SGOTM 19 - Also Sprach Sid

[Doshin]

I'm going to gift some Pigs to Tokugawa. We have a spare, and I *think* this will establish trade routes a turn sooner.

He doesn't have any spare GPT.

Edit: no luck. Oh well, it will help with diplo.

 

[Duckweed]

Unfortunately we're not getting Mathematics from a trade unless another AI acquires it... and then it'll depend on whether they're pursuing HG.

We can't even go for Music because it requires Mathematics. Maybe Metal Casting?

If HC trades Math from Alex and another AI got Math. Our suboptimal opening comes from not going Math instead of Alpha. Soundjata had the right intuition.

 

[Doshin]

Taking a break to think this through:

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FWIW:

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[Duckweed]

Can't do much about it, 2 workers have to go 1SE of the axe this turn. And you could delay the settler by 1 turn. Why neither KK nor HC trade Math from their friend for so long time?

 

[Doshin]

No Settler yet, but a Chariot is guarding the spot:

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I can delay our Settler, I just need to think it through and make sure that it's the best move.

 

[Doshin]

The Archer 2SE of the Ivory is a problem, if we delay the Settler whip:

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If we delay the whip, I can guard the Forest/Road tile 1NE of the Ivory with the City Raider III Axe, although this only has 3.5/5 health. But that seems best to me.

Ok with this?

Edit: actually, I suppose the Settler could pause for a turn on the Pigs and then move 4 tiles into Toku's territory (on T77).

 

[Duckweed]

Let the woodman axe turn back, we have another axe in the north near the stone site, right? let it move to the stone site.

 

[kossin]

Can't do much about it, 2 workers have to go 1SE of the axe this turn. And you could delay the settler by 1 turn. Why neither KK nor HC trade Math from their friend for so long time?

It wasn't quite easy to predict the opening of this game. What with the tons of barbs and super delay in meeting AIs as a result.

 

[Doshin]

We could also coopt the Worker 1SE of Constantinople.

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Land:

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T74

2 Workers in Toku: move to 1NE of Lalibela
New Worker: move to Pigs (no action)
Whip Settler

T75

2 Workers: road
New Worker: move 1N of Lalibela
Settler: move 2E of Lalibela

T76

1 old Worker: move 2N of Lalibela
1 old Worker: move back towards Constantinople (no action)
New Worker: move to Dye

Settler: move 2N of Lalibela

T77:

1 old Worker: road 2N of Lalibela
New Worker: road Dye

Settler: move to Dye

T78:

Road network up.
Settle 1SE of Rice.

This will slow the Granary in Horse city.

 

[Duckweed]

It wasn't quite easy to predict the opening of this game. What with the tons of barbs and super delay in meeting AIs as a result.

There are many reasons, I just mentioned something that we could do better. Meeting AIs earlier to get the Monarchy trade was a potential result of improving the game.

 

[Duckweed]

This will slow the Granary in Horse city.

This is going to waste a lot of worker turns moving forth and back.

Even with this, getting settler 1 turn slower settles the same turn.

Let the axe check whether the LB dies next turn.

 

[Doshin]

Ok...

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Land:

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T74

2 Workers in Toku: move to 1NE of Lalibela


T75

2 Workers: move to 2N of Lalibela
Whip Settler


T76

1 Worker: road 2N of Lalibela (1/2).
1 Worker: move 3N1E of Lalibela, to Dye.

Settler: move to Pigs.

T77

1 Worker: road 2N of Lalibela (2/2)
1 Worker: road Dye (1/2)

Settler: move 1NE of Lalibela.

T78

1 Worker: road Dye (2/2)

Settle City if threatened. Wait a turn if not.

We just need to be careful if the LB survives and the Archer moves to a position where it could threaten the Settler.

 

[Duckweed]

Sound better.

 

[Doshin]

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Change Wealth cities to Courthouses?

Rice Pudding will start a Missionary.

 

[Doshin]

And still healthy:

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[Duckweed]

Yes to CH.

Not any natural religious spread?

A headache of selecting the next tech. Maybe Compass?

The LB has nothing to pillage now, either moves away or attacks, so the corn will be clear next.

 

[Doshin]

Yes to CH.

Not any natural religious spread?

No such luck.

A headache of selecting the next tech. Maybe Compass?

Eh, I guess. Maybe Metal Casting?

Compass is better trade bait, but I worry we are going have next to no trade opportunities in this game.

The LB has nothing to pillage now, either moves away or attacka, so the corn will be clear next.

^^^^ if we're lucky, the barbs might capture Lalibela.

Unlikely with the CGII Archer, I know. It would require a mass attack.

 

[Doshin]

I've located HC:

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Shall we (a) push further and scout his territory; (b) swing back and check out the barb city, in case we can capture it; (c) swing back and scout the central area.

(b) and (c) for me.

 

[Duckweed]

I don't think we will complete either MC or Compass ourselves before Edu and Nat. Choosing Compass is just because there might be no AI going to research it before we turn back to finish it ourselves to bulb Lib.

Let the axe turn back, it's too slow to scout much.

 

[Doshin]

All done, uploading now.

T76 is not complete, although I made a couple of small moves to help with planning.

Log:

Here is your Session Turn Log from 1200 BC to 975 BC:

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Turn 71, 1160 BC: Sea Horse has been founded.
Turn 71, 1160 BC: Buddhism has spread in Case Départ.
Turn 71, 1160 BC: Trumpster has completed The Great Library!
Turn 71, 1160 BC: You have constructed The Great Library in Case Départ. Work has now begun on a Market.
Turn 71, 1160 BC: Rice Pudding can no longer work on The Great Library. The lost ℤ is converted into 124ℴ!
Turn 71, 1160 BC: Judaism has been founded in a distant land!

Turn 73, 1080 BC: Buddhism has spread in Sheepish.
Turn 73, 1080 BC: You have trained Buddhist Missionary in Case Départ. Work has now begun on a Market.

Turn 74, 1040 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Thessalonica!
Turn 74, 1040 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Thessalonica!
Turn 74, 1040 BC: Case Départ has grown to size 7.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: Golden Sands has grown to size 4.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: Sheepish has grown to size 5.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: Constantinople can hurry Settler for 2⇴ with 10ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 15 turns.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: Constantinople will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: Cornish Cow will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 74, 1040 BC: You have discovered Code of Laws!

Turn 75, 1000 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Thessalonica!
Turn 75, 1000 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Thessalonica!
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Constantinople has grown to size 5.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Cornish Cow has grown to size 2.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Clearing a Forest has created 20 ℤ for Case Départ.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Clearing a Forest has created 20 ℤ for Case Départ.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Clearing a Forest has created 20 ℤ for Case Départ.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Buddhism has spread in Rice Pudding.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Case Départ will grow to size 8 on the next turn.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Rice Pudding will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Sheepish will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Sea Horse will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Case Départ will grow to size 8 on the next turn.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Rice Pudding will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Sheepish will grow to size 6 on the next turn.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Sea Horse will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: You have constructed National Epic in Case Départ. Work has now begun on a Market.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Rice Pudding can no longer work on National Epic. The lost ℤ is converted into 60ℴ!
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Sheepish can no longer work on National Epic. The lost ℤ is converted into 76ℴ!
Turn 75, 1000 BC: You have trained a Settler in Constantinople. Work has now begun on Buddhist Missionary.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Alexander has founded Basra in a distant land.
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Tokugawa converts to Hinduism!
Turn 75, 1000 BC: Napoleon has founded Diyarbakir in a distant land.

Turn 76, 975 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Sheepish!
Turn 76, 975 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Thessalonica!
Turn 76, 975 BC: Case Départ has grown to size 8.
Turn 76, 975 BC: Case Départ can hurry Market for 4⇴ with 21ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 33 turns.
Turn 76, 975 BC: Rice Pudding has grown to size 7.
Turn 76, 975 BC: Sheepish has grown to size 6.
Turn 76, 975 BC: Constantinople can hurry Buddhist Missionary for 1⇴ with 5ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 23 turns.
Turn 76, 975 BC: Sea Horse has grown to size 2.
Turn 76, 975 BC: You are the worst enemy of Alexander.

I need to message AlanH and kcd_swede. There was a turn where I made some unit moves and forgot to save.