Mitchum
Deity
I never checked the detail but I guess GPP round down, yes. I hope my spreadsheet does the right thing. I made it years ago back when LC was a pup.
GP is not like beaker, the more the better. Points are wasted if no more great person is born. Getting the exact amount at the right time is the only concern.Don’t we want to run an even number of specialists everywhere? For example, in Whales, alternating 2 and 4?
Sorry, my mistake.Whale City *locked at pop 10
T127 - Parthenon not Fur
*T128 - Parthenon Fur silver horse +5 scientists
*T129 - wb; 8 sci
No likey. I don't like using a 100% GS city (which is rare this game)
Hmm... I don't like using a university city either.
Whales woulda been good, but it doesn't go til 1400.
I hate to say this, but it should be Cows at 700. We want this mudblood GE/GM born before GAge #2
Clams, a 100% pure GS should be after the GAge.
So now, Science is 900, Clams is 800, Profit gets 600 faster... (no change to the other 3 cities)
Convincing.Since we didn't get Confu spread T127, I strongly prefer putting Peter in Slavery. If we do, then he can't take Tao for 1 turn. Allowing us to lock him in.
I seldom play maps other than Pangaea. Does caravel require open border before it can sail through SB's city?We want to sail thru his canal, etc.
Ya, I still like the Slavery for Russia.Convincing.
I seldom play maps other than Pangaea. Does caravel require open border before it can sail through SB's city?
It is as 7pop on T127.Right. How many hpts is Moscow running under castes?
Peter Trade Mission
Is there some urgency on this or can it wait till Moscow completes its harbor?
I had not considered Parthenon going offline T147.Here's what I realized had to change.
Short answer: Whales (still no starve) 1400 on T149 (not 148). (but that's not a bad thing, it doesn't affect Bio/Sushi!)
Why? because this is not a Biology GS, it's for Astro, and we don't care if it comes as late as T150.
But why not just get it 148 like the plan says?
Because, we have to manually complete SciMeth so we have it on T147 (parthenon is gone)
Research:
146 SM
147 bulb Bio with our 100% pure GS, and manually finish Bio.
148 Liberalism
So we can't get Sushi 1t after GS birth no matter what because we have no way to put a few beakers into Bio.
149 Sushi, bulb some of Astro, Start Astro
150 Astro 100%
I complete you Villagers.I vote fool.
I made a look-up table in my spreadsheet with vlookup function.There ought to be a way to get the spreadsheet to automatically calculate the food for us, but it would take forever to figure out how to do that!
I had not considered Parthenon going offline T147.
Let me look.
**Edit**
Whale City
Ya, a GPP error from hardcoding.
On T128, It currently says 3 specialists and 15 GPP.
Change it to 3 specialists and 9GPP.
For a permanent fix, change box AF11 to read =AE11*3
How about 4 specialists in Whale City T128 and 1 specialist on T140? (not a citizen)
I think that would fix Whale City without messing up the food.
Science City is also hardcoded on the spreadsheet T127, T128, T129, and T130, so keep that in mind if making any changes.
Canal City
Canal City has a food error T136 through T140
Working 5 specialists gives +3 per turn, not +1.
It can save a starving population with the new food.
T136 - T137; 4 specialists
T138 - T140; 6 speclialists
T141 - 8 specialists
T142 - 10 specialists
T143 - 12 specialists (starve)
T144 - 11 specialists (starve)
Science City
The food is off again and the city will starve on T143.
T136 - T138; 2 speclialists.
T139 - T140; 4 specialists.
That should fix it.
There ought to be a way to get the spreadsheet to automatically calculate the food for us, but it would take forever to figure out how to do that!
Silver City
I'm not sure how this error made it through 30 spreadsheets, but Silver City starts with 14GPP on T127, not 5!
I don't think it affects anything.
Clam City
The city will starve on T141 working 9 specialists.
Working 7 should be just fine.
A table is a good idea.I made a look-up table in my spreadsheet with vlookup function.
If Peter is doing Optics, then Slavery will certainly slow him down at least 1 turn.How much slower will Peter tech Optics under Slavery and whipping the bejesus out of his low-food, slow-growing cities?
Can’t we trade for Compass this turn, trade for Slavery next turn if he’s not in Optics?
T128 Whale City, I think we are leaning towards 4 scientists now.PPP T127 to T130
synced to new GPP
* indicates there is a modification
Techs
Get Compass for Banking +*bribe Peter into slavery to accelerate harbor in Moscow?
T127 Music
T128-129 Optics
Workers
Phillip
Joan Dark
Wheat
Shepherd
cottage Science-1N
*stop at T129
Rex
127 Move to Rice tile (so not blocking forest grow)
128-129 workshop Rice-S or if forest grew: Rice-2E
Cowboy
road/mine silver
Heretic
Wheat
Cities
Science City
127- NE *avoid growth on
128 NE, 1 scientist
129 NE, *3 Sci
Cow City
127 wb
*128 wb 3 merchants
*129 wb 7 merchants
Canal City (verify borders will expand T130)
127 Wealth 1 scientist
*T128 - culture 6 artists
*T129 - wealth 10 scientists
Clam City
127 wealth work TundraRiver + 1 sci
128 wealth *6 scientists
129 wealth; 6 sci
*Profit City
127 wb 0 scientist
128 wb 1 scientist
129 wb; 7 sci
*Silver City
T127 wb 2 sci
T128 wb; 9 Sci
T129 - wb; 10 sci
Whale City *locked at pop 10
T127 - Parthenon not Fur
*T128 - Parthenon Fur silver horse +5 scientists
*T129 - wb; 8 sci
Units
Trireme
sail to Clams
Galley in Peter's land
Take Miss to Vlad. Go south to catch white/gray culture on T130
Galley Whale City
Galley
127 Drop workers
128 drop last worker
Hang out and wait for possible GP transport to Profit's possible caravel
Confucian Missionary
Spread to Vlad if no Tao there.
Diplomacy
Peter
Compass for Banking
Don't renegotiate Rice with Peter. If he asks us to cancel deals with SB, we will. So we need to be able to get our Rice back.
Give in to any Peter demand except:
Gold demand will be discussed with team
Everything else is a probably Yes including Paper or our map, or cancel deals w/SB (e.g. if Tao spread and he demanded switch we'd DENY that)
Every turn
Check if Confu/Tao spread somewhere
Check for fist
Save and the start and end of each turn
EP spending on Peter just enough to keep eyes on research
Stopping point
Peter or Sitting Bull demands , pause and discuss with team the amount
Peter starts Optics
Something unexpected happens
begin T130
This is extremely dangerous.If he asks us to cancel deals with SB we will
We can bribe him to Slavery T128, before we revolt, if he’s not teching Optics.A table is a good idea.
I don't really use excel that much.
vlookup would be a new function for me
If Peter is doing Optics, then Slavery will certainly slow him down at least 1 turn.
I guess we can bribe him to Slavery later, but it will cost another tech I think. (Literature?)
In the long term, slavery will help Peter tech and hand out more gold than Caste.
He has gotten the easy great people.
If Peter gets those islands settled, we can trade him Music later.
That way he can still pop borders fast.
This looks like it works,How about 4 specialists in Whale City T128 and 1 specialist on T140? (not a citizen)
I think that would fix Whale City without messing up the food.
I think it wouldn't be too hard if you just assume every person works 2 food. But that's not really the case this game in some cities.There ought to be a way to get the spreadsheet to automatically calculate the food for us, but it would take forever to figure out how to do that!
Right, that's why : slavery for Peter this turn.This is extremely dangerous.
Canceling a deal with an AI because another demanded it will result in the AI refusing to speak to us with a !
Ya, Eiffel is buildable. I don't want to save 800 or whatever with a GE.Is a GM 1500g trade mission in the near future worth more than a GE for Eiffel?
So refuse to cancel deals with SB.This is extremely dangerous.
Canceling a deal with an AI because another demanded it will result in the AI refusing to speak to us with a !