Take that, cat lovers.

Piss is full of nitrogen, a fertilizer, for the record. Poop is a fertilizer and no dog (or two or three - but I'm not talking about packs of huskies) creates enough to stink. (Though I still pick mine up so no one steps on it)

As for laughing at people who carry bags of poop on walks - ok I guess they should just leave it on your yard instead of scooping it. I also just dump it in the nearest trash can, I don't carry it very far.
 
cardgame said:
Yup, backing up everything VRWC just said :)

Cat litter may do a good job covering up the smell but it's still there and inside your house :\
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Oh yeah, totally forgot how stinky cat houses usually are. They reek.
 
VRWCAgent said:
Hey, I am very pro cat, but I don't get how having to scoop crap and pee deposits (scoopable litter here) is lower maintenance than a dog! Doggie goes outside, poos and pees in the ditches and it's a done deal.
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Okay, picture the following situation: Lightning storm at 10 P.M., rain and hail beating down, not to mention the howling wind and what sounds like one of the trees in your front yard falling. You're dog starts to whine; she HAS to go. Now.

Which of the following would you rather do:

A. Go outside with the dog and come back soaked to the bone.
B. Try to wait just a liiiiiittle longer, risking an accident.
C. Scoop a small clump out of a box.

I really like dogs. For seven of the first ten years of my life, there was a dog in the house - two dogs in total. Both were loving, loyal, and everything I could ever want in a pet. But you cannot deny that cats have their own advantages.
 
Or letting the dog out in -40C (same as -40F)? I've seen my dog try to hold all four paws off the ground simultaneously in that weather.
 
Guys, guys (and lady!), don't get me wrong here. Before Suki, I was strictly a cat guy for two decades. I still love my cats as well as acknowledge them as our supreme rulers.

Btw, both situations above? I'd let her out in the garage and deal with cleanup. Plus, while we get some decently cold temps, it's never reached -40 here in my lifetime. Yes, btw, -40C is the same as -40F.
 
It's only dipped below zero F twice that I can remember :)
 
VRWCAgent said:
Guys, guys (and lady!), don't get me wrong here. Before Suki, I was strictly a cat guy for two decades. I still love my cats as well as acknowledge them as our supreme rulers.

Btw, both situations above? I'd let her out in the garage and deal with cleanup. Plus, while we get some decently cold temps, it's never reached -40 here in my lifetime. Yes, btw, -40C is the same as -40F.
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You've never experienced -40C/F? :confused:
 
rugbyLEAGUEfan said:
What's true love if it isn't reciprocated? The depth of the relationship between man and cat can't be compared to that of a man and his dog.

That doesn't mean cats are not amazing creatures worthy of admiration and our companionship, but when it comes to love the dog stands alone in this area.
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What a loaf of ballcocks :)
 
I mean, it depends on your lifestyle, I'm lazy and I don't go outside apart from have to go to work or do errands. When I come home, I don't want to go back outside, instead, I just pet my cat. :D After the cat cuddles, I let it go outside, where it poops in my neighbours' gardens. Life is grand with a cat on your lap.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
It just pains me to see you mistake mindless obedience for love :D
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Should I ever pull a super model, I really doubt that any expression of my love will rise above mindless obedience. But I digress.....

You are assuming a dogs obedience to be mindless, but it's not. Dogs are mischievous and constantly getting into trouble, and they know it. Their obedience is not mindless but conscious, a means of making amends for eating your pizza while you were in the bathroom.

"Yes, I know I dug up the garden to the point it looks likes Ypres in 1917, but look, I'll prove my love by leaving the garden as demanded and instead licking my nuts in the hall. I told you I love you"
 
Valka D'Ur said:
:rolleyes:

If you're worried about natural wildlife, then don't let them out. Problem solved.
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I don't think I've ever met a cat owner who imprisons their cat inside all the time (though I guess some apartment-dwellers might). This may be a purely local thing, but here, domestic cats roam (and kill things). Particularly at night, when most people would put their animals outside. What you're essentially saying is that cats are fine so long as no-one lets them out of their house ever. Sure, I can agree to that. But then that's not what actual cat owners do.
 
Antilogic said:
Maine Coon cats tend to act more dog-like; they are far more sociable, will play fetch, etc. They are awesome.
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Maine Coons are pretty awesome but the cat I had was probably a bastard mix between a mountain cat from the Andean mountains and a domestic cat.

I've seen several of these mountain cats just brooding around (as my house was overlooking a cliff) and they are really really big. My cat was smaller but still pretty big. He retained an awesome tiger-like black-grey striping, and had massive hind legs. Unlike the Maine Coon, he was also very lean and athletic.

Loved that cat. I swear it was also smarter than all other cats I've had. I taught it commands and tricks like I would a dog, I could fetch with him and if I called his name he'd come running. He'd also talk to you like a dog does.
 
Camikaze said:
I don't think I've ever met a cat owner who imprisons their cat inside all the time (though I guess some apartment-dwellers might). This may be a purely local thing, but here, domestic cats roam (and kill things). Particularly at night, when most people would put their animals outside. What you're essentially saying is that cats are fine so long as no-one lets them out of their house ever. Sure, I can agree to that. But then that's not what actual cat owners do.
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Then I must be imaginary. Or maybe I've just hallucinated all the cats I've had since 1977. :huh:

I know it's a cat's nature to hunt and want to be outside. Just because I don't let my cats out of the apartment, that doesn't mean they don't want to go out.

But PlutonianEmpire has a point about vermin. Back in the '90s, our City Council In Its Divine Stupidity decided they would save money by not mowing the grass along the boulevards and ditches. The result: Instant explosion of the mouse population. My cats were kept busy, both indoors and out, catching and killing those disgusting little things - even Lightning, who thought mice were icky and revolting, helped by gently carrying a mouse out from behind the couch for her son Tomtat to deal with. My neighbor, who had a dog, literally begged me to rent her a couple of my cats to deal with the mice. Because I valued my cats' lives, I told her sorry, but no.
 
rugbyLEAGUEfan said:
You are assuming a dogs obedience to be mindless, but it's not. Dogs are mischievous and constantly getting into trouble, and they know it. Their obedience is not mindless but conscious, a means of making amends for eating your pizza while you were in the bathroom.

"Yes, I know I dug up the garden to the point it looks likes Ypres in 1917, but look, I'll prove my love by leaving the garden as demanded and instead licking my nuts in the hall. I told you I love you"
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Love is pay-back. Very poetic :)

Anyway, when it comes to love the dog stands with a whole lot of other happy species in the area you mentioned. Nothing special about dogs. It's not as if they're Americans.
Camikaze said:
I don't think I've ever met a cat owner who imprisons their cat inside all the time (though I guess some apartment-dwellers might). This may be a purely local thing, but here, domestic cats roam (and kill things). Particularly at night, when most people would put their animals outside. What you're essentially saying is that cats are fine so long as no-one lets them out of their house ever. Sure, I can agree to that. But then that's not what actual cat owners do.
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How does this distinguish cats from other animals? Dogs also kill things. The little yapper my girfriends parents have will hunt, dig out and kill rabbits. And what do you recon is that red-meaty substance in their food?

And the cats may have the image to be ruthless hunters, but a horizon program a couple of weeks ago showed that the domestication of cats means that most cats get their food variety from raiding other cat's food trays. Following 50 cats for a week resulted in 15 dead animals found. that is 1 kill every 3 weeks.
 
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