Sharp drop in the number of miracles

[Milan's Warrior]

There are several debates about God (or Gods or Goddesses or no Gods) so I want to ask to the christians (and possibly people of other religions too). How do they explain the sharp drop in the number of miracles.

In Biblical times and in Jesus times miracles seemed to be an everyday thing. Up to medieeval times miracles were still quite frequent; resurrections were also quite frequent.

The closer we get to modern days the fewer miracles we see. I don't think we had claims of big miracles (such as the parting of the Red Sea) in centuries.

How do you explain that?

Being an atheist I explain it with the fact that now people just don't believe in these things anymore

 

[Elgalad]

To this Christian, no miracle was needed after the final one ~ Jesus Christ's Resurrection.



-Elgalad

 

[Marla_Singer]

To this Christian, no miracle was needed after the final one ~ Jesus Christ's Resurrection.

But then why are there still miracles after Jesus ? Are you saying he's not the messiah ?

Then you're not Christian. You're Jewish.

 

[CivCube]

Regardless, God continues to show his love and oneness with us by giving us little hints throughout our lives.

 

[Marlos]

And what do you need a miracle for? God has already proven His great and awesome power so many times! As a Christian, I do not need God to prove His mightiness to me, for he has already done so. To see God at work in the lives of so many fellow believers is such a wondrous thing.

Do you need a sign? "An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign shall be given to it" (Matt 12:39) And the Old Testament warns us not to "put the Lord your God to the test" (Duet 6:16)

God provides the miracles to those that believe! To unbelievers there shall be no signs. From personal experience, I can tell you of people that were dying that miraculously recovered. Doctors had no explanations.

To what degree does something that is inexplicable become a miracle? They may not be of the same proportions as you see in the Bible, but miracles are happening every day!

 

[Marla_Singer]

Regardless, God continues to show his love and oneness with us by giving us little hints throughout our lives.

But then why doesn't he give bigger hints once in a while ?

Are natural catastrophes his vengeance ? Or are they unrelated to Him ?

 

[IglooDame]

But then why doesn't he give bigger hints once in a while ?

Are natural catastrophes his vengeance ? Or are they unrelated to Him ?

I'd presume that there is no way to comprehend why an omnipotent being does what he does unless he wanted it to be comprehended. Circular argument, of course, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

[Strider]

No real point in answering this question.

If a miracle happened today, would you believe it happened?

 

[Moss]

Miracles happen every day...whether you ever hear about them or not, whether they are caused by some divine force or not.

Every day someone lives that should have died. Every day someone walks that should paralyzed. Every day someone hears who should be deaf, and someone speaks who should be mute. Every day someone survives a severe crash or a life-threatning situation. Now these people are extremely lucky, can thank their lives on medical research and technology, but even then there are the unexplainable. Those are miracles.

 

[Marla_Singer]

No real point in answering this question.

If a miracle happened today, would you believe it happened?

If I would see the Red Sea opening itself to let people cross it. I'm pretty I would believe it happened.

 

[Strider]

If I would see the Red Sea opening itself to let people cross it. I'm pretty I would believe it happened.

haha, I somehow doubt that. Likely you'd tried to pass it off with future technology, an earthquake, or any other even more unlikely possibility.

Oh, sure you can say that now, but it all comes down to the moment. People don't give up there beliefs easy, the only one's who change there beliefs did not truly believe in there orginal belief to begin with.

 

[Marla_Singer]

Miracles happen every day...whether you ever hear about them or not, whether they are caused my some divine force or not.

Every day someone lives that should have died. Every day someone walks that should paralyzed. Every day someone hears who should be deaf, and someone speaks who should be mute. Every day someone survives a severe crash or a life-threatning situation. Now these people are extremely lucky, can thank their lives on medical research and technology, but even then there are the unexplainable. Those are miracles.

And once in a while, someone slides on a banana and dies.

Well, anyway, I don't think miracles have necessarily occured or have necessarily not occured. I trust people saying me it's true and I don't have any reason to convince him it's not simply because I would doubt about it. I don't think those are the most important things in life. What is important is to keep wondering if what we did was good. There's no good people and bad people. We all do bad things and good things.

 

[Hundegesicht]

With the advance of technology Miracles have become less and less obvious and/or are no longer needed in certain fields (like medicine) so are moving into other areas. Or perhaps because there are many more people who claim "there must be a rational explaination, miracles are impossible!" so people generally get the mindset that it really wasn't a miracle and ignore it. Don't quote me on that, I'm just thinking of possible explainations.

Maybe it's the arbitrary nature of miracles that causes fewer instances. You can't just reproduce a miracle in a controlled scientific enviroment (unless God is in a good mood) so you can't really prove or even identify the mechanics of it. Back in the middle ages, people were much more likely to beleive what they've heard and seen without needing proof other than "God did it." (thus more were recorded as being such)

 

[Marla_Singer]

haha, I somehow doubt that. Likely you'd tried to pass it off with future technology, an earthquake, or any other even more unlikely possibility.

Oh, sure you can say that now, but it all comes down to the moment. People don't give up there beliefs easy, the only one's who change there beliefs did not truly believe in there orginal belief to begin with.

I'm not an atheist Strider. I don't exclude any possibilities. I simply don't know enough.

 

[PantheraTigris2]

I personally have experienced (what to me) were absolute miracles. It all depends on how much faith you have. And how much you trust God. And if you turn to Him, ask for help, and have faith He will show His influnce in your life.

You have to believe (which very few do nowadays - in fact it's the opposite), and you have to stand strong. ...But that's too much to ask for most people, because so many are pathetically weak in the faiths. And they wonder why they are so empty. And oh, where are the signs and miracles...? :shakehead

 

[stormbind]

The closer we get to modern days the fewer miracles we see. I don't think we had claims of big miracles (such as the parting of the Red Sea) in centuries.

How do you explain that?

There are several answers. (1) There aren't supposed to be any miracles after Jesus, or (2) they are supposed to be subtle, or (3) the ancient ones were exagerated like the angler's tale of a fish that got away.

For the second, you could say that in the past, big events were required to attract the attention of uneducated folk; perhaps huge miracles aren't as fascinating to people who do not understand what causes simple wind. Whereas today, we are more discerning and able to appreciate tiny miracles.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he didn't exist.

 

[Double Barrel]

Seeing my son born was a miracle to me, regardless if I knew the science behind his conception and birth.

 

[Mapache]

Seeing my son born was a miracle to me, regardless if I knew the science behind his conception and birth.

But in fact it is a regular thing and may even repeat.

The aging of Hawking could be considered a miracle. He should be dead for at least 20 years.
http://www.hawking.org.uk
For a biblical miracle he should start walking again, though.
I'm atheist and not a miracle.

 

[~Corsair#01~]

Lots of miracles in ye olde days, eh?
In the words of curtsibling- Prove it.

 

[FearlessLeader2]

You don't need miracles today, prophecy is unfolding every minute. Do you or any literate person with access to a newspaper have any credible counter to the argument that the four horsemen are riding hard and fast over this earth? That some of the seals have already been opened?

(Yeah, I know there have been natural disasters in the pasts, and wars, but today they happen with unheard-of frequency.)