[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[WastinTime]

Closed borders should return SB galley to PP-1w2n.

I'm constantly surprised by teleports
Our T115 test game just happened to have a Zara boat in exactly the same spot. It teleported north
We blew that.

 

[MirrorGuard]

I was leaning towards no Optics, but I suppose the only chance we have for free Optics is if Peter picks in next.

Actually there could be another chance. If Peter gets another great scientist( would be his 2nd or 3rd?), he may choose to bulb optics. He doesn't have paper yet.

 

[WastinTime]

Blockade cuts his TRs to Peter.

the best part is it blocks all his water tiles. It woulda slowed him down big time, and by putting him in caste, he would just starve instead of being able whip pop.
I suppose Cahokia wouldn't have starved anyway, but it might have forced the city to not work incense.
We could block the galley up north with our other Tri, but then we're not defending south.
Seems too risky to try to kill the galley.

 

[WastinTime]

One tri has orders (cancelable), One GS already moved , so we can' t use that one for PPress. Sadly, that one is in range of getting killed by a unit from SB's galley! (if we DoW) Is that a real risk? or can't happen?

 

[WastinTime]

Note: we can't blockade unless we move into SB's culture.

 

[WastinTime]

Then we also have to worry about scouts. Should probably block our food tiles with great people, or in an emergency, workers.

 

[LowtherCastle]

One tri has orders (cancelable), One GS already moved , so we can' t use that one for PPress. Sadly, that one is in range of getting killed by a unit from SB's galley! (if we DoW) Is that a real risk? or can't happen?

I doubt SB would kill it amphibiously but it’s currently killing spread forest chance... but man, if SB killed that GS, I’d kill myself.

We could CBs this turn, DOW next.

 

[MirrorGuard]

One GS already moved

Oh dear. My bad.
If we DOW early, I recommend getting a chariot in science city. By killing 1 scout, it will reach +4exp for sentry promotion.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Simplest way forward is if someone briefly gives me the latest broad plan. (Not MM details)
Civics plans?
DoW plans?
Drafting plans?
Economic?

I’ve got the GP spreadsheet.

What I want to know is if we can chop/build a galley in Clam City?

Or somehow quick-road Canal-PP?

 

[LowtherCastle]

Moscow’s got 71h in a build, harbor costs him 68h. Maybe a settler.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Remind me why +7eps to SB per turn.

 

[LowtherCastle]

I'm constantly surprised by teleports
Our T115 test game just happened to have a Zara boat in exactly the same spot. It teleported north
We blew that.

Verified. Mystery. Must be some nautical code. That galley would pillage the crap out of our seafood. Another galley sitting in PP.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Urgency to get the 800 Clams GS on T142? Instead of T143?

 

[MirrorGuard]

Remind me why +7eps to SB per turn.

It's about Peter. I added +1ep to make sure Peter's current research is still visible while not triggering his defensive ep slider against us. Ofc, you can give that +1ep to SB whenever you need.

Urgency to get the 800 Clams GS on T142? Instead of T143?

It will break gp sequence elsewhere like science/ silver.

 

[WastinTime]

We could CBs this turn, DOW next.

when does Peter get +1 religion w/ SB, and does that make him Pleased? We could bribe Peter to DoW SB first, not sure what that costs.
Also, the AI has like 500% more likely chance they'll ask you to join the war on turn 1. I think chance is cut in half turn 2, etc.

 

[WastinTime]

We are starving Canal this turn with 13 sci.
We could draft next turn down to size 10 and it will not be angry. Unit moves T136. No galley needed.

What does that do to our GP plan?

 

[LowtherCastle]

It will break gp sequence elsewhere like science/ silver.

Science at 900 isn’t scheduled till T144.

Never mind I see the problem.

 

[LowtherCastle]

We are starving Canal this turn with 13 sci.
We could draft next turn down to size 10 and it will not be angry. Unit moves T136. No galley needed.

What does that do to our GP plan?

Canal is currently scheduled for T145 at 1000. Then silver at 1200 is T147. Seems like there’s some leeway in there. Silver now has too much on T147. Should be adjustable so it’s below 1000 on T145.

When are we scheduled for GA #2? T141, right?

 

[LowtherCastle]

Rival worst GNP: 73
Rival average GNP: 113

Blockading both PP and Cahokia = -20cpt at least, I figure. Probably slows SB’s tech rate down 20-40%.

In my experience, he’ll attack our single trireme endlessly. Possibly not attack a two-stack of triremes.

In SG10 we had a pair of privateers blockading Gandhi unattacked, even though Gandhi had about a dozen caravels swimming about. I suppose Gandhi might have a lower attack coefficient. Then again we had a pair blockading every AI with none attacked. Single privateers got attacked immediately.

Safest might be a two-stack at PP. Closer to our seafood.

 

[Kaitzilla]

I don't see any slack in Canal City that would allow for drafting.
GA# 2 starts on T140.

-1 "We will not fight with our brothers and sisters in the Faith" is something we need to pay attention to.
I got it at Size 10 with no garrison and Size 13 with a garrison.
We might be ok if we fight the war with size 12 and less cities?

Sitting Bull only needs 910 for Feudalism.
With 20% prereq bonus and 10% bonus because we and Peter know it already, then Sitting Bull only needs 700 RAW to get Feudalism.
There is no real way to stop it.

Best I can say is trade Aesthetics for 40 + Caste now on T135.
This puts SB in Anarchy 1 turn and keeps him from whipping navy.
Cancel Silver for Rice so SB has 1 less happiness resource.
Take back our Rice from Peter.

Sitting Bull has Inscense and Silk due to Calendar, so he is doing much better with happiness than before.

We can draft Cow City T136 and send a Musket over.
Chop a Galley in Clam City with the two +24 forest.
Draft 1 Musket in Clam City on T138 I think.
Draft in Profit City on T136?

Bribe Peter to DOW Sitting Bull, severing all of SB's trade routes?
He has +3 per turn trade routes with Peter in 5 cities I think?
This should chop him down +10 commerce per turn, or do nothing if he does not have trade routes with Peter.
Hmm, Peter might demand next turn to DOW Sitting Bull or halt trading.
I don't think SB would send a stack through our lands looking for Peter. No idea.