ShahJahanII
Homesick Alien
Any reason why I get an error when I click on the link in the OP?
It worked a long while back for me.
It worked a long while back for me.
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duckstab
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The wiki's been ailing for a while. Fortunately, there are recent snapshots available in the Internet Archive.
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ShahJahanII
Homesick Alien
Thanks!
samarghata
Chieftain
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I have a problem. Cannot I expand to quickly with regime civics, or need to settle more more cities in core area to boost economy ?? Or what?
Playing Rome on easy, I achieved UHV. Conquered Carth, FR, SP, Gre, EG. Vassalised UK, Germ, RUS, VIK. I collapsed in medieval times, but managed to recover quickly, abut now I collapsed second time while conquering Turkey Arabia, US and portugal. I was doing it sloooowly, checking stability every turn. I just switched from free market after I was striken by depression. I had Representation, Caste, Free Speech, FreeMarket and Pacifism with Viceroyality. Then before last US-POrt-Arabia conquest i switched to regime civics including Occupation with emmanc and Free religion. I conquered few cities but my expansion was getting to -100 or sth, economy =, rest = and pffffffffff So.... how to launch a fakin rocket when my tanks are now in Washington dc and Lisboa under their command and I have no army at all. Hopefully vassals are happy. I wannna restart from one turn before civic switch save.
Playing Rome on easy, I achieved UHV. Conquered Carth, FR, SP, Gre, EG. Vassalised UK, Germ, RUS, VIK. I collapsed in medieval times, but managed to recover quickly, abut now I collapsed second time while conquering Turkey Arabia, US and portugal. I was doing it sloooowly, checking stability every turn. I just switched from free market after I was striken by depression. I had Representation, Caste, Free Speech, FreeMarket and Pacifism with Viceroyality. Then before last US-POrt-Arabia conquest i switched to regime civics including Occupation with emmanc and Free religion. I conquered few cities but my expansion was getting to -100 or sth, economy =, rest = and pffffffffff So.... how to launch a fakin rocket when my tanks are now in Washington dc and Lisboa under their command and I have no army at all. Hopefully vassals are happy. I wannna restart from one turn before civic switch save.
samarghata
Chieftain
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A plenty of them.
I think that my conquest city/ turn was too high. Despite of occupation there might be something else destabilising my civilisation.
samarghata
Chieftain
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OK, I managed to replay peacefully with free market. But I don;t know how to shorten market depression time.
Should I stop city growth and switch from production tiles to crop/wealth (takes a lot of micro) tiles or is it only necessary to start producing wealth/science/culture in cities?
Should I stop city growth and switch from production tiles to crop/wealth (takes a lot of micro) tiles or is it only necessary to start producing wealth/science/culture in cities?
From my experience you can easily ruin your economy (stability) in few decades / centuries if you are switching between building of research/wealth and production; you have to do this carefully; first build everything you need, then if you have some cities with not really good production you can use them as support cities - building only wealth or research permanently - combine with stock exchange (for wealth) and channel tunnel and academy (for research). (Also this is checked only in each 3rd round, so you can avoid the economy ruining switch only for not 3rd round (just use calculator), but for the other two, then switch for one turn back to production.)
Avoiding depression is hard, sometimes even harder
you have to manage steadily growing in both production and wealth (proportionally if possible). Once you get on rid of it, it's not so hard.
If you have Cristo Redentor you can switch economy civics without anarchy, so you can switch to let's say mercantilism to disable depression (correct me if i'm wrong), and after few turns back - hower i usually go with one or two depressions (let's say until 2000).
Avoiding depression is hard, sometimes even harder
you have to manage steadily growing in both production and wealth (proportionally if possible). Once you get on rid of it, it's not so hard.If you have Cristo Redentor you can switch economy civics without anarchy, so you can switch to let's say mercantilism to disable depression (correct me if i'm wrong), and after few turns back - hower i usually go with one or two depressions (let's say until 2000).
So I decided to play as the Russians, and I'm doing pretty good for the first time playing as them. Until I saw the 2nd goal: Colonize Siberia (7 cities) by 1700. Where should I place those Siberian cities, and should I give the cities away after 1700 ('cause I think they will drain my economy). Any suggestions?
blizzrd
Micromanager
The best sites in Siberia are amongst the large group of forested grassland hills, located roughly NW of the Mongolia capital. If you can get windmills on all of those hills, a city or two in this part of Siberia can be really productive.
But basically 7 extra cities in Siberia will be a drain on your economy, for every city beyond your 10th overall. For this reason, I usually gift most of the cities in Siberia to Mongolia or anyone else who will accept them.
But basically 7 extra cities in Siberia will be a drain on your economy, for every city beyond your 10th overall. For this reason, I usually gift most of the cities in Siberia to Mongolia or anyone else who will accept them.
In my game I had built my 7 cities in 1695 and the second requirement for the UHV was completed. After that I gave all those cities to other civs in 1700. I thought it would't harm my economy much since I only had the cities for 1 turn. But it made my stability went down and I collapsed around 1730. I managed to get all my cities back but one, but they had lost all their buildings and the population was 97% independent 
Can anyone give me some advice how to avoid a bad stability and have a good economy while playing as Russia?
Can anyone give me some advice how to avoid a bad stability and have a good economy while playing as Russia?
blizzrd
Micromanager
Build cottages on every grassland tile and windmills on every hill, never farms or mines. Mines should only be build on resources.
You don't need to hold the cities in 1700AD, you just have to build them before 1700AD. So build them and instantly give them away. All of them, at the same time. There will be a temporary dip in your stability when you give them away. But your golden age should balance this out.
After your golden age finishes is the tougher situation. You need to do something else to improve your stability at this time. Such as settle another city somewhere in European Russia (your core area) or build some wonders or win some battles.
You don't need to hold the cities in 1700AD, you just have to build them before 1700AD. So build them and instantly give them away. All of them, at the same time. There will be a temporary dip in your stability when you give them away. But your golden age should balance this out.
After your golden age finishes is the tougher situation. You need to do something else to improve your stability at this time. Such as settle another city somewhere in European Russia (your core area) or build some wonders or win some battles.
Akbarthegreat
Angel of Junil
I presume Zaanzie is playing on viceroy (his first time), and if so, I don't think giving them away are necessary. I managed my Russia VC game with all of those cities, since they become powerhouses with SP and watermills. Although I had to spam cottages like hell.
Guys this is a random place to post but a very useful tip if you haven't realized it yet. It's for arabia.
To not get gimped, you need to switch civics/religion carefully the first turns. First switch 2 civics, like get slavery and hereditary rule. Now switch to islam on the second turn. Now on the third turn when Sana, Jerusalem etc flip, they will get islam with temples and mosques! This doesn't work if islam isn't your state religion on turn 3, so you can't switch to all civics on the first turn as usual.
Also another general important piece of strategy is to know that ANY civ will open borders if you are at war with a common foe. This means Arabia and the Vikings will be your prime diplomatic war targets, as most of Europe usually starts out at war with them, lets say you are confucianist china and all the europeans hate you, this way you can still open borders. Useful to keep in mind the whole game because it can let you open borders even with arabia, turkey, japan etc if you just declare proxy wars on khmer or babylon when it benefits you.
To not get gimped, you need to switch civics/religion carefully the first turns. First switch 2 civics, like get slavery and hereditary rule. Now switch to islam on the second turn. Now on the third turn when Sana, Jerusalem etc flip, they will get islam with temples and mosques! This doesn't work if islam isn't your state religion on turn 3, so you can't switch to all civics on the first turn as usual.
Also another general important piece of strategy is to know that ANY civ will open borders if you are at war with a common foe. This means Arabia and the Vikings will be your prime diplomatic war targets, as most of Europe usually starts out at war with them, lets say you are confucianist china and all the europeans hate you, this way you can still open borders. Useful to keep in mind the whole game because it can let you open borders even with arabia, turkey, japan etc if you just declare proxy wars on khmer or babylon when it benefits you.
rogue131
Byzantine Historian
since it appears we're talking RFC and DoC, @Leoreth...what exactly does Westminster palace do?
rogue131
Byzantine Historian
ahhh, ok, just curious
adhiraj.bose
Deity
I've been trying different approaches to domination with different civs trying to follow the strategy guide recommendations for expansion. So far I've managed domination with only two civs on Viceroy with RFC vanilla *( BTS version is updated to 3.19 ), Russia and Arabia. All around 1880-1890. I managed diplo victories earlier with France and Arabia. Since then I tried working out India, Japan, England and Spain for domination and Rome. But without success. What killed me off with India, Spain and Japan was stability and in Spain's case lack of vassals ... . With Arabia it was easy, in fact I think I would have won it sooner if I started settlements across the Americas after conquering Iberia and vassalizing the Aztec and Inca. But I do remember failing once even with the Arabs *( and their vast stability area ) . With Rome and England I got stuck after the late 19th century. With England I was conquering till about 1940, but couldn't get more than 24.6% at my peak. Same with Japan, only I didnt conquer much. India collapsed by the mid 18th century because of a weak economy. I want to know if there's a generic strategy for getting a domination victory and whether only some civs are predisposed for a domination victory, because it certainly seemed that way when comparing the different civs. The main reason I tried India was because of suggestions earlier about the advantages of Cristo Redentor, since India basically starts out with that advantage, and because it has the Mausoleum UB I thought this would be the ideal imperialistic civ ! Alas, it's horrible land pulls it down. Any suggestions to play India with different victory scenarios would be welcome, because honestly the UHV for INdia is a drag.
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