earthling came back to me with:
    "I'm not caught up, and said I'd be away up until just recently, so sure, Matrix can go ahead, thanks for the reminder though as I do plan to get back to helping out.

    Earthling"

    So we can forge ahead with our glorious revolution.

    Truth, Justice, Freedom, Reasonably Priced Love and a Hard-Boiled Egg.
     
  11. MatrixTheKitty

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    I'll go for waiting 24 hours.
     
  12. neilmeister

    neilmeister Lentils have feelings too GOTM Staff

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    ...and a hard bolied egg !!

    C'mon Brian, you can't have everything :nono:
     
  13. MatrixTheKitty

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    Well, I don't really feel like playing two turnsets in one day :p

    Although I guess I could play this today instead of IO4, leaving the latter for tuesday.

    Got it.
     
  14. Brian Shanahan

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    Go which ever way you want Matix.

    @ Neil I'm not asking for everything, I'm conceding the reasonably priced love (I'm assuming you get the reference).
     
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    neilmeister Lentils have feelings too GOTM Staff

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    Yes, and 'Free Love' is completely out of the question.
     
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    Hey guys? Toku DoWed on Saladin. He wants us in on it. Should I use one of our declarations on Sally?
     
  18. Brian Shanahan

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    I vote Nein! "Ve Germans are a peaceful race".

    Not with only two DoWs we should be really careful about acceting war. But this is an indication that all is not lovey-dovey, so maybe a bit of a military build-up may be in order.
     
  19. MatrixTheKitty

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    Okay, here we go.

    Turn 0:

    Gave the pigs to Bangalore

    Sold Aesthetics to Toku for 360g

    Sold Aesthetics to Mehmed for 60g

    Turn 1:

    Delhi: Confucian Academy -> Spiral Minaret

    Bombay: Islamic Missionary -> Islamic Missionary

    Varanasi: Hindu Mandir -> Harbor

    Agra: Confucian Temple -> Harbor

    Turn 2:

    Lahore: Granary -> Hindu Temple

    Islam spread to Vijayanagara

    Sold Machinery to Izzy for 50g

    Sold Machinery to Mehmed for 30g

    Sold Literature to Toku for 170g

    Switched to Caste System

    Turn 3:

    Sold Philosophy to Zara for 250g & Map

    Sold Philosophy to Saladon for 60g

    Sold Philosophy to Justinian for 70g & Map

    Turn 4:

    Liberalism comes in. Since nobody decided on anything after we aborted the Astronomy mission, I went with that old standard, Nationalism.

    Liberalism -> Guilds

    Vijayanagara: Maceman -> Islamic Temple

    Nagara: Taoist Missionary -> Taoist Temple

    Taoism spread to Vijayanagara

    Turn 5:

    Toku DoWs on Saladin

    Gifted Drama to Toku

    Turn 6:

    Toku asks us to join him against Saladin, I say no, he drops to Annoyed.

    Bombay: Islamic Missionary -> Islamic Missionary

    Islam spread to Bangalore

    Sold Drama to Izzy for 40g

    Turn 7:

    Sally asks for a DoW on Toku, no.

    Bangalore: Hindu Temple -> Islamic Temple

    Turn 8:

    Guilds -> Printing Press

    Sold Guilds to Justinian for 110g & Map

    Sold Guilds to Zara for 130g & Map

    I give you... DEVILSGATE!

    Spoiler :


    Turn 9:

    Pataliputra: Confucian Temple -> Harbor

    Turn 10:

    Sally wants us to convert to Hinduism, I say no.

    Vijayanagara: Islamic Temple -> Taoist Temple

    o hai bevrs

    Spoiler :


    So, that's it there.

    Agra and Bombay are unhealthy. Agra will be fine when it finishes its Harbor. Maybe the next person can build a Harbor in Bombay sometime.

    The Save

    Oh, and by the way, what the hell are our Legendaries, aside from Delhi?
     
  20. MatrixTheKitty

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