SGOTM3 Rome - Team Smackster

[smackster]

Is it 40 gold for Knight upgrades? How about this, keep our Gold at 800, start researching Chivalry. There is a good chance they will research it before us, but I thought that 30 turns before.

I'm sure it was a mistake not to start researching Chivalry in our GA, we could have got it in 10, I guess I'm not used to playing game where I let the AI research Chivalry, I nearly always get it myself.

The AI always gets Gunpowder and I'll say there is a chance somebody will get that soon.

 

[smackster]

@Smackster: Your thoughts? An hour has passed since your last post. Will wait for them before starting the game again.

As the last post, I'm pissed about Chivalry, clearly now we should have researched it. I think we should cut our losses and research it. Just as long as we have a good cash base for upgrades. I counted 28 horses last night, upgrading 20 will be a good start.

edit: so we may have to stop rushing for a while

 

[Wotan]

OK, at 40% science Chivalry will take 22 turns, shorter than that and we will take a net loss in gold. Chivalry is just below 1000 beakers. I am pretty sure the AI will have it by then, Germany, Japan and Aztecs are all Militaristic and should go after it. At least as far as I can remember from past games. I could put a single specialist on the job.

 

[dmanakho]

It will get better once we have few libraries running.....
We will have to make a decision; This is very very likely if we start researching Chivalry and it takes around 20 turns AI will beat us and we will lose money... I still say lets go to Gunpowder-chemistry towards MT...
we will get some upper techs up to education from AIs and because tech research is so slow we will be way ahead by the time we have MT.
and i guess we will have to revert our decision on postponing building libraries but rather start doing it now.

 

[smackster]

22 turns, ok forget it.

We just have to keep fighting with horses, and hope the AI gets it

edit: If i'd just put the single specialist on it way back then we'd be about to get it, damn that.

 

[dmanakho]

How about starting research on other techs????
we will be waiting until infinity for AI to advance to education

 

[smackster]

Thing is that the AI always seems to get Gunpowder in my games. I think in the next 20 turns we'll see both Gunpowder and Chivalry turning up. Once they do then we can start research.

 

[dmanakho]

ok, this sounds like a plan, so meanwhile we probably should build few libraries to be ready by the time we start research...

 

[smackster]

ok, this sounds like a plan, so meanwhile we probably should build few libraries to be ready by the time we start research...

One at a time, start with the biggest commerce producing city. Only build the next when that has finished. Getting the FP is also very important, Wotan, where is that leader, we are expecting.

 

[Wotan]

OK, will play now. No research...

 

[dmanakho]

Sometimes leaders are hard to harvest... I was hoping to get a leader during my turns, and I did have lots of fighting with elites, but leader didn't come..
I hope Wotan will have better RNG luck.

 

[Wotan]

Just had to give you a sneak preview of my turns. This is absolutely fabulous: BTW, You can see the area and the way I use Legions on mountains and an Empty Byzantium to herd enemies into the open. The same grassland tile was the last stand of a German stack a few turns back. Leonardo's is at the drawing board.

 

[smackster]

I think Leo's

 

[dmanakho]

Cool!!! Build Leo!! You are are so lucky, Didn't i tell you to play lottery more often

 

[Tarkeel]

I haven't looked at the save, but would Lighthouse help in getting to the second continent? Leo's is also very handy

Damn, we're running out of wonders to rush here...

 

[Wotan]

Just remember there was a price to pay... I must have killed at least 6 or 7 Elite Horses before I got the second leader.

Re. Leo's, I have upgraded the first 7 Knights at a cost of 80 gold each. 19 still in our army = 1520 gold. With Leo's = 760 gold. I will build leo's...

 

[dmanakho]

Japanese already built lighthouse during my turns..
i think that is how they met with americans

EDIT: Who needs elite horses. I can clearly see we have knights now.. So all elite horses are expandable for the leaders hunt

 

[Tarkeel]

Ah yeah, I wondered about that.. I really should have a look at the save, things are developing very fast it seems. Leo is also a very good investment, especially as it never expires. Money saved on upgrading is more rushed settlers

 

[smackster]

So we have Chivalry, at last

 

[dmanakho]

How is the tech pace going???
I was just thinking... it took AIs somewhat around 30 turns to get Chivalry, since Gunpowder is more expensive and AIs situation worsens it might take them even longer to get to the gunpowder..
Are you still thinking to wait until they get it 1st?