stXNES1; the freshmaker
- Thread starter Xen
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conehead234
Braves on the Warpath
Do I have to PM my orders now. I already posted them.
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
About Wu's UU, can it travel in ocean areas as well?
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
@would Taiwan be considered along the Coast line?
Amenhotep7
Spartiate
Orders:
Start trade w/ Alans
Spend one economy on UUs
SECRET(Except to my allies, whom wouldn't object)
To Alans
From Eastern Roman Empire
We need to secure ourselves in Far Eastern Europe. I say we devise a plan to conquer the Roxolani and Ostrogoths.
Start trade w/ Alans
Spend one economy on UUs
SECRET(Except to my allies, whom wouldn't object)
To Alans
From Eastern Roman Empire
We need to secure ourselves in Far Eastern Europe. I say we devise a plan to conquer the Roxolani and Ostrogoths.
okay, stats slated to hopefulyl coem up today- Roxoliani, N.Saka, possibly create and Indonesian nation, Aremenia will come up, and perhaps a few random guys, unless thier are any other requests, all in all expect between 5 and 7 nations up as NPC soon, hopefully today
das
Regeneration In Process
OOC: Hurray! It started at last! Sorry for failing to send orders last turn - darn bloody connection.
IC:
Mid-4th Century AD. Julius the Apostate rules in the Western Roman Empire, Constantine II – in the Eastern Roman Empire. Numerous barbaric tribes live more-or-less peacefully on Rome’s borders.
Let us look on one these tribes, on the tribe of Visigoths. They are divided between two factions, two powerful leaders – Fretigern, or Frithugairns ( “desiring-peace” ) and Athanaric, or Athanareiks ( “king-for-the-year” ). It is also divided between old Pagan beliefs and the Arianist Christianity. And rumors come that Huns are coming from the east.
In our world, the Visigoths lived peacefully until the Huns attacked and overrun Ostrogoths, and threatened Visigoths as well, and the names of the two leaders were more or less correct – Fretigern, desiring peace (which was OBVIOUSLY not something one would get if he stays in the way of the Huns), crossed Danube. Athanaric followed. The Visigoths settled in Byzantine territory. After a famine in 377, Visigoths had no choice but to attack the Byzantines. Against all odds, Visigoths won in the Battle of Adrianople, and were, by the following treaty (signed by king Athanaric, who, true to name, ruled for only a year after Fretigern’s death), granted federate nation status.
Now, we shall ask the question “What If?”. What if the Visigoths have not lived so peacefully until the Hun invasion?
Allow us to speculate. These times were the beginning of the Dark Age. Wars started for the reasons of honor, meaning for what ever reason that could appear, based on the mood of kings and emperors. Words said on a tribal tag after drinking lots of beer might inspire a ruler to start on a rampage.
Suppose some random Visigoth – let us name him Rekagarth – has suggested on such a meeting that Fretigern unites all of the Goths. Suppose that Fretigern was just as drunk as Rekagarth, and gladly agreed, and perhaps also promised to conquer the world. And to find an elixir to turn water into beer. On the morning, everyone forgot about conquering the world and about finding that elixir, but all remembered about Fretigern’s oath to unite the Goths. Here was a predicament. Fretigern had no choice but to try his best at fulfilling that oath...
Diplomacy:
From: Visigoths
To: Ostrogoths
We share the same language, the same beliefs, the same culture. We also share the same world, in which noone is entirely safe. We heard rumors of Huns to the east – no doubt you heard just the same. In short, here is my proposal – we will unite again into one tribe, one kingdom, the Goths, and all the nobles will gather to choose one king, whether Ostrogoth or Visigoth. Please, notice the merit of our offer.
Orders (editted):
-Raise 1000 more Warband.
-Use our bonus to get 400 more UU.
-Try to find out what terrain there is in the new Gothic Kingdom.
-Merge with Ostrogoths, grant them a federate nation in 4/5 of their territory, the other 1/5 is to be a part of our kingdom. That 1/5 is the former Ostrogoth border area and a small bit of land slightly to the east from there.
-Try to avoid making any more drunken oaths.
Sorry about the late orders.
IC:
Mid-4th Century AD. Julius the Apostate rules in the Western Roman Empire, Constantine II – in the Eastern Roman Empire. Numerous barbaric tribes live more-or-less peacefully on Rome’s borders.
Let us look on one these tribes, on the tribe of Visigoths. They are divided between two factions, two powerful leaders – Fretigern, or Frithugairns ( “desiring-peace” ) and Athanaric, or Athanareiks ( “king-for-the-year” ). It is also divided between old Pagan beliefs and the Arianist Christianity. And rumors come that Huns are coming from the east.
In our world, the Visigoths lived peacefully until the Huns attacked and overrun Ostrogoths, and threatened Visigoths as well, and the names of the two leaders were more or less correct – Fretigern, desiring peace (which was OBVIOUSLY not something one would get if he stays in the way of the Huns), crossed Danube. Athanaric followed. The Visigoths settled in Byzantine territory. After a famine in 377, Visigoths had no choice but to attack the Byzantines. Against all odds, Visigoths won in the Battle of Adrianople, and were, by the following treaty (signed by king Athanaric, who, true to name, ruled for only a year after Fretigern’s death), granted federate nation status.
Now, we shall ask the question “What If?”. What if the Visigoths have not lived so peacefully until the Hun invasion?
Allow us to speculate. These times were the beginning of the Dark Age. Wars started for the reasons of honor, meaning for what ever reason that could appear, based on the mood of kings and emperors. Words said on a tribal tag after drinking lots of beer might inspire a ruler to start on a rampage.
Suppose some random Visigoth – let us name him Rekagarth – has suggested on such a meeting that Fretigern unites all of the Goths. Suppose that Fretigern was just as drunk as Rekagarth, and gladly agreed, and perhaps also promised to conquer the world. And to find an elixir to turn water into beer. On the morning, everyone forgot about conquering the world and about finding that elixir, but all remembered about Fretigern’s oath to unite the Goths. Here was a predicament. Fretigern had no choice but to try his best at fulfilling that oath...
Diplomacy:
From: Visigoths
To: Ostrogoths
We share the same language, the same beliefs, the same culture. We also share the same world, in which noone is entirely safe. We heard rumors of Huns to the east – no doubt you heard just the same. In short, here is my proposal – we will unite again into one tribe, one kingdom, the Goths, and all the nobles will gather to choose one king, whether Ostrogoth or Visigoth. Please, notice the merit of our offer.
Orders (editted):
-Raise 1000 more Warband.
-Use our bonus to get 400 more UU.
-Try to find out what terrain there is in the new Gothic Kingdom.
-Merge with Ostrogoths, grant them a federate nation in 4/5 of their territory, the other 1/5 is to be a part of our kingdom. That 1/5 is the former Ostrogoth border area and a small bit of land slightly to the east from there.
-Try to avoid making any more drunken oaths.
Sorry about the late orders.
To: Visigoths
From: Ostrogoths
we greet you in peace, and as brothers, abd thank you for that drink
. We have looked at your proposal with mixed feelings- on one hand, you are right- it is a dangerous world, and thier are many peoples to the east whos powers are growing- however- I, an dmy nobels do not wish to give up te power that we have currentlly, and the means at out command to search the earth for the elixer of beer
we would be willing to join in a full on alliance, similer to what the Romans to our south are ingageing in, btu we do not wish to give up our nation, at least not currentlly.
From: Ostrogoths
we greet you in peace, and as brothers, abd thank you for that drink
. We have looked at your proposal with mixed feelings- on one hand, you are right- it is a dangerous world, and thier are many peoples to the east whos powers are growing- however- I, an dmy nobels do not wish to give up te power that we have currentlly, and the means at out command to search the earth for the elixer of beer we would be willing to join in a full on alliance, similer to what the Romans to our south are ingageing in, btu we do not wish to give up our nation, at least not currentlly.
das
Regeneration In Process
From: Visigoths
To: Ostrogoths
It is not necessary that you give up your power! We will merge, and the nobles will choose a king to rule the united Goths - perhaps you, perhaps me. Or maybe there shall be two kings to rule one kingship, like it often happens - all will keep their powers, and both tribes will become stronger together. What about it?
As for the proposal of the alliance, we will have to think about it.
To: Ostrogoths
It is not necessary that you give up your power! We will merge, and the nobles will choose a king to rule the united Goths - perhaps you, perhaps me. Or maybe there shall be two kings to rule one kingship, like it often happens - all will keep their powers, and both tribes will become stronger together. What about it?
As for the proposal of the alliance, we will have to think about it.
To: Visigoths
From: Ostrogoths
it seems we have think about each others proposals...
why not strike the midle ground?
there coudl indeed be a full Gothic kingdom- all the territory would, essentially belong to you- but for me and my nobles to keep our powers, we want a federate nation inside of its borders- a sizable one, not all of the current Ostrogothic Kingdom, but a very nized sized peace of it- we also want a fair share of autonomy in our Federate land, but over all, you would be the high king....
what is your answer, brothers of the ostrogoths?
From: Ostrogoths
it seems we have think about each others proposals...
why not strike the midle ground?
there coudl indeed be a full Gothic kingdom- all the territory would, essentially belong to you- but for me and my nobles to keep our powers, we want a federate nation inside of its borders- a sizable one, not all of the current Ostrogothic Kingdom, but a very nized sized peace of it- we also want a fair share of autonomy in our Federate land, but over all, you would be the high king....
what is your answer, brothers of the ostrogoths?
IceEye
Emperor
Xen, I must admit that this Nes looks really good and it is almost the first "first Nes" I´ve seen that include´s thought-through rules and a good historic background. Maybe I´ll join after a couple of updates 
Keep up the good work and hope this one will live long!
Keep up the good work and hope this one will live long!
das
Regeneration In Process
From: Visigoths
To: Ostrogoths
An excellent proposal - you indeed are a wise king! I take it the autonomy you require is the control over the iternal affairs within your federate nation and the right to keep your own army? I agree to your proposal.
To: Ostrogoths
An excellent proposal - you indeed are a wise king! I take it the autonomy you require is the control over the iternal affairs within your federate nation and the right to keep your own army? I agree to your proposal.
@iceeye- thank you and yes, unless there is a nation you woudl like now, its probaley best to wait until the updated list of nations arrived, as the NPC list is missing over half of them right now... but I hope you join, however, it would be prudent to warn the player cap is set at 16 players
To : Visigoths
from: Ostrogoths
yes, those are the rights needed- soon the great gothic nation will rise!
and yes, unless there is a nation you woudl like now, its probaley best to wait until the updated list of nations arrived, as the NPC list is missing over half of them right now... but I hope you join, however, it would be prudent to warn the player cap is set at 16 playersTo : Visigoths
from: Ostrogoths
yes, those are the rights needed- soon the great gothic nation will rise!
das
Regeneration In Process
How many more orders do you need to start the update?
currentlly I have 6 or 7 orders (it would help if people would PM thier orders to me from now on ) buyt when you have no orders from any nation in a geographical area (western europe) it makes you want to wait a little while. particuraley because the Romano-Frankishish war is currentl;ly the most exciteing event in the NES so far (very glad there is at least some real action from the first turn )
) buyt when you have no orders from any nation in a geographical area (western europe) it makes you want to wait a little while. particuraley because the Romano-Frankishish war is currentl;ly the most exciteing event in the NES so far (very glad there is at least some real action from the first turn )
das
Regeneration In Process
Don't worry Xen, I promise something far more exciting to come soon...
By the way, will there be technological advancement, and how will it be represented?
By the way, will there be technological advancement, and how will it be represented?
ANNOUNCMENT!
Stat Update
Religious Minorities for the major religions have been added onto front page stats- shoudl make life more interesting
Rule Addition
There will indeed be technological advancement, and depending on what it is, it could offer a bonus to one fo your stats, or just generally make things better for your existing stats (like the military)
technology will take a while to reserch, and I have not decided weather to include an education stat yet...
however, even though technology can offer great bonuses, it can, and will, eventually, spread to the peoples on your border, and eventually the people on thier border, basically ensureing that only people seperated by oceans are left out from eventually getting a technology- such a rule is due to realism- the exact amoutn fo time a tech stays in one nation will decided depending on what technology it is- soem may even never spread unless the nation who developed it teaches it, or a nation goest out of its way to develop it (example for a spreading tech- the stirrup, making cavalry more efficent, example of a non spreding tech- plumbing, incresing culture, and should plague ever break out, far reducing its effect due to good hygine)
Stat Update
Religious Minorities for the major religions have been added onto front page stats- shoudl make life more interesting
Rule Addition
There will indeed be technological advancement, and depending on what it is, it could offer a bonus to one fo your stats, or just generally make things better for your existing stats (like the military)
technology will take a while to reserch, and I have not decided weather to include an education stat yet...
however, even though technology can offer great bonuses, it can, and will, eventually, spread to the peoples on your border, and eventually the people on thier border, basically ensureing that only people seperated by oceans are left out from eventually getting a technology- such a rule is due to realism- the exact amoutn fo time a tech stays in one nation will decided depending on what technology it is- soem may even never spread unless the nation who developed it teaches it, or a nation goest out of its way to develop it (example for a spreading tech- the stirrup, making cavalry more efficent, example of a non spreding tech- plumbing, incresing culture, and should plague ever break out, far reducing its effect due to good hygine
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