SGOTM6 - Xteam

That huge treasury may be the deciding factor in this competition.

Keep up the good work Tomoyo.
 
I think some of that cpt came from doubling. I'll check what we built 1000 years ago.

EDIT: Alan has noted no culture builds 1000 years ago.

Oh, and we're getting around -50gpt. :sad:
 
Tomoyo said:
Oh, and we're getting around -50gpt. :sad:

Eeeks - that's not sustainable! (at least, if we continure building culture... ;) ) If you aren't doing this already, try putting towns on wealth that won't be big enough to pop the next building for at least two turns, then put them on production the turn before they'll be big enough. And don't forget to sell as many luxes as possible to other civs.
 
A. Damnit, forgot to do the wealth thing! :(

B. Our trading rep is shot. No one will pay anything for our luxes.
 
The other thing to look at is fpt. If a city is making +6 to +9fpt and cannot be pushed to +10 then reduce them to +5 for growth in 2 turns and hire some taxmen. Also check cities that have hit size 6 and cannot grow due to lack of aqueduct and either shortrush something or hire some taxmen from their wasted food surplus.
 
@Gator: I've been doing that.

@Gyathaar: I got some 50gpt from our luxes now.
 
Don't forget to renew resource deals. There was a nice earlier with America for horses due to expire 5 turns after I handed off. If we can, we should renew it, preferably for more gpt. I did some lux renewals during my turns to increase gpt.

@WillowBrook: 50gpt would last for over 100 turns, which is sustainable. The problem will only arise as we continue to build culture, and we can deal with that later, either with government change or by new trading or selling surplus buildings or building more cities or using wealth or taxmen or ..... But the faster we build culture the sooner we finish and the less time our gold has to last.
 
Here's my five turn log. I'm done.

1150AD (0):

We have no cities. That's means no draft.

We have a great deal of towns, though.

We have no builds coming in 20 turns.

Disband a Rifle in Utica.

Disband a warrior in Shanghai and pop rush ten shields.

Make a misclick and whip Mongun...2 more than needed, but it ends up not costing much.

Disband a Eurosword, a warrior, and an archer in Lugdunum 2. Significant figures piss away one of the twenty shields. :mad:

Disband a Rifle in Gades.

IT:

Salamanca gets a Cathedral
Rouen gets a Library
Eboracum 2 gets a Cathedral
Hovd gets a Cathedral
Agedincum gets a Cathedral
Gades gets a Temple
Rutupiae gets a Library
New Cataractonium 2 gets a Temple
New Lapurdum gets a Temple
New Ratae Coritanorum 2 gets a Temple

6 Settlers are produced.

DAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Produce an explorer!

Total culture: 20272

1160AD (1):

Lose a cav but capture Brest.
Three army attacks capture Marseille.
Lose a cav taking Jonkoping.

1 cities founded.

Filnton drafted.
Kyoto whipped.
New Noviomagus drafted.
Nara drafted.
Orleans drafted.
Beijing drafted.
New Verulanium drafted.
Mohacs drafted.
Tempus Novum double-whipped.
New Isca 2 whipped.
New Rutupiae whipped.

Disband a Rifle in Nanjing
Disband a Rifle in X marks the spot
Disband a Rifle in the other place
Disband a Longbow in New Entremont
Disband a Rifle in New Noviomagus
Disband a Rifle in Entremont
Disband a Rifle in Centralia
Disband a Rifle in somewhere else.
Disband a warrior in Montiguntiacum
Disband a Rifle in Agedincum 2
Disband a cav in Karakorum

New Entremont double whipped.
Nemausas double whipped.
Chengdu whipped.
Ningpo whipped.
Mohacs whipped.
Orleans whipped.
Paris whipped.
Satsuma double whipped.
Agedincum double whipped.
Something easy to spell double whipped.
Rutupiae 2 double whipped.
New Nemausas 2 whipped.
New Tolosa 2 whipped.
New Eboracum whipped.
Bay View double-double whipped.
Theveste double-double whipped.
Lezoux 2 double-double whipped.
Kazan double whipped.
Resort Gyathaar double whipped + two single whips.
New Glevum double-whipped.
New Arausio triple whipped.
Montiguntiacum triple whipped.
Montiguntiacum 2 whipped.
Agedincum 2 whipped.
New Lapurdum double-double whipped.
Caughnawaga triple whipped.
Southern Exposure whipped.
Durocortorum double whipped.
Capiendum Carthaginis double whipped.
New Segusio 2 whipped.
New Lindum 2 whipped.
Cataraugus double-double whipped.

Undisappear the scientist.

IT: Orleans riots, but it builds a settler anyway.

Theveste gets a Cathedral
Cattaraugus gets a Library
Hippo riots. :wallbash:
New Lapurdum gets a Cathedral
Nemausus gets a Cathedral
Caughnawaga gets a Library
Chengdu gets a Cathedral
Ningpo riots, but is irrelevant
New glevum gets a cannon :wallbash:
Monguntiacum gets a Library
New Entremont gets a Library
New Arausio gets a Library
Resort Gyathaar gets a Cathedral
Capiendum Carthaginis gets a Cathedral
Agedincum 2 gets a Cathedral
Bay View gets a Cathedral
Rutupiae 2 gets a cannon :wallbash:
Mongunticaum 2 gets a Library
Lezoux 2 gets a Cathedral
New Tolosa 2 gets a Temple
New Lindum 2 gets a Temple
New Nemausus 2 gets a Temple
New Isca 2 gets a Temple
New Segusio 2 gets a Temple
New Rutupiae 2 gets a Temple
X marks the spot gets a Temple
The other place gets a Temple
Somewhere else gets a Temple

9 settlers produced.

Total culture: 21315, CPT: 1037, CPT gained: 57cpt.

1170AD:

12 cities founded.

Nara drafted.
Axima 2 drafted.
St. Regis drafted.
Beijing drafted.
Shanghai drafted.
Filnton drafted.

Disband a Rifle in Kagoshima.
Disband an archer in New Axima.
Disband a warrior in Oil Springs.
Disband an archer in Glanum.
Disband a Rifle in Glevum.
Disband a Rifle in New Monguntiacum.
Disband a Rifle in Durocortorum 2.
Disband a Rifle in Tempus Novum.
Disband a Rifle in Satsuma.
Disband a cannon in Hangzhou.
Disband a Eurosword in New Lezoux
Disband a warrior in Arausio

Mohacs double whipped.
New Verulanium whipped.
New Axima triple whipped.
New Tolosa double-double whipped.
New Camulodorum double-double whipped.
Alan's Cabin double-double whipped.
Ratae Coritanorum 2 triple whipped.
Akwesasne double-double whipped.
New Burdigala double-double whipped.
New Gergovia double-double whipped.
Oil Springs whipped.
Pristine Peaks double-double whipped.
Utica double-double whipped.
New Cataractonium double whipped.
By the sea double-double whipped.
Ulaanbaatar double-double whipped.
New Rutupiae double whipped.
Skier's Heaven whipped.
Burdigala 2 whipped.
Lugdunum 2 whipped.
Verulanium 2 double-double whipped.
Glanum triple whipped.
Augustodurum double-double whipped.
Richborough double-double whipped.
Durocortorum 2 whipped.
Tempus Novum whipped.
Satsuma whipped.
Lugdunum double-double whipped.
Tolosa double-double whipped.
Gergovia 2 double whipped.
New Ratae Coritanorum double whipped.
Hangzhou triple whipped.
New Lezoux triple whipped.
Arausio triple whipped.

IT: Paris riots. Damn.

Utica gets a Cathedral
Satsuma gets a Cathedral
Grand River gets a Barracks :wallbash:
Lugdunum gets a Cathedral
Kagoshima gets a Temple
Richborough gets a Cathedral
Hangzhou gets a Cathedral
Ulaanbaatar gets a Cathedral
Oil Springs gets a Temple
Augustodorum gets a Cathedral
Akwesasne gets a Cathedral
Skier's Heaven gets a barracks?
Tolosa gets a Cathedral
Gergovia 2 gets a Cathedral
By the sea gets a Library
Glanum gets a Library
Burdigala 2 gets a Temple
Durocortorum 2 gets a Library
Arausio gets a Library
Camulodunum 2 gets a Cathedral
Verulanium 2 gets a Cathedral
New Ratae Coritanorum gets a Cathedral
New Tolosa gets a Cathedral
New Axima gets a Cathedral
New Lezoux gets a Cathedral
Tempus Novum gets a Cathedral
Lugdunum 2 gets a Cathedral
Alan's Cabin gets a Cathedral
Pristine Peaks gets a Library
Ratae Coritanorum gets a Cathedral
New Gergovia 2 gets a Cathedral
New Burdigala 2 gets a Library
New Monguntiacum 2 gets a Temple
New Glevum 2 gets a Temple

1 settler produced.

Total culture: 22449, CPT: 1134, CPT gained: 97. :eek:

1180AD: Capture Liverpool with no casualties.

Capture Cherbourg with the loss of one cavalry.

Capture New Rheims with no casualties.

Right-clicking has somehow disabled itself.

2 cities founded.

Filnton drafted.
Entremont 2 drafted.
Augustodurum 2 drafted.
Beijing drafted.
Shanghai drafted.
New Verulanium drafted.
Eboracum drafted.
Cataractonium drafted.
Lyons drafted.
St. Regis drafted.
Nagoya drafted.

Disband an archer in New Richborough.
Disband a warrior in New Richborough.
Disband a EuroSword in Eboracum.
Disband two warriors in Lindum.
Disband a Rifle in Kagoshima.
Disband a Rifle in Oil Springs.
Disband a Rifle in Centralia
Disband three Rifles and two warriors in New Augustodurum.
Disband a EuroSword in Qianqin.
Disband a Rifle in New Burdigala.
Disband a Longbow in Tatong.

Disband a Rifle in Augustodurum 2.
Disband a Rifle in Glevum.
Disband a EuroSword in Kaifeng.
Disband a Rifle in Guangzhou.
Disband a Rifle in Paoting.
Disband a Rifle in Arausio 2.
Disband a Rifle in Glevum 2.
Disband a warrior in Matsuyama.

Brest double-double whipped.
New Segusio double-double whipped.
New Verulanium double-double whipped.
River's Bend double-double whipped.
Hippo double-double whipped.
New Lugdunum 2 double-double whipped.
Nara double-double whipped.
New Richborough triple whipped.
Kyoto double-double whipped.
New Monguntiacum double whipped.
Filnton double-double whipped.
Durocortorum double-double whipped.
Camulodunum double-double whipped.
Eboracum triple whipped.
Lindum double whipped.
Entremont 2 double-double whipped.
New Entremont 2 double-double whipped.
Kagoshima triple whipped.
Nagoya double-double whipped.
Oil Springs triple whipped.
Centralia triple whipped.
Axima triple whipped.
Qianqin triple whipped.
New Burdigala triple whipped.
Tatong double whipped.
Augustodurum triple whipped.
Axima 2 double-double whipped.
Glevum triple whipped.
Kaifeng triple whipped.
Guangzhou triple whipped.
X marks the spot double-double whipped.
Paoting triple whipped.
Arausio 2 triple whipped.
Glevum 2 triple whipped.
Allegheny double-double whipped.
Curovernum double-double whipped.
New Augustodurum triple whipped.
Ratae Coritanorum double whipped.
Rutupiae triple whipped.
Matsuyama triple whipped.

IT:

Kyoto gets a Cathedral
Guangzhou gets a Library
Kagoshima gets a Cathedral
Nara gets a Cathedral
Camulodunum gets a Library
Hippo gets a Library
Nagoya gets a Cathedral
Oil Springs gets a Cathedral
Qianqin gets a Cathedral
Tatong gets a Cathedral
Centralia gets a Library
Matsuyama gets a Cathedral
Eboracum gets a Cathedral
Kaifeng gets a Cathedral
Lindum gets a Library
Rutupiae gets a Library
Paoting gets a Cathedral
Brest gets a Library
Glevum gets a Cathedral
Axima gets a Library
Durocortorum gets a Cathedral
New Verulanium riots but gets a Cathedral
New Augustodurum gets a Cathedral
New Burdigala gets a Cathedral
Filnton gets a Cathedral
Entremont 2 gets a Library
Augustodurum 2 gets a Cathedral
River's Bend gets a Cathedral
Curvernum 2 gets a Cathedral
Glevum 2 gets a Cathedral
Axima 2 gets a Library
Arausio 2 gets a Library
New Entremont 2 gets a Library
New Lugdunum 2 gets a Library
New Richborough 2 gets a Library
New Augustodurum gets a Library
New Segusio 2 gets a Library
X marks the spot gets a Library

Total culture: 23697 , CPT: 1248, CPT gained: 114 :eek:

1190AD: Lose an elite cav to a redlined rifle on grassland. :mad:

Lose two rifles and an elite cav attacking a longbow on grassland!!! :mad: [pissed]

Take Leeds with the loss of one cav.

2 cities founded.

Cataractonium drafted.
Edo drafted.
Lazy summer drafted.
St. Regis drafted.
Beijing drafted.
Shanghai drafted.
Lyons drafted.

Press Enter by accident. I think this called for a reload. I didn't have time to rush anything.

Disband an explorer in Fine Waters.
Disband two warriors in Leptis Minor.
Disband a Rifle in Glevum.
Disband a Rifle in New Deva 2.
Disband a Rifle in Lyons.
Disband a Rifle in Isca 2.
Disband a Rifle in Cataractonium 2.
Disband a Rifle in New Augustordurum 2.
Disband a Rifle in Mauch Chunk.
Disband a Rifle in somewhere else.
Disband a Rifle in New Cataractonium.

Something easy to spell double whipped.
New Verulanium triple whipped.
New Monguntiacum double whipped.
New Mohacs 2 double whipped.
Grand River double-double whipped.
New Noviomagus double-double whipped.
Tokyo double-double whipped.
Fine Waters triple whipped.
Salamnace whipped.
New Eboracum 2 triple whipped.
Mountain meadow double whipped.
Noviomagus 2 double-double whipped.
Leptis Minor triple whipped.
Kazan double whipped.
New Glevum triple whipped.
Shanghai triple whipped.
Leif's Hideaway double-double whipped.
Xinjian double-double whipped.
Verulanium double-double whipped.
Entremont double-double whipped.
New Glanum triple whipped.
Darhan double whipped.
Richborough 2 whipped.
New Rutupiae double whipped.
New Camulodunum double whipped.
New Mohacs double whipped.
Monguntiacum double-double whipped.
Curovernum double whipped.
Liverpool double whipped.
Bayonne double whipped.
Amiens double-double whipped
New Rheims double whipped.
Isca 2 triple whipped.
Cataractonium 2 triple whipped.
Deva 2 triple whipped.
New Augustodurum 2 triple whipped.
Mauch Chunk triple whipped.
Somewhere else triple whipped.
New Cataractonium whipped.
New Axima whipped.

Get about 50 gpt trough lux deals.

As usual, my scientist died, so I need to hire another one.

IT:

Carthage gets a cloud of smoke.
Entremont gets a Cathedral
New Rutupiae gets a Cathedral
Lyons gets a Temple
Shanghai gets a marketplace and smoke
Tokyo gets a Cathedral
Kazan gets a Cathedral
Grand River gets a Cathedral
Xinjian gets a Library
New Eboracum gets a Library
Leptis Minor gets a Library
Verulanium gets a Cathedral
Mauch Chunk gets a Cathedral
Amiens gets a Cathedral
Liverpool gets a Temple
Curvernum gets a Cathedral
Bayonne gets a Temple
New Glevum gets a Cathedral
Monguntiacum gets a Cathedral
Cataractonium gets a Cathedral
New Camulodunum gets a Cathedral
Leif's Hideaway gets a Cathedral
New Glanum gets a Cathedral
Something easy to spell gets a Cathedral
New Noviomagus gets a Cathedral
New Rheims gets a Temple
Fine waters gets a Cathedral
Cataractonium 2 gets a Cathedral
Isca 2 gets a Cathedral
Deva 2 gets a Cathedral
Noviomagus 2 gets a Cathedral
New Mohacs 2 gets a Library
New Verulanium 2 gets a Library
New Augustodurum 2 gets a Cathedral
Somewhere else gets a Library
New Axima gets a Temple
New Deva 2 gets a Temple

2 settlers produced.

Total culture: 25044, CPT: 1347, CPT gained: 99.

1200AD:

2 cities founded.

Edo drafted.
Lazy Summer drafted.
Willowbrook drafted.
Beijing drafted.
Lyons drafted.
Mohacs drafted.
Cataractonium drafted.
St. Regis drafted.

Disband a cannon in Glanum 2.
Disband a Rifle in New Gergovia.
Disband a Rifle in Gator's Point.
Disband a Rifle in New Richborough.
Disband a Rifle in Hakodate.
Disband a Rifle in Leptis Magna.
Disband a Rifle in New Glevum 2.
Disband a Rifle in Rolling Hills.

Glanum 2 triple whipped.
New Cataractonium 2 double-double whipped.
Segusio 2 double-double whipped.
Tolosa 2 double-double whipped.
New Lindum double whipped.
Lezoux double-double whipped.
Nanjing double-double whipped.
New Lezoux double whipped.
Gergovia triple whipped.
Gator's Point triple whipped.
New Richborough triple whipped.
Hakodate whipped.
Leptis Magna whipped.
New Glveum 2 triple whipped.
Rolling Hills triple whipped.
Brest double whipped.
Besancon double whipped.
Avignon double whipped.
Paris double whipped.

Spot an English leader.

CPTPT these turns: 66.5.

SAVE
 
Great turns Tomoyo :goodjob:

A few almost 100point gain turns :eek: Hopefully we can keep up that rate considering we have 37 cities without any culture. We're currently averaging 5.1 cpc.
 
@Gyathaar: Ah, I divided by six, not five. :blush:

Why I did that, I have no idea, but at least it's good news. :)

EDIT: What's cpc and cptcpt? I thought it was cptpt. :p

EDIT2: If the pattern continues, our cptpt will go down, because it looks like a bell curve. :lol:
 
Don't you mean cptpc? Culture per turn per city. I doubt we have 5.1 culture points per city. :D
 
Great work Tomoyo. With that big advance, if we can continue at 60 cpt per turn now we finish in 1380 AD, which I guestimate is ahead of where Peanuts are heading. That's just 34 turns from here.

Gyathaar
AlanH
Tomoyo - just played a blinder!
leif erikson UP
WillowBrook - On deck
DJMGator13

It's all yours leif. Go for it!
 
Here's the Culture Curve. I don't think it looks anything like a bell:
 

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Not when I plot it. Obviously it will turn over when we start running out of cities to improve, but I'd be surprised if we are still playing then.

It's pretty erratic, because of variations in the cities ready for pop rushing each turn, but the trend still looks positive to me. Here's CPT and CPT/turn with a trend line averaged over 10 turns.
 

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