STR-03 Viking Traders

[Strauss]

I already played, but my internet's acting like it's a dial-up, and I can't upload pictures. I don't want to send out a report without some pictures, so you'll have to wait till tomorrow.

By the way, did no-one notice it's Pvblivs' birthday? He's become 27 today!

Congratulations

 

[angeleyes]

 

[Pvblivs]

Correct. Play on guys. Amazing that there's still no AI that tried to build a free technology...

 

[Bede]

Happy birthday , youthful one!

I wouldn't hestitate to whip in the Temple then head straight for the Great Lighthouse at Uppsala. The capitol should have a Granary, then a Barracks. The other two coastal towns should be working on boats for the fishy in the sea and for exploring the coastlines. And if we don't have sailing that should come next in the research path as it will open the coastal trade routes, IIRC.

Otherwise I like where we stand though not trying for the Oracle bothers me a little but not enough to say anything.....

 

[Pvblivs]

Thank you, guys. Finally I'm some kind of young but I feel as old as you

Had a great time with my friends yesterday evening. And this weekend is a surprise of my girlfriend. So I'm just gonna drive where she tells me and we'll be having a great time till sunday.

After work today

 

[angeleyes]

Otherwise I like where we stand though not trying for the Oracle bothers me a little but not enough to say anything.....

You just said something....

 

[Strauss]

Sorry, but my internet still isn't working properly so I couldn't upload any pictures. Things should be clear enough though at this stage.

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IT (700 BC): I micromanage Uppsala to shave 8 turns off the Temple of Artemis and 1 turn off Sailing.

Turn 4 (640 BC): Bjørgvin is founded on Asperger's #4 'dot'.

Turn 7 (595 BC): Sailing comes in, start on Writing.

Turn 10 (550 BC): Mansa Musa FINALLY builds the Oracle.... We could have built it like 7 turns earlier. We should come up with a suitable punishment for karr1255

T13 (505 BC): Tokugawa converts to Buddhism. Now we're all one happy family!

Turn 15 (475 BC): End of my reign

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I'm sorry Pvblivs, but I think we will eventually have to go to war with Mansa. He's already 100 points ahead of us, and now that he's grabbed the Oracle he probably will become a runaway again. Aside from that, as karr1255 mentioned, we don't want to stay on our tiny peninsula forever with only 5 cities. This isn't RB25! We will have to cut Mansa down to size eventually. When we do, I suggest to leave his northern city/cities unharmed and make him our vassal to act as a buffer against Tokugawa.

 

[Strauss]

Okay, I forgot that if I can't upload pictures I can't upload saves either . It's too late now, but if it doesn't work tomorrow morning I'll just transfer the save to another pc.

 

[Strauss]

Here it is at last:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/78327/STR-03_BC-0475.CivWarlordsSave

 

[karr1255]

Got it and I wil play later tonight.

 

[karr1255]

T1 - Writing in and i start on alphabet(-> literature?)

T3 - Toku demands to cancel our deals with the Mali. I agree since war with Mansa is on our to do list. And that §$%$% Toku doesn't even give us +1 for the agreement, while Mansa refuses to talk now.

T4 - We complete the Temple of Artemis!

T5-9 - Nothing really happens. I just continue to build axes

T10 - Out borders push Mansas further away. This city will be easy to take.

T11-15 - More axemen building.

I mostly build a bunch of axes and positioned them in Uppsala. Also note that the first 3 mali cities we would encounter, including the capitol, are coastal.

 

[Bede]

Looks like it is back in my hands. War with Mansa should make a nice diversion.

Metalcasting and The Colussus the other priorities.

 

[Bede]

What can I say, Mansa is a wuss.

Here is where I started

And here is where I ended

With this stop in between

Learned Alphabet then fiddled around with the research path and finally landed on Monotheism for the Organized Religion bonus. May be able to pick it up in trade after capturing Mansa's capital. Metal Casting is way too far off for right now.

Swapped in and out of building the Great Lighthouse and axes at Uppsala depending on what was needed at the time. The Great Lighthouse will actually be a greater longer term benefit for us than the Colussus anyway so I would whip it in just as soon we can. Uppsala is already pulling +5gt from a trade route with India, so the GreatLight will only help that and all the way into the Modern Era.

Got the library into the little burg with all the fishies, at the cost of unhappy people, but there is so much food there that you can whip it down to two working citizens and still grow like a weed with room for more whipping.

Every place else with barracks alteranted between an axe and a library or other appropriate building. Trading Posts are way powerful for the Viking BTW as they add XP to boats. (Bede loves boats).

Not sure if there is enough muscle at the gates of Timbuktu to really finish the job, as the ratio of kills is about 3-2 in our favor and he will have 5 defenders in the city and we will only have six ready to attack on the next turn or so. May want to wait for reinforcements to make their way. I would have sent some by sea, but there is only one trireme currently available and she is doing blockade duty at Timbuktu. Mansa has one more city in the fog SE of Timbuktu which may not be worth the aggro to capture, and there is barbarian city due east that may be worth the candle though.

Much fun this match up, even if Mansa is a slightly less than worthy opponent.

 

[angeleyes]

'This image or video has been moved or deleted '.

is what i get in stead of images from Bede ? Is this my computer or has everybody else this ?

 

[angeleyes]

Have a look at the save: our finance level is at 20 % That's very low already. Timbuktu needs at least twice more attackers than defenders to conquer. I would stop whipping our fish city , give it two scientists and when we get currency (market) give it also two merchants.

 

[Strauss]

Roster:
1) Strauss
2) Pvblivs --> skipped until Monday
3) karr1255
4) Bede --> just played
5) Asperger --> UP!

Asperger, if you can play today you should take it, and then Pvblivs will take it after you. After that we'll go back to the regular roster.

 

[Pvblivs]

Hey guys. I'm back! Could play if you'd let me

 

[Strauss]

Welcome back Pvblivs, hope you had a nice birthday weekend. Go ahead and play.

 

[Pvblivs]

I had! I've never been to a four star hotel (at least in Germany) with a stars cook. It was a great weekend. My girl knows how to surprise me, simply have to say this. Though she might lack some money know

This is a "got it".

 

[Pvblivs]

25 BC (0): I cancel the Galley at Bjordvin. It could never leave our waters south. Did you notice the glaciers? Starting barracks instead. Increasing science rate to 100%.

10 BC (1): Great Lighthouse BIDL Timbuktu now has 5 defenders, one north, one south (on the rice). I decide to pillage the rice to slow down Timbuktu but realize that we won't take it with the knowledge we have. Promoting an axe two cover and loosing it at 66%. Cleaing up with two other that are sent out to harrass. Rest is going southeast.

5 (2): St. Patrick is born in Uppsala. Send him to Nidaros to settle and generate money and hammers.

20 (3): Monotheism is in. Going for IW.

35 (4): As Timbuktus borders expand, Kumbi Saleh becomes completely worthless. Timbuktus defense is now at 60% and 7 Skirmishers defend it. That's too much for our axes. We'll come back later.

50 (5): Discover Gao, that is defended by three Skirmishers at 20%.

Btw. Did you know that cover is more useful against archers attacking and defending at 30% that city garrison (25%)? Just wanted you to know and to promote accordingly as long as we dealwith archers mainly as we've got some CR but no cover promotions yet

65 (6): Mansa offers peace for archery. No.

95 (8): Asoka captures Teoihuacan. We loose 3 axes at Gao and kill 2 skirmishers.

110 (9): Pyramids BIDL. Another skirmisher is killed in Gao and we raze it, capuring some 60 or 70 gold and 2 workers.

125 (10): The Parthenon is BIDL. Intersting: Timbuktu is now only defended by 2 skirmishers. Since I left the cities Mansa has drawn those troops elsewhere.

The rest of my turn I spent healing troops and finally converging 11 axemen to Timbuktu. Asperger should be able to take Timbuktu in the next 2 or 3 turns (arriving in 1). He has to care that 3 skirmishers from the east will not reach Timbuktu before it is captured. And it is to be expected that another 2 to 3 skirmishers are put into Timbuktu before we can attack. So do anything you can to hold off those 3 or we won't capture it.

Once we've captured Timbuktu, I would expect Mansa to capitulate, but he can't, since we didn't research Feudalism yet. And this is needed for vassalage. So I would suggest to simply make peace for a technology and force Mansa into Capitulation or eliminate him later.

Then it should be time for heavy trading as, you know, we're traders after all

Bring Mansa Musa down!