Suggestions and Requests

[Leoreth]

But it doesn't matter when it was being advocated, it's about implementation. Not to mention that a centrally planned economy certainly wasn't the only possible way to implement a communist society, certainly not in the 1850s, and the economic theories to do so largely didn't exist yet, which is why Central Planning is at Macroeconomics.

 

[FIRST FIRE]

Why? I see the first adoption of Public Welfare in the German Empire with Bismarck's social reforms, and the first centrally planned economy was the early Soviet Union.

Ok,there are some reasons why I think so:
For gameplay:
1.tech timing:I exactly can get the [labor right] in the 1850s ,and [macroeconomic] in the 1920s, but only in the time when I play as prussia or other tech leader civs.Even in the 1950s,there are less civs can get [macroeconomic],which mean when you play as russia you have to research it by youself and send it to your freinds(vassals).I found which is really hard to me or ai russia about to get the tech in the 1920s.
2.civic effect :the time when player unlock the [public welfare],they usually in the second industrial revolution age,always lack of and ,even can't build natural reserve.My opnion is that the civic are much more suitable to the developed civs after the 1950s.And in the other hand,[central planing] are much more suitable to those civis needs to quickly industrial themselves.But as I say,it is always hard for them to get [macroeconomic].
For historical:
Just as what the guy say,the Marx'comunism is really early than the German empire's welfare system.And should we consider the German empire as a welfare country just samea as Canada or Scandinvia nations nowadays?Well which could be an interesting history topic.

 

[FIRST FIRE]

Sorry for my poor English

 

[Leoreth]

No worries, your English is perfectly understandable.

 

[Vectors]

Could you please encourage the AI to prioritize reconquering historic cities, I watched a collapse to core Russia invading independent Germany, Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal while still having a half dozen independent Siberian cities. They were also being quite nuke happy against independents, including on historic areas which seems weird.

 

[Tigranes]

In the late game workers should be allowed to retire in cities with some small fun effect. In the late game you often run out of tiles to improve and it feels bad just deleting unused Workers, they deserve to be treated with respect, being the soul of Civilization.

 

[Enyavar]

Settle a worker in a cottage/village and have the development advance 10 turns. Action costs 20 gold, too. Not OP, but nice.

Also, the game needs a 5th stage of cottages. "Metropolitan area" maybe, needs again the double time to develop from town. Only available in industrial age.

 

[JHLee]

Suggestion: vassals should be immune to/protected from stability penalties from foreign relations a) as there is no way for them to determine their own diplomacy and b) to tone down the frequent AI collapses.


Also about communism:
IMO communist/socialist civics comes too late in the game (Global Era). So a rapid transition from a pre-industric society to a communist/socialist state as in IRL Russia and China is near impossible. (Tech differences is too big and you get a lot of outdated civic malus)

 

[Tab911]

Not sure if this has been previously discussed but I would like to see a ship healing/resupply mechanic added. Collateral damage would be nice too for late game ships.
Ships should only be able to heal in friendly cities (or any cities for caravels). Much of the south pacific imperialism that Britain and the US was for the sake of having naval bases and allowing them to extend influence in regions that they otherwise wouldn't be able to. China is playing the same political game today with the Belt and Road Initiative to acquire naval bases in the Indian ocean.
Essentially in the mod, colonization of the south pacific doesn't do much good because it isn't resource rich and none of the potential cities have much production capability.
If ships could only heal in friendly cities, a British player would have incentive in settling the Falklands or the South Pacific in order to maintain a strong naval presence. If the US and Japan were at war, they would need to make South Pacific islands priority military targets. It would take an overwhelming naval force to make a direct assault, therefore naval bases become tactically important.
While I don't think this mechanic would be difficult to implement, I'm not sure about how well it will work with the AI.

 

[1SDANi]

While I don't think this mechanic would be difficult to implement, I'm not sure about how well it will work with the AI.

Shouldn't be too complicated. Update the AI to retreat to friendly cities when the need to heal. Grant extra importance to the attack of cities owned by enemy Civs proportional to their proximity to your cities and strength of their owner's navy.

 

[TJDowling]

Could we add some spawning Native or at least Barbarian units in Australia... at least Queensland. Any Australian Aborigine warrior models out there on the forum? Australia being this empty country with no resistance to colonization is a bit ahistorical. As Britain, I literally just send a settler undefended to Australia and first thing I do is build a defending unit only to prevent unhappiness, then I build two settlers and boom Australia colonization goal fulfilled. While we're at it lets get a couple Maori warriors in New Zealand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_frontier_wars

EDIT: Did my best to find an Australian unit, could only find a boomerang unit for Civ 3... sad. That said, spear throwing was common amongst Aborigine warriors so perhaps the skirmisher or similar unit could be used. Would be cool to have a boomerang or woomera unit though

 

[1SDANi]

Could we add some spawning Native or at least Barbarian units in Australia... at least Queensland. Any Australian Aborigine warrior models out there on the forum? Australia being this empty country with no resistance to colonization is a bit ahistorical. As Britain, I literally just send a settler undefended to Australia and first thing I do is build a defending unit only to prevent unhappiness, then I build two settlers and boom Australia colonization goal fulfilled. While we're at it lets get a couple Maori warriors in New Zealand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_frontier_wars

EDIT: Did my best to find an Australian unit, could only find a boomerang unit for Civ 3... sad. That said, spear throwing was common amongst Aborigine warriors so perhaps the skirmisher or similar unit could be used. Would be cool to have a boomerang or woomera unit though

Rabbits and Emus

 

[TJDowling]

Rabbits and Emus

Biggest threat to English settlers, rabbits and emus.... oof.

 

[1SDANi]

Biggest threat to English settlers, rabbits and emus.... oof.

oof because of the implicit disregard of aboriginal australians, or because emus are evil and the most powerful empire on the planet?

 

[TJDowling]

oof because of the implicit disregard of aboriginal australians, or because emus are evil and the most powerful empire on the planet?

Probably both.

 

[1SDANi]

IMO communist/socialist civics comes too late in the game (Global Era). So a rapid transition from a pre-industric society to a communist/socialist state as in IRL Russia and China is near impossible. (Tech differences is too big and you get a lot of outdated civic malus)

Perhaps Civics could have 2 unlock techs: 1 that unlocks it for the player and 1 that unlocks it for the world.

 

[Enyavar]

Biggest threat to English settlers, rabbits and emus.... oof.

I encountered a lion when I landed my settlers recently. Had to reload and wait a few turns until the garrison arrived. I think crocodiles would represent Australia's dangerous fauna better. They could also be around in South America. Always sticking to rivers, though.

In Australia, there could also be a few native warriors on the walkabout, but yeah, nothing serious. And the Polynesian civ could probably be auto-expanded at some late point in the game to cover at least New Zealand and Hawaii. Also, when the Polynesians get destroyed, they need to be natives, not Independents.

 

[StarDoor]

It would be cool if using a Settler to rebuild a city renamed the city according to the civilization's settler map (if it has a name for the tile). For example, if the English rebuild Canton, it should become Hong Kong, or if they rebuild Delhi, it should become New Delhi.

 

[SBlack]

I have to ask is anyone bothered by the vassal names.
My guess is that vassals in game represent "formally" independent states (late Ptolemaic Egypt to Rome, some Korean Kingdoms to China or Vichy France to Nazi Germany), but problem is flavour names often depict them as if these vassals are regional units of their master.
Names like Autonomous Province of France, Austrian raion or Byzantine protectorate during the middle ages, really break immersion.
I suggest that vassal names should stay same as they were before conquest or vassal agreement and change with their civic's, exception being situations where they would fit historical context ( Italian Socialist Republic as Totalitarian Italian Vassal, Duchy of Warsaw as vassal Polish Kingdom controlling one to two cities, Latin Empire as Catholic Byzantium vassal to Catholic state etc.).
Also if conquered capital that during the unrest is returned to original civilization, could be again reestablished as capital would be nice.

 

[Publicola]

I definitely think it should reward discovery most of all. I always wanted to have more stuff that rewards you for doing stuff on the map like circumnavigation and this definitely is it.

I saw this snippet from the 'Natural Wonders' thread, and it made me think: what other major exploration goals would be possible in the game? These seem interesting:

• Arrival in New Zealand by the Polynesians
• Crossing the Rocky Mountains? (a la Lewis & Clark)
• Exploration of the North Pole
• Exploration of the South Pole

One thing I would love to see in the game, is an ancient-era 'circumnavigation of Africa' goal. The Phoenicians managed it (on an expedition funded by Egypt) though it took them three years to manage it, planting temporary settlements each spring to grow and harvest enough grain to keep sailing. Perhaps it could be limited to 'circumnavigate Africa in a galley', to limit the prize to the proper era and units. I don't know how this would work with the 'Cape' feature that's meant to keep galleys out, but perhaps we could alter the 'Cape' effects so that rather than being outright 'impassible', it would be severely damaging to galleys and other pre-modern ships (and fatal to any units loaded onto a galley, so the galley can cross the cape, but preventing any settlers or scouts).

Even if it's not limited to galleys, it could still be a worthwhile goal, given how important Vasco da Gama was for the development of the Portuguese empire. Given that Phoenicia and Portugal were both commercial empires, perhaps this 'circumnavigation of Africa' could provide a reward of "+1 trade route in your capital"?