das
Regeneration In Process
Don't worry, Jason, its a great update! I forgive the awful suckness only due to the fact that you let me win.
stJNES5.1: From the Beginning
- Thread starter Jason The King
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das
Regeneration In Process
OOC: The Hittites probably decided that bordering a gratious Assyria is better then bordering a potentially-hostile Persia. Not to mention that Persia was clearly stronger then Assyria - and having weak neighbours is much better then having strong ones.
IC:
From: Magadha
To: Gujarat
Well? Will you surrender now, peacefully, without further bloodshed and suffering? If you surrender now, I shall grant you all mercy.
IC:
From: Magadha
To: Gujarat
Well? Will you surrender now, peacefully, without further bloodshed and suffering? If you surrender now, I shall grant you all mercy.
Jason The King
Deity
Thomander: The Hittites did have a bond with the Assyrians, a signed alliance. They used deception that they were going to help you so that they could surprise and take lots of land...like they did.
To Assyria
From Hittites
We ask for a small coastland strip along the Caspian to connect with our growing Persian holdings.
Sheep2 said:
To Assyria
From Hittites
We ask for a small coastland strip along the Caspian to connect with our growing Persian holdings.
Jason The King
Deity
lol, I like Das's explanation more then mine 
To Magadha
From Gujarat
If you allow us our native lands, the ones we now occupy, we shall sign a permanent alliance with you and our king will swear allegience to you (ie become your vassal).
To Magadha
From Gujarat
If you allow us our native lands, the ones we now occupy, we shall sign a permanent alliance with you and our king will swear allegience to you (ie become your vassal).
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
To Hitties.
We will give you the Eastern most city and the land to the East of that. However we ask for 1 eco point for this strategic port. Is this acceptable? Either that or we could send Sionist clergy into your lands.
We will give you the Eastern most city and the land to the East of that. However we ask for 1 eco point for this strategic port. Is this acceptable? Either that or we could send Sionist clergy into your lands.
Jason The King
Deity
To Assyria
From Hittites
We will pay you the SP at a later date.
From Hittites
We will pay you the SP at a later date.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
To Hitties
From Assyria we understand and do know that you enjoy a Rights of Passage as I do for your lands.
ooc: What is the respoonse of Sumer and Judea?
From Assyria we understand and do know that you enjoy a Rights of Passage as I do for your lands.
ooc: What is the respoonse of Sumer and Judea?
das
Regeneration In Process
From: Magadha
To: Gujarat
The ones you now occupy? Your people will be allowed to settle there, and will be granted a fairly autonomous status within the Magadhan Empire, if that is what you mean.
To: Gujarat
The ones you now occupy? Your people will be allowed to settle there, and will be granted a fairly autonomous status within the Magadhan Empire, if that is what you mean.
TNG
Sad, sad little man
To Arabia
From Saba: Our leaders sense a mounting threat near our region, we have heard, from the Egyptians, that they are talking about signing a peace deal with Antigot, giving them a foothold onto our region. We do not want to held under the thumb of the Antigotians, so we ask for an alliance with Arabia, if not we implore you to sign a non-aggression pact at minimum. If you join our alliance, we will be forever grateful. However, it is recommended that you send troops to Egypt to stop their evisceration.
To Egypt
From Saba: Keep right on fighting friends. Antigotians have invaded your country, destroyed much of what you owned, for what? You have done nothing wrong in our eyes and, surely, in the eyes of the world. We will welcome any and all refugees that wish to stay in our fair land. We will also provide all the aid we can if that is what you request. It is imperative that you must not lose this war. Antigot has gained far too much. Join our alliance, we have already asked a few nations to come to your aid.
To the Nabats: We humbly ask for your help, there is a huge threat that will be arriving at your doorstep and it will not hesitate in the blink of an eye to invade you. Please, send some men to Egypt. For it falls, Antigot will be quick to eviscerate all of us; Arabia, Saba, even the Nabat nation cannot keep their own against them, because of this we must rise up a throw off even any possible threat to our nations. We welcome you to join a new alliance with Arabia, Saba, and Egypt to thwart Antigotian dominance in the Red Sea.
To the Hittites and Assyrians: We would like for both of your nations to sign an NAP with our potential alliance (the Nabats, Arabia, Egypt, and Saba) and maybe join our it if possible? If your peoples cannot join the alliance then that will be acceptable, as you both are fighting a war, but a NAP should certainly not be nearly as outrageous.
To Antigot: How hypocritical are you?! First you crash the economy of our allies the Egyptians and then, you invade them? Your leaders must be the most vile bastards on the face of our planet. OOC: Just talking in character, not meant to offend Erez or anyone else for that matter, especially Erez.
To Ku****e king: Join our nation, we will not kill you, but give your nation a chance to be part of something bigger: a confederation of nations that allow both Kush and Saba to live long in prosper. You rejected our first proposal, but considering that your populace is so unhappy, why not just let the people have what they want and join our nation. Your rejection has cost the lives of many. We did not start a rebellion, but merely helped those that care about their country enough to join our confederacy.
To <insert name of the purple nation south of us here>: Join our confederacy, we will give you all equal representation and help both of our countries as a whole. Please, violence will only take innocent lives.
To all nations against Antigot: Keep on fighting, your fight is the righteous one and will keep Antigot from enslaving your people and burning your cities.
From Saba: Our leaders sense a mounting threat near our region, we have heard, from the Egyptians, that they are talking about signing a peace deal with Antigot, giving them a foothold onto our region. We do not want to held under the thumb of the Antigotians, so we ask for an alliance with Arabia, if not we implore you to sign a non-aggression pact at minimum. If you join our alliance, we will be forever grateful. However, it is recommended that you send troops to Egypt to stop their evisceration.
To Egypt
From Saba: Keep right on fighting friends. Antigotians have invaded your country, destroyed much of what you owned, for what? You have done nothing wrong in our eyes and, surely, in the eyes of the world. We will welcome any and all refugees that wish to stay in our fair land. We will also provide all the aid we can if that is what you request. It is imperative that you must not lose this war. Antigot has gained far too much. Join our alliance, we have already asked a few nations to come to your aid.
To the Nabats: We humbly ask for your help, there is a huge threat that will be arriving at your doorstep and it will not hesitate in the blink of an eye to invade you. Please, send some men to Egypt. For it falls, Antigot will be quick to eviscerate all of us; Arabia, Saba, even the Nabat nation cannot keep their own against them, because of this we must rise up a throw off even any possible threat to our nations. We welcome you to join a new alliance with Arabia, Saba, and Egypt to thwart Antigotian dominance in the Red Sea.
To the Hittites and Assyrians: We would like for both of your nations to sign an NAP with our potential alliance (the Nabats, Arabia, Egypt, and Saba) and maybe join our it if possible? If your peoples cannot join the alliance then that will be acceptable, as you both are fighting a war, but a NAP should certainly not be nearly as outrageous.
To Antigot: How hypocritical are you?! First you crash the economy of our allies the Egyptians and then, you invade them? Your leaders must be the most vile bastards on the face of our planet. OOC: Just talking in character, not meant to offend Erez or anyone else for that matter, especially Erez.
To Ku****e king: Join our nation, we will not kill you, but give your nation a chance to be part of something bigger: a confederation of nations that allow both Kush and Saba to live long in prosper. You rejected our first proposal, but considering that your populace is so unhappy, why not just let the people have what they want and join our nation. Your rejection has cost the lives of many. We did not start a rebellion, but merely helped those that care about their country enough to join our confederacy.
To <insert name of the purple nation south of us here>: Join our confederacy, we will give you all equal representation and help both of our countries as a whole. Please, violence will only take innocent lives.
To all nations against Antigot: Keep on fighting, your fight is the righteous one and will keep Antigot from enslaving your people and burning your cities.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
To Saba
From Assyria
As Egypt invaded the evil Judeans and were thus invaded from these western devils, then we must if NOT WILL join your alliance! We look forward to assitance against the Persians, Judeans and Sumerians!
From Assyria
As Egypt invaded the evil Judeans and were thus invaded from these western devils, then we must if NOT WILL join your alliance! We look forward to assitance against the Persians, Judeans and Sumerians!
TNG
Sad, sad little man
To Assyria
From Saba: Thank you, your fight is a righteous one, we have already allowed Antigot too much by letting them destroy the East Mediterranean trade route. As for the Persians, Judeans, and Sumerians, we have no personal qualms against them currently. However, if an ally calls for us we will be there; but please try to understand that the main reason is to repel the Antigotians, and we will be also expecting assistance. Any other takers?
From Saba: Thank you, your fight is a righteous one, we have already allowed Antigot too much by letting them destroy the East Mediterranean trade route. As for the Persians, Judeans, and Sumerians, we have no personal qualms against them currently. However, if an ally calls for us we will be there; but please try to understand that the main reason is to repel the Antigotians, and we will be also expecting assistance. Any other takers?
Jason The King
Deity
To Saba
From Kush
We will fight until you are out of our lands!
To Saba
From Nabats
We will join any alliance that is anti-Egypt. What shall it be called? Pact of the Red Sea?
To Saba
From Hittites
We are already allied to one nation. We do not wish for others.
From Kush
We will fight until you are out of our lands!
To Saba
From Nabats
We will join any alliance that is anti-Egypt. What shall it be called? Pact of the Red Sea?
To Saba
From Hittites
We are already allied to one nation. We do not wish for others.
TNG
Sad, sad little man
SABA
To Kush: So be it, but know this: your people will not be suppressed by some tired old tyrant who is afraid of prosperity.
To Nabats (secret): Hmm...Well it's actually against Antigot, but if you sign the alliance, all land that your troops gain from Antigot in Egypt you may keep.
To Hittites: We also allied to the Assyrians, so why not make expand the alliance? The more the merrier, is it not? It's actually only a formality, as it is nonsense to be allied to the same nation but not to one another. Besides, you do not want to be invaded by Antigot and be supported by and ally that has to deal with an internal rebellion and a war with the Jews and Persians do you?
To Kush: So be it, but know this: your people will not be suppressed by some tired old tyrant who is afraid of prosperity.
To Nabats (secret): Hmm...Well it's actually against Antigot, but if you sign the alliance, all land that your troops gain from Antigot in Egypt you may keep.
To Hittites: We also allied to the Assyrians, so why not make expand the alliance? The more the merrier, is it not? It's actually only a formality, as it is nonsense to be allied to the same nation but not to one another. Besides, you do not want to be invaded by Antigot and be supported by and ally that has to deal with an internal rebellion and a war with the Jews and Persians do you?
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
To Saba
From Assyria
Then your proffessed friendship is only skin-deep? Assyria will choose not to enter such a narrow minded alliance!
From Assyria
Then your proffessed friendship is only skin-deep? Assyria will choose not to enter such a narrow minded alliance!
erez87
Lord of Random
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to Egypt:
Is our peace deal still intact or did the idiotic Saba's given you some other ideas?
to Saba:
Who are you anyway? Egypt have signed peace already with Antigot. Now know that if you will indeed attack out new holdings in southern Egypt THAN we shall bring our mighty armies to fight you and destory you.
to Kush:
It seems we both have problems with Saba... Interested in some regular trade and a defensive alliance?
Is our peace deal still intact or did the idiotic Saba's given you some other ideas?
to Saba:
Who are you anyway? Egypt have signed peace already with Antigot. Now know that if you will indeed attack out new holdings in southern Egypt THAN we shall bring our mighty armies to fight you and destory you.
to Kush:
It seems we both have problems with Saba... Interested in some regular trade and a defensive alliance?
ThomAnder
Deity
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If you were the ruler of Hittite, would you continue to ally yourself with a nation that have made it its task to conquer each of its other neighbour, who will potentially turn onto you, or a nation that has come to the aid of one of the victims? Profit-wise doesn't it make much more sense to ensure their own security as well as gaining lots of land close to them? There is little sense for them to hold land this far out. Look at Judea and Mittani, according to your reason then why would they help me? it's obviously much more profitable for them to help me than assyria. I'm getting really confused as to how to do diplos with NPC nations when it's not based on profit anymore. As i already mentioned it's not about honour if the Hittites can deceive and backstab other nations like that.
das
Regeneration In Process
Jason, what do the Gujaratis reply?
das
Regeneration In Process
I would ally with the former as it is at the moment weaker. Not to mention that, as said, it is a traditional ally. Backing the weak over the strong was a traditional British policy, btw. The Hittites will be selling Opium to people next. And then will grant all their colonies Dominion status.
But, again, its British policy. It makes much more sense to make sure that Assyria - which is weakened by the war and doesn't look very well-off - defeats Persia, a clearly-stronger power. Not to mention that an Assyrian conquest of Persia is, in the mind of the Hittites, going to result in Assyria a) being tasked with holding on to large lands and b) being "set" on an eastward expansion course, if only by the inertia of an eastwards conquest, as opposed to Persia conquering westwards - into Hittite lands.
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