Should husbands let their wives into the pit?

[Kozmos]

As a person who has been in a school fight (No bar fights since I'm not that old yet): No. I'm not like that at all. :|

School fights are not the same as street and bar fights. Dangerous objects enter the field there and your chances of getting stabbed and bleeding out or having a blow to the head that kills you ten days later rises dramatically. If you are smart you will get pragmatic about it and get out of the way.

That reminds of that guy who had a sex change and went into womens MMA. Guess what resulted? Broken orbital bones for the original ladies.

 

[nc-1701]

That reminds of that guy who had a sex change and went into womens MMA. Guess what resulted? Broken orbital bones for the original ladies.

Meh. Fallon Fox is 5-1 in scrub promotions, she would get absolutely wrecked by Rousey or any top 10 women fighters, the controversy about her was a joke. Also broken orbital bones are pretty common in MMA/boxing, no big surprise.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I think it's a heavy metal thing... I've been to a handful of Hip-Hop shows, I remember the last one I was we were up at the front and some dude started doing that. Everyone was like WTH? And security kicked him out.

Meh... I remember rap/hip-hop having a mosh/pit whatever phase in the 90's (see ONXY "Slam!")when I was a young'un... No idea if it still goes on, im too old now for that sort of nonsense (fun).

Never having gone to a Metal concert or been in a metal-mosh pit myself, I can't help but wonder if a couple on a date might be treating going close to the pit as an exciting, thrill seeking, bonding-to-induce-sexytime-feelings experience. Is that something that happens?

B/c I can imagine a situation where you might want to impress your date (especially someone new to the experience) by saying "Look honey, see that pit? Looks scary right? Let's get closer, it'll be exciting! Don't worry I'll protect you! (thus making you feel safe, building trust and proving my worth as a companion/sex partner). In some ways I can imagine this being the perfect semi-controlled environment to experience some pseudo-danger together without too much risk of death or maiming.

I will admit that it seems like guys are more likely to try to impress dates in this way than girls, but I could be wrong... again I have never been to a metal concert... but if it is more likely that guys do this, then the OP seems on point in raising the issue of whether guys (trying to impress their dates with their machismo protection contrivance) are putting others at risk for their own purposes.

FTR, to me the whole exercise seems kinda like a clear case of "at your own risk" activity for everyone at or near the "pit."

 

[Kozmos]

Meh. Fallon Fox is 5-1 in scrub promotions, she would get absolutely wrecked by Rousey or any top 10 women fighters, the controversy about her was a joke. Also broken orbital bones are pretty common in MMA/boxing, no big surprise.

Yeah but Rousey is one of those uncommonly strong variants. (from the fights I've seen with her, she just seems freakishly strong compared to others) The interviews of one the defeated fighters with Fox said she'd never felt so man-handled though

 

[Timsup2nothin]

As a person who has been in a school fight (No bar fights since I'm not that old yet): No. I'm not like that at all. :|

I strongly suggest that you get that way before you get old enough. School fights are about putting on a show and being hailed at the end as a dominant juvenile mammal. Bar fights involve at least one participant and usually both who are fully aware that they are in a life or death situation...and if they become a three hundred pound plus rolling ball of meat that knocks a few bystanders down and rolls right on over them they will be totally unconcerned if the bystanders are harmed.

As I said, if you are big enough to stop a three hundred pound rolling ball of meat I'll happily stand behind you. But odds are if I am behind you I will not only have to deal with the three hundred pound ball but you getting knocked into me as well...so I'll pass.

 

[Traitorfish]

I'm pretty sure most bar fights are about being the dominant mammal, too. I think you have to be in a pretty seedy establishment if brawlers actually set about with the intention of murderifying each other.

 

[Borachio]

I thought they were mostly about drunken misunderstandings.

At least, that's how most of the barfights (actually taking place outside) I ever got involved in happened.

A few of them weren't even about misunderstandings, but simply some guy or other trying to express his frustration with life in general, in a physical way.

If I was going to try and dominate somebody physically, I wouldn't start by getting intoxicated.

 

[NovaKart]

Maybe you all could try to avoid places where bar fights occur. I go to bars from time to time but this isn't really something I come across. I go to dives too sometimes, not just posh places. I wonder what kind of places you hang out in if you've been in several bar fights. I can only think of one I've witnessed and I knew both people involved and it stopped quickly.

 

[Sommerswerd]

three hundred pound rolling ball of meat

and bone... don't forget the bones... they hurt.

And glass, and wood too, if we are talking barfights...ouch!

If I was going to try and dominate somebody physically, I wouldn't start by getting intoxicated.

Well... that can actually be quite pleasurable in a different context with less glass, and less hurt involved... maybe even a little hurt involved

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I can only think of one I've witnessed and I knew both people involved and it stopped quickly.

That's not a bar fight. That's the same kind of juvenile mammal dominance exercise as a schoolyard fight.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

and bone... don't forget the bones... they hurt.

And glass, and wood too, if we are talking barfights...ouch!

If bones are sticking out of the ball of meat the fight is pretty close to over. But yeah, you want to get clear of any tables that they might knock into you for sure.

 

[NovaKart]

That's not a bar fight. That's the same kind of juvenile mammal dominance exercise as a schoolyard fight.

OK, do you go drinking in the Thunderdome or something?

 

[Kozmos]

I'm pretty sure most bar fights are about being the dominant mammal, too. I think you have to be in a pretty seedy establishment if brawlers actually set about with the intention of murderifying each other.

Thing is drunkeness kind of dulls the judgement on how hard are you hitting someone and the human body is very frail, male or female. A friend of mine got knocked hard by a few punks on a bus station for a pack of cigarettes, went to a hospital, got patched up, had scans of all kinds just to be on the safe side and then died of a brain hemorrhage ten days later.

It doesn't matter what kind of a bar it is, most of the time. (never seen a fight in a blues and jazz bar though but they feature mean drunks nonetheless) All it takes is one tony with a chip on his shoulder or a hard-on for fighting.

 

[Sommerswerd]

If bones are sticking out of the ball of meat the fight is pretty close to over. But yeah, you want to get clear of any tables that they might knock into you for sure.

well the bones are under meat whether they are exposed or not... And they hurt just the same... covered or exposed.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

I agree that the title and its theme is sexist. That said, I feel a lot worse when flying into non-participating females rather than males, so I am all for them keeping their distance (and if necessary their male companions ensuring so - within reasonable limits of course).
When a male stands close to the pit protecting his female companion with his arms it brings forth the claim that people should not bump into them (creating more tension than otherwise when it happens anyway) and I agree that this may be an unreasonable claim.

went to a hospital, got patched up, had scans of all kinds just to be on the safe side and then died of a brain hemorrhage ten days later.

Yeah it is pretty terrifying how quick it can happen. An aquiaentance of mine once took part in a major fight and later went with headaches to the doctor and he was told that there was some kind of dormant or contained brain hemorrhage or something and that it could explode any time and kill him and I believe there is nothing one can do about it but wait.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

OK, do you go drinking in the Thunderdome or something?

Nope. But I have been in places where there were no cops to call and if someone started trouble it ended right then and there. There are advantages and disadvantages to such places.

 

[NovaKart]

Nope. But I have been in places where there were no cops to call and if someone started trouble it ended right then and there. There are advantages and disadvantages to such places.

Even if you're not in a place where law enforcement is entirely non-existent it would still take time for them to show up. However, like traitorfish said, it seems like you hang out in really seedy places if you've come across this several times.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I have no idea what "the pit" is, but the idea of a husband "allowing" his wife to do anything seems rather old-fashioned to me. So I'll vote yes simply on the grounds that it's her business where she goes.

 

[Borachio]

^ That's true. It's not only "rather old-fashioned", it's postively atavistic (relatively speaking).

 

[warpus]

Like I said before, I have yet to meet a man who tells his wife what to do (and she listens). But I often meet men who do exactly what their wives ask of them. So it's a bit strange to assume the opposite (unless I suppose the story is set somewhere in the developing world or something).