stJNES10: Expand and Conquer

[Fëanor]

1)Vikingland will send Experienced Vikings to help Britain secure the British Isle and then leave the island, only keeping a single trading post at the tip of Scotland
3) All Island controlled by Britain, or parts of Island controlled by Britain will be turned over to Vikingland, The Tradeing post at Elba will stay in British hands.
6) Expansions trough war with other nations (not tribes) shall be disscused with the other and attacks shall be combinded.

Ok, before i accept or refuse such treaty i would like to get some clarification on some points.

1) How many fighters are we talking about
3) Literally this point would mean that my only lands would be those at the trading port of the Elbe since all my other lands are on islands, that cant be what your mean, the more obvious meaning would be that i turn over the Ireland and those two small islands, is that what you mean?
6) with "shall be disscused" do you mean that we will discuss wheter to attack a target or that you will inform me of a target and expect my aid?

 

[blackheart]

To: Vikingland
From: Normandy

We come to you with a treaty of friendship and lucrative trade. Will you accept?

 

[Stormbringer]

Orders for Novgorod:

Just increase economy by promoting trade between the fish and food stuffs of the Baltic and furs and lumber from the North
(Not sure if I can do this the same turn as upgrading economy, so if I can do it, if not - wait for next turn) Put 3 eco into the Riga Wonder/Project

 

[Jason The King]

Berbers are bronze, somali are stone.

 

[blackheart]

whens next update?

 

[Jason The King]

hopefully Friday. If not, Saturday.

 

[Heine]

Ok, before i accept or refuse such treaty i would like to get some clarification on some points.

1) How many fighters are we talking about
3) Literally this point would mean that my only lands would be those at the trading port of the Elbe since all my other lands are on islands, that cant be what your mean, the more obvious meaning would be that i turn over the Ireland and those two small islands, is that what you mean?
6) with "shall be disscused" do you mean that we will discuss wheter to attack a target or that you will inform me of a target and expect my aid?

1) As many as you would need and that woulden't hamper my expansion in Norway or other places a lot, so I think around 500-750 Men
3) I look at the British Isle (England, Scotland, Wales) not as an island in this concern, they are your homeland and I don't claim anything there. I mean handing over Ireland and the small island yes
6) the first, like an alliance where we not attack if not both agree to it.

This Island thing was acctualy a real deal between the Norwegian King Harald Hardraade and the English king at his time, to stop Norwegain raiding :-D

To Normany:
As your poeple acctualy are Norwegians (those the name Normans) we accept.

 

[Azale]

The Eastern Church of Moskva

Note: Jason, if this is a little to advanced, tell me and Ill cut some parts out for later use.

While not developed as much as modern Christianity, the proto-Christian faith that the Eastern Church teaches is not to much different.
The main legend perpetuated by the Church is that the son of God (which goes by several names in Moskva and which shall be referred to as that for now as the Church itself hasnt settled on which name is the most accurate) was born in Moskva nearly 2000 years ago as the very first city settlements began. He was a kind and giving man who tried to bring faith and hope to everyone he came in contact with, and he had a certain way about him that people trusted him, and many considered him the son of god. Well, most people. The legend continues to say that the early Moskvian government imprisoned him, on charge of trying to undermine the governments power. He was becoming to popular for his own good. When he was finally released after 20 years, he continued on his work. The new Moskovian dictator, Sergey Ivanov, saw him as a threat the same way the previous government had. But Ivanov was especially known for his cruelty to everyone and especially anyone who may, atleast as he saw it, rise up against him. He ordered him to be captured and executed in public for all to see. And that he was, in some of the more greusome ways. It is not known whether it was a crucification, but the Church describes it as such in most of thier teachings. The populace revolted and overthrew Ivanov, but it took several hundred years before the Eastern Church would finally start up, taking the legend and writing several volumes on the faith itself.

As you can see, there are some vague and less developed parts of the legend. Some claim outside of Moskovia that the legend mightve taken place in faraway lands but the Church took the events and put Muskovia in its place. There is no proof of that however, and many Muskovians prefer the teachings of the Eastern Church to that of pagan beliefs or no beliefs at all.

Only just in the last 50 or so years has the Eastern Church become a prominent power, to where now the Church has a vital hand in who becomes King and is the official Church of the official religion of Muskovia.

To further eccentuate this growing power, the new King Vlad Sviatoy or Vlad the Holy as he is called, has ordered the construction of what is considered "A Grand Wonder of the World"

The Blue Basillica will be the headquarters so to speak, of the Eastern Church, and is to be designed with stunning visuals inmind. It will be domed and have a gigantic feel when you step inside. While not entirely blue, it will have hints of blue enough to be deemed the Blue Basilica.

 

[Fëanor]

This Island thing was acctualy a real deal between the Norwegian King Harald Hardraade and the English king at his time, to stop Norwegain raiding

that deal was that the Vikings were allowed to settle in a couple of the costal areas of scotland and ireland, i am willing to accept the such a deal

What i am suggesting to replace point 3) is: The Vikings will receive all British Islands except Great Britain and Ireland, however they will be allowed to create 10 exclaves in Great Britain and 5 exclaves in Ireland

also we offer to pay you "Danegeld" in the form of letting you keep our profits from the trade between our nations.

 

[Heine]

I need to know what exclaves are

 

[Princeps]

I need to know what exclaves are

Enclaves and exclaves

 

[erez87]

Ones I come from dinner at grandma's house i'll send orders and maybe story

 

[das]

Oh no you don't, Azale. The Black God vetoed the birth of Christ LONG AGO. And the White God didn't insist on that one, neither.

 

[amirsan]

I definately think its too advanced... is it even possible to build such architecture at this time?!?! :O

 

[Xen]

it is the iron age, so yes, it is

the Byzantine buil the Hagia sophia (looks ot be base picture) without the help of all the old Roman engineering tricks, other then utilizing the Dome and arch, and since those artn exactley hard concepts to master, such a wonder is more the possible.

the religion thing seems a bit out of step, particuraley touting it to be "proto christianity", but thats none of my buisness what his people belive in

 

[das]

OOC: NK, btw, I hate to threadjack, but you might want to know that I updated the "By a Single Decision". Also, I still do see your sig. It burns my eyes, actually.

IC:

Story:

"And heard Bakoslav of the treachery that prevented the attack on Sibiya from taking place. And he was enraged, but calmed down quickly, and the bodies of the traitors were burned down very slowly for five days and five nights, and they screamed and begged for mercy, for quick death, but the Both Gods agreed with Bakoslav and continued to suck the life out of those who prevented their glory from becoming known to the world in the taking of Sibiya.

And on the next day, heard Bakoslav that in Sibiya the Dacians are gathering in full strenght, with spears making the city look like a wilderbeast, and heard he of foreigners who seek to help the Dacians, and of downcast spirits who chose to oppose him as well, and learned he that his forces were perhaps much smaller then those of his enemies, but he did not despair.

Instead, he declared thus - "This will be the day of my glory. I might die, and so might my entire army die, but defeated and forced to flee I will never be. Enough of tedious sieges and careful waiting! To Sibiya! To death and glory!". And his declaration was seconded by his army, which grew weary of not doing anything. And forth it charged."
- Slovo o Bakoslave.

 

[das]

Btw, Vlad Zabav="Vlad of Fun Activities".

 

[Azale]

it is the iron age, so yes, it is

the Byzantine buil the Hagia sophia (looks ot be base picture) without the help of all the old Roman engineering tricks, other then utilizing the Dome and arch, and since those artn exactley hard concepts to master, such a wonder is more the possible.

the religion thing seems a bit out of step, particuraley touting it to be "proto christianity", but thats none of my buisness what his people belive in

well, its very proto-christianity. As in, it has semblances of Christianity, but its alot more vague and doesnt have the same kind of proof behind it. I still havnt thought of a proper name for it. Still, for now, its pretty nice compared to animism and polytheism. As time grows, hopefully the legend becomes more believed and more set in stone as truth. Atleast thats the goal

 

[Azale]

AAAGH, its that forsaken sites fault! Russian last names my *european word* arse!

if you can, great das, bestow a more proper name to my Holy King. Fun activities could be interpreted in many ways....

 

[Heine]

Then it's ok.

Orders:
Increase Economy throught tradeing with Normans and Britains
Send over 250 Spearmen and 250 Archers to Scotland to help Britain get control of it.
Assume control of the island give over by Britain with 100 Spearmen, then send them and the ships to explore and colonize new islands.
Expand Baltic colony with 500 Spearmen
Contiue pressing against Viking Tribes with rest of troops.