[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[LowtherCastle]

Now that wheat is safe, can we somehow encourage SB (or Peter) to settle more seafood?

 

[Kaitzilla]

Now thst wheat us safe, can we somehow encourage SB (or Peter) to settle more seafood?

We gave Peter our map.
He should know all about those seafood islands now if he didn't before.

Maybe gift Peter some workboats?

 

[LowtherCastle]

I'm already tempted by 1300 without Habor.
Running all that money through our multipliers and the 1.2 tech bonus (no bonus if teching Astro) would probably give more beakers than any Great Scientist Bulb.

If we can’t run 100% research slider.

The only problem is that it takes time.
Like 10 turns to get to Moscow. (Needs to get there before Sci. Methods obsoletes Temple of Artemis)

I don’t know, but I doubt ToA obsoletes for our Trade Mission before Peter gets SciMeth.

 

[Kaitzilla]

If we can’t run 100% research slider.

I don’t know, but I doubt ToA obsoletes for our Trade Mission before Peter gets SciMeth.

Test game indicates you are correct.

Simulated Peter had to get Sci. Method before the gold dropped from 1300 to 1100.

 

[Mitchum]

Then Mitch’s wife and I will fight over who goes next.

She just told me that you're up next.

 

[WastinTime]

Whale City is saying the Golden Age will start on T130.

No, it's saying 129. What makes you think 130? It can get to size 10 on T128 and 129 Parth

What should they do next?

No rest for the wicked. Philip + 1 wrk on boat can add 1 farm to Clams
1 worker on boat goes to wheat (Philip doesn't need to go there, too early)
After wheat, connect more furs for trading overseas.
cowboy: another silver

It's time to workshop! After doing his GS duty, Clams can work 6 hpt workshops (during end of GAge) 5 with caste, 4h in slavery.
This city has to build Wall St. (whip Bank first), probably forge before that.
edit: but no rush, cus Wall St. is not with Sushi Corp

If we can’t run 100% research slider.

Expenses shot up to -95gpt even with 0 unit and 0 supply. Building wealth, we might make it thru the next turnset to 135, but will have to go 50% til 150 unless something comes up. Tech/gold trade across the ocean?

 

[Kaitzilla]

No, it's saying 129. What makes you think 130? It can get to size 10 on T128 and 129 Parth

Oh ya, it works fur for the next 4 turns.

 

[Mitchum]

Is the plan to bank gold for 2 turns and then research Optics? Or are we researching something else until we see what Pete picks after Compass?

 

[LowtherCastle]

No, it's saying 129. What makes you think 130? It can get to size 10 on T128 and 129 Parth

No rest for the wicked. Philip + 1 wrk on boat can add 1 farm to Clams
1 worker on boat goes to wheat (Philip doesn't need to go there, too early)
After wheat, connect more furs for trading overseas.
cowboy: another silver

It's time to workshop! After doing his GS duty, Clams can work 6 hpt workshops (during end of GAge) 5 with caste, 4h in slavery.
Right when the GAges end, this city has to build Wall St. (whip Bank first). And a Market too I think, probably forge before all that.

Expenses shot up to -95gpt even with 0 unit and 0 supply. Building wealth, we might make it thru the next turnset to 135, but will have to go 50% til 150 unless something comes up. Tech/gold trade across the ocean?

if we’re building wealth we might just as well run merchants in one city and pop a GM.

 

[Mitchum]

MG, looks like you'll be playing the first Golden Age turnset. Are you good with my spreadsheet or do you have your own way to plan and communicate the GPP plan? Let me know if you need help. Spreadsheets look like work to my wife.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Don't forget we need to set aside 100 to upgrade 2 Triremes.

Expenses shot up to -95gpt even with 0 unit and 0 supply. Building wealth, we might make it thru the next turnset to 135, but will have to go 50% til 150 unless something comes up. Tech/gold trade across the ocean?

The new AI won't give us any
We have to know them for some amount of turns to get money from them.

 

[WastinTime]

if we’re building wealth we might just as well run merchants in one city and pop a GM.

maybe, but not in a pure GS city and not in a University city.

 

[WastinTime]

Or are we researching something else until we see what Pete picks after Compass?

Lit (1), Music (2). Need to start the GAge. Peter could pick optics.
Our cows->canal trireme might be late, I wasn't expecting Optics so soon, but we could upgrade it halfway over there if we end up rushing Optics.

 

[Kaitzilla]

maybe, but not in a pure GS city and not in a University city.

Whale City?
Closest to Peter and no Uni.

Working 8 merchants would be +24 per turn and would help keep our slider up.

How about National Epic in capital T126?
Did we put the overflow from Silver City into anything?

 

[WastinTime]

overflow from Silver City into anything

missionary + chop

Optics or ?
I was targeting T133. We could do Gunpowder (2) (Pete shouldn't pick that? edit: or maybe he could?) Or Nationalism (3) (I doubt he'd pick that)

One option would be to draft 10-ish muskets during a Nationhood window between GAges T136-T141. One pop loss, 3 anger each. Hmm...
Do shared war with Pete on SB.
Besides the pop loss, tho, we also lose the 8th turn of the GAge for GP farming. But are we putting too much into farming? We'll be doing 900+ bpt.
Some of our GP farms will be done or finishing and can afford a pop loss.

 

[WastinTime]

Working 8 merchants would be +24 per turn and would help keep our slider up.

I suppose this is a good idea, but don't get your heart set on a trade mission. We need to start 2nd GAge, so unless we get Spy and Prophet, there won't likely be a trade mission.
At least with this GM, we are guaranteed to have a way to start the GAge (GM + GS)
That +24 should keep us afloat til T140.

 

[Kaitzilla]

missionary + chop

Optics or ?
I was targeting T133. We could do Gunpowder (Pete can't pick that) Or Nationalism (I doubt he'd pick that)

One option would be to draft 10-ish muskets during a Nationalism window between GAges T136-T141. One pop loss, 3 anger each. Hmm...
Do shared war with Pete on SB.
Besides the pop loss, tho, we also lose the 8th turn of the GAge for GP farming. But are we putting too much into farming? We'll be doing 900+ bpt.
Some of our GP farms will be done or finishing and can afford a pop loss.

Drafting Muskets between golden ages to farm xp from Sitting Bull to get Heroic Epic and West Point unlocked would be really nice. (Free Combat 1 for being Aggressive Civ)

Not like we can make Privateers without Iron.
And getting the Great General from war also means we can save 3744 from not having to tech Fascism.

Can we bribe Russia to attack Sitting Bull right now?
I think as long as the diplo thresholds are met and Russia has a stronger soldier count than SB, he should be willing to DOW for a price.

 

[LowtherCastle]

How many sushi seafoods do we sacrifice by beating down on SB?

Is Nationalism on our Biology path?

Pros
XPs
No spy missions in Canal

 

[MirrorGuard]

Are you good with my spreadsheet or do you have your own way to plan and communicate the GPP plan?

It's handy. I like it.

One option would be to draft 10-ish muskets during a Nationalism window between GAges T136-T141. One pop loss, 3 anger each. Hmm...

I never drafted musketman before, only rifleman. Police state+ slavery+ vassalage might be another option. It's more sustainable in terms of happiness and muskets have more exp( lvl3 guerrilla?).

 

[LowtherCastle]

Do drafted units get the full vassalage +2XP?