SGOTM5 - Team Smackster
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smackster
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Sorry its England and Zulu.dmanakho said:
We could skip Scandy, get a ROP and alliance with them and send our troops to capture the GL
smackster
SGOTM
No gifting is only for those with 1 tile Islands. The gifting is temporary in any case. Actually the gifting might be used against any Republic civ as taking those cities will put them into WW straight away.dmanakho said:Yeah, I know, but is that good enough reason to gift them cities instead of simply taking all they have?????????
smackster
SGOTM
Any progress, remember you have to devote your life to this game once you are uptomasjj said:
smackster said:Any progress, remember you have to devote your life to this game once you are up
Hehe.. I dont think I am quite ready to devote my whole life into this.
Anyway, I reckon I will play in a couple of hours.
I sort of kept a slot open tonight to get the turns done in a proper way.
JJ
smackster
SGOTM
Its one of those Japanese cities, probably Kyoto. Hopefully they only have one Samurai there, so might be worth knocking out the other cities first, unless you can get enough Knights in place, I'd say 7-8 Knights and an army to attack Kyoto.
All I ask from the team when they are playing is to tell us when, and keep us updated if things change. Silence is the only thing we don't like.
All I ask from the team when they are playing is to tell us when, and keep us updated if things change. Silence is the only thing we don't like.
Pre-turn:
Lurking around.
Trying to figure out the complexity, and the plans that are for units here and there.
England wants our maps, we say "Aye" when they give us gold too.
Japanese longbowman attacks one of our knights outside Tokyo, redlines it.
Paris flips
Murcia: Galley-Galley
New York, Lahore, Dehli and Madras: HM-HM
Tokyo flips too.
1 - 960 AD:
Paris flipping was kind of beat as that means our troop movement path has foreign land in it.
Will deal with that.
Gift Arabia: Madrid, Barcelona, Seville, Thebes and Alexandria.
Remove troops around the cities and then declaire on Arabia.
We take Osaka.
We re-take Tokyo.
Move out of Kagoshima as its about to flip (43%).
Surround Iroquis capital.
IBT: Janie is mad for our knights, but this is kind of enroute towards the front.
I know our rep will take a hit for breaking the peace, but this kind of sucks, so we say war.
Some riots because of this. (I do hope you are ok with this, but this little girl is just annoying me now....)
2 - 970 AD:
We take Paris back, and roll through.
Ready for Kyoto.
IBT: France retake Rheims. She had some spears in the mountains that I didnt see cause we had no troops around there.
Zulu complete Art of War.
3 - 980 AD:
Kyoto is under attack. It seems pretty well defended, Samurai and at least 4 pikes.
They still wont give us Nagasaki.
4 - 990 AD:
We take Cattaragus. Capital moved to Khanawake.
5 - 1000 AD:
We loose 4 knights at gates of Kyoto. Only one Samurai left now, and two longbowmen coming in to support.
Damn. We had like one army and 8 knights+ there.
Arabs will now give us Fez in a peace deal.
So I post now for debate.
JJ
Lurking around.
Trying to figure out the complexity, and the plans that are for units here and there.
England wants our maps, we say "Aye" when they give us gold too.
Japanese longbowman attacks one of our knights outside Tokyo, redlines it.
Paris flips
Murcia: Galley-Galley
New York, Lahore, Dehli and Madras: HM-HM
Tokyo flips too.
1 - 960 AD:
Paris flipping was kind of beat as that means our troop movement path has foreign land in it.
Will deal with that.
Gift Arabia: Madrid, Barcelona, Seville, Thebes and Alexandria.
Remove troops around the cities and then declaire on Arabia.
We take Osaka.
We re-take Tokyo.
Move out of Kagoshima as its about to flip (43%).
Surround Iroquis capital.
IBT: Janie is mad for our knights, but this is kind of enroute towards the front.
I know our rep will take a hit for breaking the peace, but this kind of sucks, so we say war.
Some riots because of this. (I do hope you are ok with this, but this little girl is just annoying me now....)
2 - 970 AD:
We take Paris back, and roll through.
Ready for Kyoto.
IBT: France retake Rheims. She had some spears in the mountains that I didnt see cause we had no troops around there.
Zulu complete Art of War.
3 - 980 AD:
Kyoto is under attack. It seems pretty well defended, Samurai and at least 4 pikes.
They still wont give us Nagasaki.
4 - 990 AD:
We take Cattaragus. Capital moved to Khanawake.
5 - 1000 AD:
We loose 4 knights at gates of Kyoto. Only one Samurai left now, and two longbowmen coming in to support.
Damn. We had like one army and 8 knights+ there.
Arabs will now give us Fez in a peace deal.
So I post now for debate.
JJ
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That redlined samurai will heal next turn, and Japs most likely will rush another pike.
Our rep is ruined, or was it ruined already?
But i guess you didn't have another choice.
Bottom line - nobody will give us RoP agreement...
Will load save tonight, hopefully Wotan can do it now before Smackster and I go home.
If Arabs give us one tile island then take it now.
Our rep is ruined, or was it ruined already?
But i guess you didn't have another choice.
Bottom line - nobody will give us RoP agreement...
Will load save tonight, hopefully Wotan can do it now before Smackster and I go home.
If Arabs give us one tile island then take it now.
It probably doesn't mess things up much...
I was scratching my head lately thinking if it was a much bigger mistake not researching at max towards MT.....
Right now we just have to push with everything we have
EDIT: it is probably a good idea to start razing non-productive AIs cities unless there is a reason to keep them (like wonders, needed for gifting back for 1 tile islands deals, reheal troops, etc...) So if we don' tneed Paris for any reason i'd say raze it.
I was scratching my head lately thinking if it was a much bigger mistake not researching at max towards MT.....
Right now we just have to push with everything we have
EDIT: it is probably a good idea to start razing non-productive AIs cities unless there is a reason to keep them (like wonders, needed for gifting back for 1 tile islands deals, reheal troops, etc...) So if we don' tneed Paris for any reason i'd say raze it.
Actually, I have really shiit my pants here by moving horsemen past chicago (last barracks in the west-end.) I really hope that doesnt slow us down too much.
I guess there were too many things to take care of here compared to what I am used to.
JJ
I guess there were too many things to take care of here compared to what I am used to.
JJ
smackster
SGOTM
Why didn't you just ask for a ROP. From what I read she said leave, and you said war, that is not only breaking peace, but breaking ROP, for what purpose?. I wanted to save our ROP reputation for a sneak attack later.
I don't think it will make that much difference to our end date, but I think there are going to be a few teams close to us, so we need every turn and every trick to go right to win this.
I can't look at the save until later, but having got Kyoto so close we need to take it, but obviously I can't see how many troops we have.
For cities that don't have a wonder, and have a flip chance we can raize them. Unless that city is pushing back culture. Now that we are at war with France, just finish them off, and then we wont need to raize any of their cities. Having broken our rep, we might as well finish off Arabia now too. Once rep is broken, you can keep breaking it and it makes no difference.
I don't think it will make that much difference to our end date, but I think there are going to be a few teams close to us, so we need every turn and every trick to go right to win this.
I can't look at the save until later, but having got Kyoto so close we need to take it, but obviously I can't see how many troops we have.
For cities that don't have a wonder, and have a flip chance we can raize them. Unless that city is pushing back culture. Now that we are at war with France, just finish them off, and then we wont need to raize any of their cities. Having broken our rep, we might as well finish off Arabia now too. Once rep is broken, you can keep breaking it and it makes no difference.
OK, the position is somewhat in chaos. We need to sort things out fast.
1. Kyoto, we have a lot to lose by failing to take it. Are we sure the Samurai is alone? If it is ATTACK, first with the Knights and finally with the army four´, they all have one HP but the odds are in our favour now. If we leave it we will not be able to take it next turn. Leonardos will help us too so do not raze.
2. I would have liked us to have finished off Spain before shipping almost every unit near Valencia to Scandinavia... Need to address this, Do not attack Scandy until we have taken Valencia. We dont want to send units back and forth do we???
3. Arabia? We gifted the cities without units nearby to retake them, why??? A single HM within two tiles of each city would have done the trick in one turn. We need to retake the western cities and Muscat. Then peace for Fez. WE DO NOT WANT THEM TO HAVE A NEW CORE IN THE WEST. BTW, the HMs on the mountain N Thebes need to go to a better position before attack, now they will only be able to attack across river unless there is still no defender there.
4. France. Kill them off!
5. Egypt. Since our rep is wasted now we can as well skip thinking about waiting for peace agreements to expire. Try to have some units in position as soon as possible and DoW when all their cities can be taken in two turns at the most, landing on the island will take a turn before being able to attack.
6. What on earth are you doing around Memphis/Jaipur? Clearing jungle/irrigating and mining???????????????????????? And Memphis is building a Temple? Why do we want a temple there? And worker action, NOTHING BUT ROADMAKING IN NONPRODUCTIVE AREAS. We only use workers for things that bring us closer to victory. A road running through the mountains all the way to the southern tip will help us, clearing and developing terrain will only slow us down. PLEASE STOP THIS WASTE OF WORKER ACTIONS!!!!!!!
7. Since our rep is wasted now we can as well skip thinking about waiting for peace agreements to expire.
1. Kyoto, we have a lot to lose by failing to take it. Are we sure the Samurai is alone? If it is ATTACK, first with the Knights and finally with the army four´, they all have one HP but the odds are in our favour now. If we leave it we will not be able to take it next turn. Leonardos will help us too so do not raze.
2. I would have liked us to have finished off Spain before shipping almost every unit near Valencia to Scandinavia... Need to address this, Do not attack Scandy until we have taken Valencia. We dont want to send units back and forth do we???
3. Arabia? We gifted the cities without units nearby to retake them, why???
A single HM within two tiles of each city would have done the trick in one turn. We need to retake the western cities and Muscat. Then peace for Fez. WE DO NOT WANT THEM TO HAVE A NEW CORE IN THE WEST. BTW, the HMs on the mountain N Thebes need to go to a better position before attack, now they will only be able to attack across river unless there is still no defender there.4. France. Kill them off!
5. Egypt. Since our rep is wasted now we can as well skip thinking about waiting for peace agreements to expire. Try to have some units in position as soon as possible and DoW when all their cities can be taken in two turns at the most, landing on the island will take a turn before being able to attack.
6. What on earth are you doing around Memphis/Jaipur? Clearing jungle/irrigating and mining???????????????????????? And Memphis is building a Temple? Why do we want a temple there? And worker action, NOTHING BUT ROADMAKING IN NONPRODUCTIVE AREAS. We only use workers for things that bring us closer to victory. A road running through the mountains all the way to the southern tip will help us, clearing and developing terrain will only slow us down. PLEASE STOP THIS WASTE OF WORKER ACTIONS!!!!!!!
7. Since our rep is wasted now we can as well skip thinking about waiting for peace agreements to expire.
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